jacarter220 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 3 hours ago, adb280z said: Why don't you count the 1-7 games? "In all the 30 games that he has won in his career, he is 30-0! The man is a genius!!" 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted September 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2020 Why is this thread about a potential future HC being hijacked, exactly? 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 8 hours ago, SAR I said: Forget the offensive genius stuff. That’s a media creation. SAR I SAR 1 It is not a media creation but a direct quote from you of him being maybe an offensive genius to now being a animal of a head coach with one of his greatest achievements is having Manish Mehta a newspaper reporter fired. That to me does not make a animal of a head coach. To be fair he had a huge role in getting macCagnan fired which is a really good thing but if Manish being fired is what you are hanging your hat on as his one of his accomplishments and the regression of Sam Darnold is taking a back seat then in my opinion the standards you set as an animal of a head coach are far too low. I could care less about what a reporter says want to see improvement in the team and especially the QB which is the main reason Gase was hired as of now to me during his reign has. Been an abject failure. Please don’t say injuries as I am talking about simple things such as throwing ball away as you are under pressure running towards sideline and don’t throw over late over the middle off your back foot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, CSNY said: Please don’t say injuries as I am talking about simple things such as throwing ball away as you are under pressure running towards sideline and don’t throw over late over the middle off your back foot Ah, I see, so Sam Darnold made it from Madden 2002 to Pee Wee to Pop Warner to Mission Viejo Middle school to San Clemente High School to USC as a quarterback and hired Jordan Palmer as his personal quarterback coach and never learned about throwing the ball away or throwing over the middle? Wow. You're right, he really needs Adam Gase for these pearls of wisdom. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, SAR I said: Ah, I see, so Sam Darnold made it from Madden 2002 to Pee Wee to Pop Warner to Mission Viejo Middle school to San Clemente High School to USC as a quarterback and hired Jordan Palmer as his personal quarterback coach and never learned about throwing the ball away or throwing over the middle? Wow. You're right, he really needs Adam Gase for these pearls of wisdom. SAR I If it has to be reinforced at this level that is the exactly the Job description of the head coach of a professional football team ( especially one that has the the moniker of maybe being a genius offensive football ) to correct any flaws that he had coming out of college to make him achieve his potential if being a franchise QB Simply put is they gave to “ Coach em Up “ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 On 9/25/2020 at 11:17 AM, Barry McCockinner said: Most Jets fans hated the Adam Gase hire from the start, but somehow it’s turned out worse than expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 On 9/25/2020 at 11:17 AM, Barry McCockinner said: But don’t get it twisted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 9 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Why is this thread about a potential future HC being hijacked, exactly? Because it can be!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 21 hours ago, SAR I said: I never said he was an offensive genius. I said I really don't care if he's an OC anymore because he's proven to me that he's a very good HC and that's more important. What I also said is that a) after the 6-2 finish he showed me that he is a good leader and improviser, b) he's a hard-ass who doesn't take crap from anyone, c) he rightfully got Maccagnan fired which led to getting Douglas, d) he hired Williams who is a great DC, and e) he survived the worst unfair onslaught of media hate in NY history with his coaches and players supporting him. Gase doesn't deserve to get fired, and the jury is still out on his offensive abilities because of the unprecedented injuries we've faced the last two years. That's all I'm saying. Not rocket science. It's dumb Eeyore Mets fans who whine about everything that are making too much noise for their tiny minority. SAR I If he's not the OC and a good HC, then as a good HC he should see that this offence is horrible and fire immediately Loggains, and anyone else associated with this mess. Problem is, it's his offence, and he's the one calling the plays. So the only way if I'm JD or CJ that I allow this to continue is to force him to stop calling plays, and be the HC. Find someone out there that has some innovation calling plays and hire that dude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Lurker89 said: Because it can be!!! Lol. My apologies. Will now cease and