Jetsfan80 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 hours ago, maury77 said: As far as Quinnen, I’m not going to call him a bust because he didn’t have a monster game against Nelson, who is arguably the best guard in the league right now. How about the other 11-12 games in his career (out of 16) where he has been invisible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Scoop24 said: I used to show what his entire day looked like . Just because it doesn't help ur argument doesn't mean it ain't true. You can literally type his name on twitter search see all the bills fans trashing him. He wasn't good for them in camp and he wasn't good in his 1 start. He's just keeping the seat warm for Jon Feliciano until he gets back from IR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: How about the other 11-12 games in his career (out of 16) where he has been invisible? Yes, most of which were during his rookie season. Players can improve after their rookie seasons. This season, Williams was decent week 1 (had a TFL) and dominant in week 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, maury77 said: Yes, most of which were during his rookie season. Players can improve after their rookie seasons. This season, Williams was decent week 1 (had a TFL) and dominant in week 2. He hasn't improved and he isn't anything we drafted him to be. Not his fault he went # 3 overall, but it IS his fault that he tends to show minimal effort out there. He also talked a big game before the season, saying he'd be "unstoppable". Then went out and got schooled by the Jets' 2nd team Offensive Line in practice. Oh, and 1 TFL qualifies as "decent" for a supposed pass-rushing DT now? lol. Bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: He hasn't improved and he isn't anything we drafted him to be. Not his fault he went # 3 overall, but it IS his fault that he tends to show minimal effort out there. He also talked a big game before the season, saying he'd be "unstoppable". Then went out and got schooled by the Jets' 2nd team Offensive Line in practice. Oh, and 1 TFL qualifies as "decent" for a supposed pass-rushing DT now? lol. Bust. Through 3 games, he is pacing for 69 tackles, 16 TFL, and 10 sacks. These numbers would all beat what he did last year. His PFF grade is also up from last year. These are facts. But you have a subjective opinion that he is lazy despite numerous reports that he got into great shape this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 hours ago, choon328 said: I don't have time to teach you about schemes but the Jets are running a wide split zone scheme. Shell, Osemele and Winters are a better fit for man blocking scheme. That is why they struggled here and are starting elsewhere in schemes the fit into. It's really not that hard to figure that out. Beachum isn't here bc they wanted to get younger on the offensive line. Preach... Scheme and coaching matters... I'm not an expert to even know if what you say is 100 percent true but I do know that gase doesn't use bell, darnold, or any other players we have to the best of thier abilities. Hell herdon is a ******* blocker in our schemes. This is the real problem Andi have to think that Joe d sees it for what it is. Gase will run up the guy 27 time to get one 4 yard run no matter what because he knows best and players need to execute. Make me throw up with his terrible deductions. Meanwhile G williams use what little he has as best he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 hours ago, JiF said: Ah man, sounds like I'm missing out on an education, I had no idea that there were different blocking schemes and that players are only capable of doing 1 thing! Daboll runs a verse scheme and combo of gap, power and wide zone. Winters Andy Reid runs a zone blocking scheme. Osemele Kingsburry runs a zone blocking scheme. Beachum The only example that rings true is Shell and hey guess what, we swapped RT's. But yo, I get that you dont have time to educate me. Haha damn jif knows what he talking about and laid it down . Nice. I wish I knew more of this scheme stuff.. or at least my coach did 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, maury77 said: Through 3 games, he is pacing for 69 tackles, 16 TFL, and 10 sacks. These numbers would all beat what he did last year. His PFF grade is also up from last year. These are facts. But you have a subjective opinion that he is lazy despite numerous reports that he got into great shape this season. This reads like a defense of Leonard Williams. "On pace for" thru 3 weeks and relying on PFF stats to say he might be good. I say he's lazy because he looks lazy whenever you watch him play. He gives up on plays entirely too quickly. Just because he's no longer fat doesn't mean he didn't give up on the laziness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 44 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: How about the other 11-12 games in his career (out of 16) where he has been invisible? To color it you can say the opposing guards had monster games against QW. But QW’s been looking at the film ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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