Trevor Lawerence vs Justin Fields

[Jetsfan4life90]

At this point, the Jets are clearly in the running for the #1 pick. If they get it, who's projected to be the better QB between Lawerence and Fields and which to draft? 

If the Jets end up at #2, one of those two would still be in play. 

[slimjasi]

Lawrence is going to be the #1 pick 

[FidelioJet]

The question I have is...

Let's assume w have the #1 pick...

Is there value in trading down from #1 - getting a massive haul of picks and then taking Fields.

I don't know how you can work something like that out, but what would be the better value.

[JTJet]

ESPN will drum up drama for ratings purposes (and they need it), but if you're questioning Trevor Lawrence not being the overall pick, you're just wrong. 

 

[LAD_Brooklyn]

5 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

The question I have is...

Let's assume w have the #1 pick...

Is there value in trading down from #1 - getting a massive haul of picks and then taking Fields.

I don't know how you can work something like that out, but what would be the better value.

Or a guy like Trey Lance.

[King P]

Lawrence is going #1 overall, no question about it.

But Fields is really really good, so I'm good with getting him as a consolation prize

[56mehl56]

I'll throw another name into the mix. KJ Costello , the kid shredded the LSU D for 632 yards last week and looked pretty damn good doing it. 

[BigRy56]

Is this even remotely close?

[TheMo]

Just now, 56mehl56 said:

I'll throw another name into the mix. KJ Costello , the kid shredded the LSU D for 632 yards last week and looked pretty damn good doing it. 

Air raid QB. Want to see consistent success. But definitely a guy to watch. After all I believe Mahomes was an air raid QB too. Just have to get more tape to separate the prospect from the system

[jetstream23]

I couldn’t make up my mind so I voted for both since that was an option.

[56mehl56]

12 minutes ago, TheMo said:

Air raid QB. Want to see consistent success. But definitely a guy to watch. After all I believe Mahomes was an air raid QB too. Just have to get more tape to separate the prospect from the system

As was Kyler Murray to some extent. BTW I'm not as high on Lawrence as most , I think he's more a product of Clemson being stacked against a mediocre ACC 

[UntouchableCrew]

Lawrence is the pick at 1. But Fields is the pick at 2.

[southtown24th]

y'all including me need to watch them more, side by side, to decide that.

[The Gooch]

Trevor can pull a John Elway also!!!

[Beerfish]

Both players are flat out flops if some actual douglas picks from this past year do not pan out and if his picks the next two years fo not pan out and if gase is still anywhere near this team.

[The Crusher]

So, we are doing this? 

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

If we draft Trevor Lawrence , he will probably play like Jennifer Lawrence

[Philc1]

2 hours ago, slimjasi said:

Lawrence is going to be the #1 pick 

Unless the jets have it

[FidelioJet]

Which one is a bigger threat to run?

That's who I want.  In today's NFL running QB's have a much bigger impact than they used to - and a team has three things going for them than before..

1) You just can't hit QB's the way you used to, even when they're running.  And these QB's are def. smarter now and learning how to use the slide to their advantage.  

2) With the rookie salary scale, if they get hurt - You're not screwed for 5 years.  Yeah, you wasted a pick but we do that all the time on DT's.  Your back-up can be another running QB that can be found later in the draft - or all over FA.

3) You can win right away with them.  You don't need 3 years to groom this type of prospect.

Get 5 good years out of a guy and move on to the next one if you have to.

Build a solid OL (doesn't need to be great) with the rest of your premium resources going into WR.  

[jetlaw]

I agree completely about the running quarterbacks and there is the additional benefit that there is less of a learning curve. The running quarterbacks can be productive in year one.


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[Scoop24]

1 minute ago, jetlaw said:

I agree completely about the running quarterbacks and there is the additional benefit that there is less of a learning curve. The running quarterbacks can be productive in year one.


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Well theres 2 of them in this class. Im cool with either if Greg Roman is the HC. 

[FidelioJet]

18 minutes ago, Scoop24 said:

Well theres 2 of them in this class. Im cool with either if Greg Roman is the HC. 

Yes, you have to have the right HC/OC to go with this style....Someone flexible enough to not force "their" offense on the team but someone like Harbaugh in Baltimore that took what he had and built an offense around his QB's skill-set.

[Mark78]

We already “sucked for Sam”; how many cycles of looking for the franchise QB and rebuilding do we have to go through.  Can’t wait just for some stability!

