David Harris Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 If they get the number one pick then take Trevor Lawrence (I don’t know enough about Justin fields right now). Objective Statistics render they probably will not. Almost every game Sam has a magic moment, 3/4 of his top receivers aren’t available, Perriman, Mims, Vyncent. His ascending tight end is a mental case. Five new starters on the offense of line from a year ago. Still younger than Joe Burrow. Thank god his shoulder is intact so we can see more. He’ll never be Peyton Manning but you stick him on Kansas City and he is a 12 win quarterback. Draft Jamar Chase. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 If this board was allowed to vote on a roster they would manage to assemble something worse than Idzik, Maccagnan and Douglas have managed.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Hernandez Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, jeremy2020 said: If this board was allowed to vote on a roster they would manage to assemble something worse than Idzik, Maccagnan and Douglas have managed.. I'll keep this in mind when we finish 0-16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, David Harris said: If they get the number one pick then take Trevor Lawrence (I don’t know enough about Justin fields right now). Objective Statistics render they probably will not. Almost every game Sam has a magic moment, 3/4 of his top receivers aren’t available, Perriman, Mims, Vyncent. His ascending tight end is a mental case. Five new starters on the offense of line from a year ago. Still younger than Joe Burrow. Thank god his shoulder is intact so we can see more. He’ll never be Peyton Manning but you stick him on Kansas City and he is a 12 win quarterback. Draft Jamar Chase. Stick Rypien on Kansas City and he wins 13. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, David Harris said: If they get the number one pick then take Trevor Lawrence (I don’t know enough about Justin fields right now). Objective Statistics render they probably will not. Almost every game Sam has a magic moment, 3/4 of his top receivers aren’t available, Perriman, Mims, Vyncent. His ascending tight end is a mental case. Five new starters on the offense of line from a year ago. Still younger than Joe Burrow. Thank god his shoulder is intact so we can see more. He’ll never be Peyton Manning but you stick him on Kansas City and he is a 12 win quarterback. Draft Jamar Chase. Every night my cat has a magical moment of incredible athleticism. Right before he barfs on the carpet and tracks crap out of the litter box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, jgb said: Every night my cat has a magical moment of incredible athleticism. Right before he barfs on the carpet and tracks crap out of the litter box. He literally sacked himself. What are people even talking about at this point? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On KC he is an 8 win qb. He loses to many games by himself, and doesn’t have nearly enough ‘let me carry you scrubs’ moments like Mahomes. i think he could become a 10-11 win qb, but it’s going backwards atm. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, David Harris said: If they get the number one pick then take Trevor Lawrence (I don’t know enough about Justin fields right now). Objective Statistics render they probably will not. Almost every game Sam has a magic moment, 3/4 of his top receivers aren’t available, Perriman, Mims, Vyncent. His ascending tight end is a mental case. Five new starters on the offense of line from a year ago. Still younger than Joe Burrow. Thank god his shoulder is intact so we can see more. He’ll never be Peyton Manning but you stick him on Kansas City and he is a 12 win quarterback. Draft Jamar Chase. Nope... You don't pass on TL... period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: He literally sacked himself. What are people even talking about at this point? I can only assume they'd rather join nico in Siberia than admit they were wrong about him. This is Geno all over again times 100. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, jgb said: I can only assume they'd rather join nico in Siberia than admit they were wrong about him. This is Geno all over again times 100. Nico hasn't come back yet. That's a solid litmus test to suggest Darnold did NOT have a good game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 This hypothetical better scenarios are still just that. The reality is he's just never produced consistently and seems to be going backwards rather than forward. He looks absolutely traumatised in the pocket. Persisting with him is probably bad for everyone. Sam too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 It's not just working with him, it's the sunk opportunity cost of not starting the timeline with a new QB on his rookie contract. He would be going into year 4 with his 3rd regime and his play had never surpassed mediocre. Not too many examples of a player turning things around at that point. Are we going to pay him 30 million in year 5 for what hes shown us? Are you going to gamble an extension for him with what you've seen? You have to factor in bringing in a new coach, is he going to want to work with damaged goods or the hottest prospect to come into the NFL in years? The answer to all these is a resounding no, his only chance at a rebound is on another team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Lew Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hael said: On KC he is an 8 win qb. He loses to many games by himself, and doesn’t have nearly enough ‘let me carry you scrubs’ moments like Mahomes. i think he could become a 10-11 win qb, but it’s going backwards atm. He could win 11 but on KC he wins 8?? Never post again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Note the future tense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: This hypothetical better scenarios are still just that. The reality is he's just never produced consistently and seems to be going backwards rather than forward. He looks absolutely traumatised in the pocket. Persisting with him is probably bad for everyone. Sam too. I think he looked good in the pocket tonight. No picks, lots of pressure. 3rd string offensive tackles. Greg Van Roten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Nico hasn't come back yet. That's a solid litmus test to suggest Darnold did NOT have a good game. Or has he? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Icer said: It's not just working with him, it's the sunk opportunity cost of not starting the timeline with a new QB on his rookie contract. He would be going into year 4 with his 3rd regime and his play had never surpassed mediocre. Not too many examples of a player turning things around at that point. Are we going to pay him 30 million in year 5 for what hes shown us? Are you going to gamble an extension for him with what you've seen? You have to factor in bringing in a new coach, is he going to want to work with damaged goods or the hottest prospect to come into the NFL in years? The answer to all these is a resounding no, his only chance at a rebound is on another team. Many have tried to explain such concepts as sunken cost and opportunity cost. You'll just be called a "HATR F8K FAN." Applaud the effort, though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 New motto.. Suck with Sam.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 ffs, he had at least2 throws from a clear pocket toSmith deep and ****ed them both up... one a TD, the other like 30 yds... Robbo is glad Sam aint his QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I think we can definitely work with him. He has plenty of physical talent to play the position at a high level and I do think he could develop into a good NFL QB in the right situation. The question is whether we should work with him past this year. To me, that depends entirely on where we draft and who is available. If we have an opportunity to draft Lawrence, we are taking him. But there is a lot of gray area after that. I'd like to see what our record is and how Darnold plays with Mims and a healthy Becton back on the field, but my best guess is that Darnold won't be here next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Can 100% work with and win with him, but if we’re the #1 pick he will go win somewhere else and we’ll roll with Lawrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, sciond said: New motto.. Suck with Sam.... \\ wide open receiver #15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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