desist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, 68JET11 said: If he's not the OC and a good HC, then as a good HC he should see that this offence is horrible and fire immediately Loggains, and anyone else associated with this mess. Problem is, it's his offence, and he's the one calling the plays. So the only way if I'm JD or CJ that I allow this to continue is to force him to stop calling plays, and be the HC. Find someone out there that has some innovation calling plays and hire that dude. As it stands now, we know what the Jets problem on Offense is- a paper-thin roster (Maccagnan, Douglas), and a pile of injuries (God, Leprechaun) neither of which is the fault of the coaching staff. So there's no need to fire anyone because it won't accomplish anything. In Week 5 when we have our WR's and OL back, then we can decide if the coaching staff can do their jobs. Right now, there's no way to know. On Defense, different story, the type of chunk plays Gregg Williams' defense is giving up is alarming considering the low amount of injuries and the amount of draft and FA capital we've spent on that side of the ball. If fans need someone to hate on right now, Gregg Williams is the target, not anyone on O. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, SAR I said: On Defense, different story, the type of chunk plays Gregg Williams' defense is giving up is alarming considering the low amount of injuries and the amount of draft and FA capital we've spent on that side of the ball. If fans need someone to hate on right now, Gregg Williams is the target, not anyone on O. The Jets are 30th in money allocated to defense in the NFL. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/defense/ Most of the draft capital you reference is no longer in the league or on the Jets. Who exactly is Gregg Williams working with? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, CSNY said: Lol. My apologies. Will now cease and desist This ain't my thread Brotha, hijack away. Redirect this B---- To CUBA OR ELSE!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Jets cannot afford to miss on the next HC. No chances will be taken. They need to hire someone who has been a HC and groomed a QB. Jason Garret is exactly what the doctor ordered for what ails the Jets. He will bring stability and be HC of the whole team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 On 9/26/2020 at 10:50 AM, SAR I said: Why don't you recognize the league-high injuries? We had 18 players on IR last year and currently have 14 on IR or PUP, make that 15 with opt-outs, and it's Week 2. SAR I Doesn't Gase led teams tend to always be injured? Maybe that has something to do with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I still want to convince Bill Cowher to return to coaching for our Jets. He could become what Bill Parcells was for our 1997 Jets following our 1996 1-16 disaster. And bring respect back to NY Jets front office. Trevor Lawrence + Bill Cowher + 4 1st round picks over the next two drafts = back on the map. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Jets fans are obsessed with Titans and Tannehill only cos of the Gase connection... it wouldnt be happening otherwise. Derrick Henry was 2ndin DYAR the year before-2018. Titans went 9-7 behind Mariota and Gabbert Tanny had shown some decent QBing during his time Miami... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, Losmeister said: Jets fans are obsessed with Titans and Tannehill only cos of the Gase connection... it wouldnt be happening otherwise. Derrick Henry was 2ndin DYAR the year before-2018. Titans went 9-7 behind Mariota and Gabbert Tanny had shown some decent QBing during his time Miami... Losmeister Some Jets fans maybe obsessed for the reason you stated but I like them for the type of football that they play. A Ball control running game and strong D. Many here disagree as they say the game has changed. If you can control the game with the run you keep the ball out of the other teams hands they can’t score. Have a dominant D that gets you the ball back quickly you just can continue to wear the opposing teams D out then by the fourth quarter you have imposed your will on them and run the ball some more. that will always be a winning formula in the NFL in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, CSNY said: Losmeister Some Jets fans maybe obsessed for the reason you stated but I like them for the type of football that they play. A Ball control running game and strong D. Many here disagree as they say the game has changed. If you can control the game with the run you keep the ball out of the other teams hands they can’t score. Have a dominant D that gets you the ball back quickly you just can continue to wear the opposing teams D out then by the fourth quarter you have imposed your will on them and run the ball some more. that will always be a winning formula in the NFL in my opinion. Yup. And we have exactly ZERO parts of that formula... so itneeds to be from the ground up,rebuilt. No good running game. No good D. So, to be constantly making comparison to what the Titans O is doing is like saying, just floor it coming out ofturn three and get up to 120 mph on teh straightaway ...whenyour driving a 66 VW Bus.