Popular Post choon328 Posted October 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2020 Darnold is worse than you think though. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UntouchableCrew Posted October 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2020 A lot easier to get separation when the CB is guarding the sticks and you're running a six yard route on 3rd and 9. 10 1 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, UntouchableCrew said: A lot easier to get separation when the CB is guarding the sticks and you're running a six yard route on 3rd and 9. But Darnold is still missing a lot of those WRs anyways. 6 yards and a chance at some YAC on 3rd & 9 is better than an incompletion or interception. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 When your relying on Cynthia Freulnd to support your case you're already lost. Stats Stats Stats can be twisted any which way you want to argue any situation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted October 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, 56mehl56 said: When your relying on Cynthia Freulnd to support your case you're already lost. Stats Stats Stats can be twisted any which way you want to argue any situation. Not one single metric suggests Sam Darnold is secretly good. No one can twist any of them to suggest he is. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, 56mehl56 said: When your relying on Cynthia Freulnd to support your case you're already lost. Stats Stats Stats can be twisted any which way you want to argue any situation. She didn't make up the stats though. NextGenStats is a reputable place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: A lot easier to get separation when the CB is guarding the sticks and you're running a six yard route on 3rd and 9. The only comment that matters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 NY Jets are 0-3 there is no WR in TEAM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, choon328 said: She didn't make up the stats though. NextGenStats is a reputable place. So what they get separation , what does it mean in game context. What are the situations . How many times do we see wr's running free but the QB is flushed from the pocket and has no chance to hit them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maxman Posted October 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Not one single metric suggests Sam Darnold is secretly good. No one can twist any of them to suggest he is. Sam darnold will win a super bowl with the jets and he will be in the jets ring of honor. He's like 15 years old and is in one of the worst spots possible for a young qb. He has to play better but a bunch of us are going to keep rooting for him regardless 8 1 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, Maxman said: Sam darnold will win a super bowl with the jets and he will be in the jets ring of honor. He's like 15 years old and is in one of the worst spots possible for a young qb. He has to play better but a bunch of us are going to keep rooting for him regardless Somehow he keeps getting younger every time his defenders post about him, lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lurker89 Posted October 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2020 Sam has been very bad. Gase has been very bad The defense has been very bad The Jets have been very bad. 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Augustiniak Posted October 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2020 So the jets wrs, who are widely regarded as the worst in the nfl, are somehow measured to get the 4th most separation of all wr groups in the nfl? This contention doesn’t pass the eye test. Berrios, hogan and Malone aren’t the 4th best at separating from dbs. It’s a joke. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, Lurker89 said: Sam has been very bad. Gase has been very bad The defense has been very bad The Jets have been very bad. This sums it up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Somehow he keeps getting younger every time his defenders post about him, lol. His defenders are called jets fans. We used to be able to hope for good things. Hopefully that is the case again soon. My biggest fear is Sam gets run out of town and end up on the Patriots. Scary thought. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Somehow he keeps getting younger every time his defenders post about him, lol. Just like @CTM's dates at the local community college. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: So the jets wrs, who are widely regarded as the worst in the nfl, are somehow measured to get the 4th most separation of all wr groups in the nfl? This contention doesn’t pass the eye test. Berrios, hogan and Malone aren’t the 4th best at separating from dbs. It’s a joke. I'd have to watch the all 22 to know for sure. Sam is playing bad any way you slice it though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: A lot easier to get separation when the CB is guarding the sticks and you're running a six yard route on 3rd and 9. aint this the truth, we have crap seperation, we literally throw the ball 5 yards short of the first down, so we get "extra" yards every time we catch a ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, Maxman said: His defenders are called jets fans. We used to be able to hope for good things. Hopefully that is the case again soon. My biggest fear is Sam gets run out of town and end up on the Patriots. Scary thought. I'd love to be wrong about Sam. I'm just not. He's the same guy who was a flawed prospect at USC. Don't equate stating something true with not hoping for better. I've already moved on to hoping for a QB in the 2021 draft. You can continue to support Sam all you'd like and hope he turns it around. I also want what's best for the Jets. And for me, part of that will be a new QB. I'm also not scared about Darnold going on to bigger and better things elsewhere. It didn't happen with Sanchez or Geno Smith. It won't happen with Darnold either. Darnold is better than both, but not by a significant margin. His ceiling is Andy Darnold. We should all want better than that. It's getting a bit tiresome how often people are being told how to be fans around here. Just tiresome. This pathetic franchise should just be happy to have anybody at all, however they choose to fan. I've been supporting this franchise since I was 10 years old and will continue to do so. That's far more than they deserve. People not thinking our current QB is a franchise QB should be the least of anybody's concerns. I root for the jersey. Individual players have to earn my loyalty. Darnold hasn't, much like many players on this lousy roster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: I'd love to be wrong about Sam. Same here I still root like hell for this kid to be our franchise QB but he has regressed poorly this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Just like @CTM's dates at the local community college. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I always knew the Hogan, Berrios, UPS guy trio was elite. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 So we got dem gud wiopnzz after all? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 27 minutes ago, choon328 said: Darnold is worse than you think though. No actually it means Darnold is only throwing to guys in places to make plays. so the opposite. Darnold is the martyr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, Maxman said: I'd have to watch the all 22 to know for sure. Sam is playing bad any way you slice it though. My comment was not a defense of the qb. It was a critique of the ridiculous claim that jet wrs are getting open more than the rest of the nfl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Here is video, granted a small sample size, that shows separation is not there.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Truth is and I firmly believe this, Darnold is actually amazing, with no help at all in any way, he is still able to throw a tb or first down is amazing. Over night it could be better with scheme and better plays. The barrios TD the other game when he got away from 3 tacklers...it was amazing. Darnold is really good. He need some help, Please fire gase and get some WR.. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Saul Goodman Posted October 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2020 We have the 4th best group of receivers in the entire league! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 26 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Somehow he keeps getting younger every time his defenders post about him, lol. He's our Frank Ntilikina. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 here's the per receiver breakdown, haven't found by team yet https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/receiving#average-separation apparently Braxton Berrios is 8th in the league, just behind JuJu. Gronk is just ahead of both. DeAndre Hopkins is 9th. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Somehow he keeps getting younger every time his defenders post about him, lol. Ha! For the record, I just want to say that I do love you guys. Your little routine is adorable. lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I want to know how this list is compiled cause between the all the 5 yard and under routes and screens i dont see it . we know sam is playing like crap . But the WR’s are historically bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, jetstream23 said: Ha! For the record, I just want to say that I do love you guys. Your little routine is adorable. lol obvious scum mates 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 39 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: But Darnold is still missing a lot of those WRs anyways. 6 yards and a chance at some YAC on 3rd & 9 is better than an incompletion or interception. Darnold has played like crap and missed easy throws. But I'm absolutely not here for any idiotic "Jets receivers have actually been good!" hot takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: obvious scum mates Nah! Good Jets fans with high standards....even if I disagree that they have an otherworldly ability to assess a QB on a team this dysfunctional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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