[FidelioJet]

3 minutes ago, Mark78 said:

We already “sucked for Sam”; how many cycles of looking for the franchise QB and rebuilding do we have to go through.  Can’t wait just for some stability!

I think it's past that point.  Wanting stability or not - JD has almost certainly moved on from Sam.  The reality is we'll be drafting a QB in the first round.  Might as well discuss who we want.

[HessStation]

6 minutes ago, Mark78 said:

We already “sucked for Sam”; how many cycles of looking for the franchise QB and rebuilding do we have to go through.  Can’t wait just for some stability!

Black Math says, 12

[Scoop24]

26 minutes ago, Mark78 said:

We already “sucked for Sam”; how many cycles of looking for the franchise QB and rebuilding do we have to go through.  Can’t wait just for some stability!

We didn’t even suck for Sam. We had to trade up to 3. And no one even expected Sam to be there.

[JiFtheOracle]

I'm on record, obviously subject to change once OSU starts playing but if you're giving me a choice right now, Lawrence or Fields, I'm taking Fields.  

I said this in the "generational talent thread" but it fits here too.  I cant wait to see OSU get playing because IMO Fields is the more intriguing prospect.  There is a trend going on in the NFL and it's real and Fields fit that trend.  The QB's that have been taken lately with a skill set that you just straight up cant teach (Mahomes, Watson, Wilson, Murrary, Jackson, Allen) over the traditional polished pocket passer.  That is Fields.  He brings a skill set to the table Lawrence could only dream of.  If you havent been paying attention, that is what you want in a prospect these days. 

[FlightBoyz]

I'd take either of those guys. Both will be legit QBs in the league with the right coaching ofcourse. I still have hope for Sam just don't think it'll be on the Jets. 

[Joejet]

Fields keeps his head down field when he is scrambling in the pocket and sometimes even directs his receivers while scrambling. He seems to have good accuracy even when passing on the run. He has great vision when running and is very elusive using fakes and spin moves that are usually only seen with elite running backs. I’m not sure of his arm strength as far as zip on the ball but he can definitely throw the long ball with accuracy. I think he and Lawrence are 1a and 1b but Fields would be my preference.

[Augustiniak]

4 minutes ago, Joejet said:

Fields keeps his head down field when he is scrambling in the pocket and sometimes even directs his receivers while scrambling. He seems to have good accuracy even when passing on the run. He has great vision when running and is very elusive using fakes and spin moves that are usually only seen with elite running backs. I’m not sure of his arm strength as far as zip on the ball but he can definitely throw the long ball with accuracy. I think he and Lawrence are 1a and 1b but Fields would be my preference.

Wouldn’t it be amazing if the jets and giants get the 1st and 2nd picks and take Lawrence and fields.  It’s actually not that far fetched, since jones looks like a turnover machine.  

[T0mShane]

I’ve never really seen it with Fields, and I dislike that he bounced on two different programs so he could inherit the Ohio State starting gig, and his whiny “Let Us Play” interview was entitled and incoherent. Feels like you’d be putting a primadonna at QB for a Jets team that needs a rock-ribbed leader. 

[Jetster]

Best case scenario? Jets pick #2, Trevor Lawrence goes off the board & the team with the #3 pick has their eye on someone other than a QB. 

Add another #2, draft Fields, have a field day with 6 more picks in the top 80.

[Jimmy 2 Times]

16 hours ago, 56mehl56 said:

I'll throw another name into the mix. KJ Costello , the kid shredded the LSU D for 632 yards last week and looked pretty damn good doing it. 

He was meh at Stanford.

I'd look at him as a mid round prospect, but not at the top of round 1.

Guess the number of scrubs that were amazing in Mike Leach's offense?

Hint, there's dozens. 

[T0mShane]

26 minutes ago, JiF said:

He brings a skill set to the table Lawrence could only dream of.

Someone’s doing a little racial profiling this morning, I see. Fields put up 484 yards rushing last year at 3.5 ypc. Lawrence put up 563 yards at 5.5 per rush.

[Jimmy 2 Times]

5 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I’ve never really seen it with Fields, and I dislike that he bounced on two different programs so he could inherit the Ohio State starting gig, and his whiny “Let Us Play” interview was entitled and incoherent. Feels like you’d be putting a primadonna at QB for a Jets team that needs a rock-ribbed leader. 

 

Spoken like a closet Michigan man.