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 On 9/26/2020 at 7:10 AM, NamathToCaster said: Get me Jeff Fisher. Laugh if you want, but he could not be any worse than Gase. Ban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 This dude is going to get a lot more credit than he deserves "salvaging" a Ryan Tannehill that was already good. I'd prefer someone who builds a competitive team with garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 no thanks. people who go to this school are ******* dickheads High school: Georgetown Preparatory School Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 no god please no Smith's father is FedEx founder Frederick W. Smith. He and his wife, Allison, reside in Nashville with their three children, Tanner, Sophie, and William.[8][9] He has eight siblings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, southtown24th said: no thanks. people who go to this school are ******* dickheads High school: Georgetown Preparatory School Yes. If there is one thing that great coaches, like Bill Belichick, Bill Parcells, Sean Payton, Buddy Ryan have in common, it is that they aren't ******* dickheads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said: Yes. If there is one thing that great coaches, like Bill Belichick, Bill Parcells, Sean Payton, Buddy Ryan have in common, it is that they aren't ******* dickheads. Georgetown Prep: Home of the Mega Dickhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, southtown24th said: Georgetown Prep: Home of the Mega Dickhead What has Brian Cashman ever done to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackExchangeNYJ Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I'd say it is more likely Douglas goes with someone with whom he has experience. I'd say a favorite could be Greg Roman, who is looking at being a potential HC candidate again. He worked with Douglas for a couple years in Baltimore, and he is now the OC there, where Douglas still has some connections. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Losmeister said: Yup. And we have exactly ZERO parts of that formula... so itneeds to be from the ground up,rebuilt. No good running game. No good D. So, to be constantly making comparison to what the Titans O is doing is like saying, just floor it coming out ofturn three and get up to 120 mph on teh straightaway ...whenyour driving a 66 VW Bus.... Not comparing just am hoping that JD builds this team in the same mold as Walt Michaels Bill Parcells Rex Ryan and now the Titans. Good hard nosed tough teams that can dominate through strong Defense and dominant running game as a strong running game always travels well and is good in the cold and inclement weather 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Darnold would be fantastic in Tennessee’s offense. I’d support this move - the Titans play my favorite style of offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 18 minutes ago, BigRy56 said: Darnold would be fantastic in Tennessee’s offense. I’d support this move - the Titans play my favorite style of offense Agreed. Would love to see Darnold in Ten or Pitt offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 17 hours ago, jgb said: I'd prefer someone who builds a competitive team with garbage. Such as? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 9/25/2020 at 11:17 AM, Barry McCockinner said: Interesting and in depth take on a potential Gase replacement. https://jetsxfactor.com/2020/09/25/why-arthur-smith-is-the-perfect-head-coach-candidate-for-the-new-york-jets-in-2021 I don't know who I want as the next head coach but I'm willing to listen and educate myself on any potential candidates. So far, this article is the most convincing case I've seen for Gase's replacement. I know Bieniemy is the hottest name around, but I'm not completely sold on him. As I detailed in the MNF thread, I've loved Andy Reid and followed him since his days in Philly, and this iteration of the Chiefs offense has the same feel as it did when when Bieniemy was just the RB coach there. The reason is because the offense is still 95% Andy. Bieniemy gets credit for some of the fun play designs that he's brought to the offense, but then I'd imagine that's easy to do when you've got an all-time talent at QB with all pro TE, WR, and solid OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 This is good stuff. This is good coaching. Period. He knew the Texans linebackers would key on this and used creativity to put his players in a position to succeed. The more I see, the more I like. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMo Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 HC: Smith OC: Callahan DC: Wade Phillips thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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