TuscanyTile2 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 I was thinking about the 3 2nd rounders we traded to Indy to move up to draft Sam. If we had those picks, maybe the team wouldn't be the disaster that we currently are. I can't quite remember the 2017 draft situation details all that well so I could be wrong about this but, I think if we finished 4-12 (instead of 5-11) we would've had the 3rd pick without having to trade our 2nd rounders. We ended up 5-11 that year but Indy and Houston were both 4-12 (the Giants were 3-13 and Cleveland was 0-16). The "meaningless game" that we won was against KC. (IIRC, that was the game Marcus Peters threw the ref's flag into the crowd, leading to an unsportsman-like conduct penalty. Pic below). Anyway, assuming these assumptions are correct (and if memory serves, I kind of think they are), then that game could be why we're in the abyss right now. Crazy if so but something to think about as we watch another year of inept football. SIDE NOTE: I remember Maxman had the "SAR optimism" back then. When we were 0-3, he said we'd be 3-3. The difference, of course, is that Maxman was right! lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TokyoJetsFan Posted October 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2020 like Mcagnnan would have done anything good with those lost second rounders 9 1 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pointman Posted October 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, TokyoJetsFan said: like Mcagnnan would have done anything good with those lost second rounders Wow you short sighted incel. Darron Lee is a Super Bowl Champion. How dare you??? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post LockeJET Posted October 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2020 90% of the wins this franchise has over the last 50 years have been meaningless. 6 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 0-16 and evaluating Sam are the biggest priorities the rest of 2020. We either draft his replacement, or Sam proves he’s the guy (somehow without us winning) for the next coaching staff, and we trade #1 for a fortune and finish the rebuild with the war chest. Winning any games is an absolute detriment to the NYJ longterm...as Gase will be a goner, and we’ll be starting from scratch with a mostly new roster and completely new coaching staff next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ06 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Could have stayed at 6, saved the 3 picks, and drafted Josh Allen... 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan4life90 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, MTJ06 said: Could have stayed at 6, saved the 3 picks, and drafted Josh Allen... Josh Allen would be looking like a bust here too 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, MTJ06 said: Could have stayed at 6, saved the 3 picks, and drafted Josh Allen... To be fair, Josh Allen is a dummy and I bet he doesn't pan out. "League MVP", lol. As if. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 We have been drafting high for the last decade and it has made zero difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecuadorian Jet Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 This loser mentality is exactly why the format of the draft needs to change completely. No more rewards for losing, and in some cases purposefully losing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 46 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: 0-16 and evaluating Sam are the biggest priorities the rest of 2020. We either draft his replacement, or Sam proves he’s the guy (somehow without us winning) for the next coaching staff, and we trade #1 for a fortune and finish the rebuild with the war chest. Winning any games is an absolute detriment to the NYJ longterm...as Gase will be a goner, and we’ll be starting from scratch with a mostly new roster and completely new coaching staff next year. I personally think it’s going to be extremely hard for Darnold to prove that he is worth keeping without winning a lot more games than we currently think is possible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MTJ06 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 46 minutes ago, Jetsfan4life90 said: Josh Allen would be looking like a bust here too Josh Allen and 3 seconds or Darnold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usanyj Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, MTJ06 said: Josh Allen and 3 seconds or Darnold? The jets haven’t drafted well for a very long time. Having three seconds would be great but hackenberg, Smith, etc... all were terrible. I’m down on Sam too but Allen would probably look worse here with this team based on the game he plays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 3 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I was thinking about the 3 2nd rounders we traded to Indy to move up to draft Sam. If we had those picks, maybe the team wouldn't be the disaster that we currently are. I can't quite remember the 2017 draft situation details all that well so I could be wrong about this but, I think if we finished 4-12 (instead of 5-11) we would've had the 3rd pick without having to trade our 2nd rounders. We ended up 5-11 that year but Indy and Houston were both 4-12 (the Giants were 3-13 and Cleveland was 0-16). The "meaningless game" that we won was against KC. (IIRC, that was the game Marcus Peters threw the ref's flag into the crowd, leading to an unsportsman-like conduct penalty. Pic below). Anyway, assuming these assumptions are correct (and if memory serves, I kind of think they are), then that game could be why we're in the abyss right now. Crazy if so but something to think about as we watch another year of inept football. SIDE NOTE: I remember Maxman had the "SAR optimism" back then. When we were 0-3, he said we'd be 3-3. The difference, of course, is that Maxman was right! lol All of those 5 wins were meaningless that year. There was no reason to start McCown when every other vet had been cut or traded in an obvious tank season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ06 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 24 minutes ago, usanyj said: The jets haven’t drafted well for a very long time. Having three seconds would be great but hackenberg, Smith, etc... all were terrible. I’m down on Sam too but Allen would probably look worse here with this team based on the game he plays. Josh Allen would be running all over the field, And an upgrade overall at this point, and even if we only hit on 1-3 of the second rounds picks we are still better off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Izdikhead drafted 1 good player. Mac traded him away. Mac drafted 1 good player. JD traded him away. JD drafted 1 good player. Being the Jet, the next GM will trade him away. Bottom line: Jets don’t keep good draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jago Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Izdikhead drafted 1 good player. Mac traded him away. Mac drafted 1 good player. JD traded him away. JD drafted 1 good player. Being the Jet, the next GM will trade him away. Bottom line: Jets don’t keep good draft picks.mekhi’s mama already plotting her little boy’s getaway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 9 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: If we had those picks, maybe the team wouldn't be the disaster that we currently are. Yes we would have....Do you think Mcgagnan would have used them wisely? The answer is....no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Jet2020 said: Izdikhead drafted 1 good player. Mac traded him away. Mac drafted 1 good player. JD traded him away. JD drafted 1 good player. Being the Jet, the next GM will trade him away. Bottom line: Jets don’t keep good draft picks. Once players want to get paid, Jets get rid of them. Great strategy according to all the arm chair GMs here. Gotta save that cap to sign good players! But somehow the second half of that equation never manifests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 No one expected the injuries to pile up again like last year. You show me a team losing its entire starting WRs & playing a backup Center at LT & I'll show you a losing team. The offense at least has an abundance of injury excuses. The defense is absolutely ALARMING! You put 28 points up vs a 3rd string practice squad QB that's a win 99.9% of the time in this league. Remember watching Fales last year? There was a time when the Saints had a defense like this & the coach was Gregg Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 15 hours ago, Ecuadorian Jet said: This loser mentality is exactly why the format of the draft needs to change completely. No more rewards for losing, and in some cases purposefully losing. Prove that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 19 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 19 hours ago, MTJ06 said: Could have stayed at 6, saved the 3 picks, and drafted Josh Allen... Mac would have taken Rosen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: Mac would have taken Rosen. In full disclosure, I was 100% sure that's who our pick was going to be the way the first two selections went that night. And I would have been happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 19 hours ago, MTJ06 said: Could have stayed at 6, saved the 3 picks, and drafted Josh Allen... Or Lamar Jackson. The picks do hurt this team because those players would be coming into their own . Of course this depends on Mac making solid picks. Since he was no better than idzik it’s hard to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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