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Is this the worst roster in the NFL in the last decade?

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I can’t remember a team being this bad all across the board. We’re at ground zero folks. I don’t think one person starts on another team. 
 

No idea how Douglas will do it. 

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1 minute ago, Samtorobby47 said:

I can’t remember a team being this bad all across the board. We’re at ground zero folks. I don’t think one person starts on another team. 
 

No idea how Douglas will do it. 

Rebuilding a roster takes years, not one offseason. 

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2 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said:

I can’t remember a team being this bad all across the board. We’re at ground zero folks. I don’t think one person starts on another team. 
 

No idea how Douglas will do it. 

I think the difference between this team and 1996 is that the 1996 team actually had a decent amount of talent on the team. This team does not have any talent. So no matter who the HC is, and I'm not excusing Gase, this roster CANNOT win. 

In regards to Douglas, we can hope this year's draft turns out to be good and he has a wonderful starting line? Assuming Gase gets fired, he'll be able to select his own HC and he'll have close to 100 million in cap space.

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Right now everyone is injured. It’s totally unprecedented. 
 

Projected starters still playing on offense:

Darnold, Herndon, Lewis, GVR, McGovern (playing hurt).

Week 5 the Jets will likely have Perriman, Mims, Crowder, and Bell back. Perhaps they will look like an NFL team again. 

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We better pray  that a number of these guys douglas picked year one turn out good.  Becton looks like the real deal. 

Part of the frustration ...moreso than normal is we aren't even seeing promising guys that were drafted this year.

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11 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said:

I can’t remember a team being this bad all across the board. We’re at ground zero folks. I don’t think one person starts on another team. 
 

No idea how Douglas will do it. 

Becton,  Mann

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I do think douglas overestimated some of the talent on this team otherwise he would have drafted a TE, WR, CB instead of a backup QB and punter.

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Yes.  And the persons responsible have to go.  If Woody won't sell the team or permit a receiver to be appointed, the least he could do is fire his brother.  One of the great incompetents of our time.

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4 minutes ago, choon328 said:

Rebuilding a roster takes years, not one offseason. 

Eh, that's not true anymore.

Dolphins are 2 years in and looking promising. Infused a ton of talent into that team.

Bills made the playoffs, tore down the roster went 6-10 then were back in the playoffs the next year. 

Arizona is in year 2 and is 2-1 with a team that looks on the upswing. 

There's no such thing as a "years" long rebuild. In year 2, you're either ascending and competing for the playoffs or your rebuild failed. Year 3, you're making the playoffs or your rebuild failed.

Jets are in year 1 the tear down year. Next year they should be competing. Now their timeline is screwed up because usually you have a new QB on your tear down year and usually a new coach that sets you up for year 2. 

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2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

We better pray  that a number of these guys douglas picked year one turn out good.  Becton looks like the real deal. 

Part of the frustration ...moreso than normal is we aren't even seeing promising guys that were drafted this year.

One thing that concerns me is that when the draft picks currently on IR return is will Gase play them and use them. He didn’t use Perrine until late in the game as he was giving Gore all the carries. Perrine should be the starter for rest of the year to see what he has 

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Just now, Beerfish said:

I do think douglas overestimated some of the talent on this team otherwise he would have drafted a TE, WR, CB instead of a backup QB and punter.

Half the team is injured. Having Bell, Perriman, Crowder, Mims, Mosley(opted out) on the field would probably make a significant difference. This year is just Murphy's Law. I have never seen anything like it. 

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Just now, CSNY said:

One thing that concerns me is that when the draft picks currently on IR return is will Gase play them and use them. He didn’t use Perrine until late in the game as he was giving Gore all the carries. Perrine should be the starter for rest of the year to see what he has 

This should be the nail in the Gase coffin. It's crystal clear that even with the expanded playoffs, the Jets are nowhere near the playoffs. So why give Old Man Gore so many carries and Ballage any carries? What's wrong with seeing if Perine has what it takes? Give Perine the bellcow role and let Gore come in and spell Perine when he needs a breather?

Oh wait, I forgot. Gase is as stubbon as a mule when it comes to "his guys".

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5 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

Eh, that's not true anymore.

Dolphins are 2 years in and looking promising. Infused a ton of talent into that team.

Bills made the playoffs, tore down the roster went 6-10 then were back in the playoffs the next year. 

Arizona is in year 2 and is 2-1 with a team that looks on the upswing. 

There's no such thing as a "years" long rebuild. In year 2, you're either ascending and competing for the playoffs or your rebuild failed. Year 3, you're making the playoffs or your rebuild failed.

Jets are in year 1 the tear down year. Next year they should be competing. Now their timeline is screwed up because usually you have a new QB on your tear down year and usually a new coach that sets you up for year 2. 

With a good amount of draft picks including 4 1st rounders the next 2 years, and the ability to spend money in a flat cap era I think this team is going to look a lot different in 2 years. This year will be a disaster but if we get first overall it may be worth the pain. 

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12 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

I do think douglas overestimated some of the talent on this team otherwise he would have drafted a TE, WR, CB instead of a backup QB and punter.

Agreed

I think Douglas has a plan. I don't think he's going to handout big free agent contracts until he feels he has a core of young guys who he can build around. Becton looks like he's one of those pieces.

The problem with that strategy though is that eventually the season starts and you're playing with a bunch of guys who just aren't all that good. And it's a long season. There's literally nobody on defense whose anything other than a JAG right now. There's nobody who opposing offensive coordinators are probably all that worried about. 

The best thing we can hope for is that Mims, Perrine, and Zuniga get on the field at some point and play well. 

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32 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said:

I can’t remember a team being this bad all across the board. We’re at ground zero folks. I don’t think one person starts on another team. 
 

No idea how Douglas will do it. 

Douaglass made it the worst...it was clearly a calculated decision 

the question is if he knows what he is doing. Fans won’t deal with this for to long 

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25 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

Eh, that's not true anymore.

Dolphins are 2 years in and looking promising. Infused a ton of talent into that team.

Bills made the playoffs, tore down the roster went 6-10 then were back in the playoffs the next year. 

Arizona is in year 2 and is 2-1 with a team that looks on the upswing. 

There's no such thing as a "years" long rebuild. In year 2, you're either ascending and competing for the playoffs or your rebuild failed. Year 3, you're making the playoffs or your rebuild failed.

Jets are in year 1 the tear down year. Next year they should be competing. Now their timeline is screwed up because usually you have a new QB on your tear down year and usually a new coach that sets you up for year 2. 

I'm assuming you don't know what "years" means. It means more than 1.

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6 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Douaglass made it the worst...it was clearly a calculated decision 

the question is if he knows what he is doing. Fans won’t deal with this for to long 

When you're rebuilding you tend to get worse first. Especially when you're QB is playing like a bottom 5 QB. The problem is a bunch of you dopes thought the Jets were going to be good this year. That was never the plan. 

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25 minutes ago, Aussie Jet said:

 

The Griffin contract was so obviously a god damn trap. Guy had done absolutely nothing in his career. Same with Perriman. Rewarding guys for form that is clearly an outlier.

 

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Feel like some of those Bryce Petty squads could give this team a run for the money.  Like the game where we discovered he couldn’t play in the rain and didn’t know what a snap count was...  Then Hack, the backup came in!

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4 minutes ago, choon328 said:

When you're rebuilding you tend to get worse first. Especially when you're QB is playing like a bottom 5 QB. The problem is a bunch of you dopes thought the Jets were going to be good this year. That was never the plan. 

No no....this team isn’t bad, it’s a disaster. The fans and media will turn on any plan quick that is this bad 

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Next year a healthy Moseley makes the D a lot better. A number 1 WR in free agency,  2 first round picks to get an edge rusher in the draft, and the continuing improvement of the O line and we could start to compete. The starting lineup we have now is practice squad material so this season is lost. Hopefully that will precipitate firing Gase and Douglas picking the next coach. 

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2 minutes ago, Hael said:

Feel like some of those Bryce Petty squads could give this team a run for the money.  Like the game where we discovered he couldn’t play in the rain and didn’t know what a snap count was...  Then Hack, the backup came in!

Hack never took a regular season snap anywhere. 

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29 minutes ago, Aussie Jet said:

 

This is just not accurate.  He gave Griffin $4.3 minion guaranteed.  He can be cut after the season.  Daniel Brown is making $800,000 on a 1 year deal. Perriman is making $6,000,000 on a 1 year deal.  I'm not a mathematician but that's about $11 million on basically 1 year deals. 

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6 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

The Griffin contract was so obviously a god damn trap. Guy had done absolutely nothing in his career. Same with Perriman. Rewarding guys for form that is clearly an outlier.

 

Griffin got hurt after the new contract.  He played really well last year and earned what ammounts to a 1 year extension. They gave Perriman WR 3 money. 

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And yes it may be the worst roster ever put together for a season.

Even before the injury crisis I was laughing at how we had to rely on all the rookies performing and all of our long shot free agents working out. Becton has actually been better than anyone could have expected and it's still a total sh*t show. All of the camp reports were pretty bad and the writing was on the wall when the starters couldn't do a thing against the backups. 

Losing Adams and Mosley was a killer for the defence - Not just on the field. They could have carried the unit to competence. As it is there's just nothing and again we're left hoping that Quinnen randomly becomes a superstar he showed no signs of being. You just know when they lost those two guys within the space of two weeks everyone on that defence would have been demoralised. Gregg Williams can talk all the sh*t he wants, it's a group desperately short of talent. 

Maccagnan has done all the long term damage but Douglas hasn't made more than one or two moves you can definitively say are good. He better have known this was going to be the on field product this season because if he genuinely thought this shower could compete then we've hired a god damn maniac.

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I have never seen a Jets team this bad from top to bottom, on the field, in the coaches room, and in upper management, all at the same time in my entire rooting life, which started at Shea Stadium in the mid 70's.  The ineptitude of this franchise is truly stunning and it really makes even the most die hard fan question their loyalty.  We deserve way better than this.

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3 minutes ago, choon328 said:

This is just not accurate.  He gave Griffin $4.3 minion guaranteed.  He can be cut after the season.  Daniel Brown is making $800,000 on a 1 year deal. Perriman is making $6,000,000 on a 1 year deal.  I'm not a mathematician but that's about $11 million on basically 1 year deals. 

Even with adjusted math, that's still an overspend. 

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Honestly?  No.  I think Cincinnati and the Giants are worse.

That said, those teams are coached much better than us on both sides of the ball.

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