Daddy Wang Doodle Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, jgb said: Better than Darnold because he is better than Darnold. Put another way, Darnold would be nearly as terrible as he is now on the Browns. Clown take. Unsurprising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, Daddy Wang Doodle said: Clown take. Unsurprising Disagreeing with me ends in sad necro tears. You're on notice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ06 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 B. Mayfield stats 19/29 165 Yards and 2 tds..... So, really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 True + Stefanski is 1000000000x better than Gase OBJ and Landry 1000000000000x than Brett Bastios 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I don't remember ever being interested in starting this discussion? But it was started by the media for some reason I can't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: You're making the tragic mistake of underestimating Jet fans . NEVER underestimate us ! Unfortunately you are right! I still remember the Yahoos who swore that Chad Pennington was better than Tom Brady because Chad had a better completion percentage...... However, you would think that Jets fans would have a modicum of self respect and realize just how bad the TEAM is right now and not try and make it like Darnold is why guys don't make tackles, miss interceptions, the team is undisciplined, drop TD pass, haves no true Number 1 or Number 2 WRs, are featuring the oldest RB in NFL history, use said old RB on speed roll outs in the end zone, neuters one of the best RB in NFL history in Bell, has on OL that without Becton is still HORRIFIC, and has a HC in Gase who doesn't seem to take blame and acts bizarrely absent a hat on his head. Yea other than all of that Darnold has indeed played poorly at times but I wonder who folks think could come in here and turn all that around by their lonesome. Answer = NO ONE!!!!! Indeed, I am watching the Buccaneers and their defense which is led by Todd Bowles, which has far better players than the Jets, getting torched right now and while the Bucs are actually scoring points I see them doing so with players 1000 times better than the Jets players. Also with all that I see Tom Brady miss throws too. You man QBs do that????? With the big difference for TB is that the players Brady has are big time players who are imposing their will..... So yea its all the same..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Wang Doodle Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, jgb said: Disagreeing with me ends in sad necro tears. You're on notice If Mayfield comes here and Darnold goes to the Browns, I suppose you will have your chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 51 minutes ago, Bronx said: End of discussion: Mayfield > Darnold Is the inspiration for this thread today coming from Mayfield’s 165 yards passing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, Daddy Wang Doodle said: If Mayfield comes here and Darnold goes to the Browns, I suppose you will have your chance What a nice little fence you've built around your argument so you can never be proven wrong. Sounds like you're confident! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 minute ago, southtown24th said: True + Stefanski is 1000000000x better than Gase OBJ and Landry 1000000000000x than Brett Bastios 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 52 minutes ago, Bronx said: The disgusting truth, thoughts? Wake me when this thread is over 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Had Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Mayfield has moxie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 The QB for Clemson is also better than the QB from the Citadel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: The QB for Clemson is also better than the QB from the Citadel. How can you tell!!!! Different weaqponzZ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Bert Baminos 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Charlie Brown Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, jgb said: My arms are tired from swatting this debunked argument away so many times. Since I wanted Mayfield drafted by the Jets I don't know what you are talking about...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Brandon Bannicos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jgb Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, Charlie Brown said: Since I wanted Mayfield drafted by the Jets I don't know what you are talking about...... Doesn't matter what we wanted 3 years ago. Mature people change their opinion as they gather additional data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Bruce Banikos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, southtown24th said: Bobby Ballidos You’re confused. I think you mean the Jets WR, Burt Bacharach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 minute ago, jgb said: Doesn't matter what we wanted 3 years ago. Mature people change their opinion as they gather additional data. What are your talking about?? I just said I waned MAYFIELD! Are you just typing things out without a modicum of thought so you can be RIGHT! Don't you get it....I am now saying we have to wait to see if that decision by me was fair by making sure that Darnold has NFL quality guys to throw to?? Good Grief! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: What are your talking about?? I just said I waned MAYFIELD! Are you just typing things out without a modicum of thought so you can be RIGHT! Don't you get it....I am now saying we have to wait to see if that decision by me was fair by making sure that Darnold has NFL quality guys to throw to?? Good Grief! My position is we have enough evidence to know--not think, not be uncertain--that Darnold does not have "it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Wang Doodle Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, jgb said: What a nice little fence you've built around your argument so you can never be proven wrong. Sounds like you're confident! You said Darnold would be bad but ever so slightly better on the Browns and Mayfield would be better here cause he's better than Darnold. How the f*ck else would this be definitively proven outside of the scenario I said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Wang Doodle Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 What a pitch to Odell. Only first overall picks can do that stuff. Update: almost 300 yards rushing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Daddy Wang Doodle said: You said Darnold would be bad but ever so slightly better on the Browns and Mayfield would be better here cause he's better than Darnold. How the f*ck else would this be definitively proven outside of the scenario I said? My good sir. Longer reply incoming. Go get a beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Charlie Brown said: What do you think??? Management. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 In the early Spring, when icy waters flow from snowy hills, and the crumbling soil loosens in a westerly breeze, then I’d first have my oxen groaning over the driven plough, and the blade gleaming, polished by the furrow. The field that’s twice felt sun, and twice felt frost, answers to the eager farmer’s prayer: from it boundless harvest bursts the barns. But before our iron ploughshare slices the untried levels, let’s first know the winds, and the varying mood of the sky, and note our native fields, and the qualities of the place, and what each region grows and what it rejects. Here, wheat, there, vines, flourish more happily: trees elsewhere, and grasses, shoot up unasked for. See how Tmolus sends us saffron fragrance, India, ivory, the gentle Sabeans, their incense, while the naked Chalybes send iron, Pontus rank beaver-oil, Epirus the glories of her mares from Elis. Nature has necessarily imposed these rules, eternal laws, on certain places, since ancient times, when Deucalion hurled stones out into the empty world, from which a tough race of men was born. Come: and let your strong oxen turn the earth’s rich soil, right away, in the first months of the year, and let the clods lie for dusty summer to bake them in full sun: but if the earth has not been fertile it’s enough to lift it in shallow furrows, beneath Arcturus: in the first case so that the weeds don’t harm the rich crops, in the other, so what little moisture there is doesn’t leave the barren sand on Draft Day 2021 Are we done now with these threads?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Wang Doodle Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, jgb said: My good sir. Longer reply incoming. Go get a beer. I'll save you the time. I won't respond or care enough to read let alone respond 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 51 minutes ago, jgb said: Admitting you are wrong on the Internet is the most difficult thing on Earth. I believe that violates the TOS here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, Daddy Wang Doodle said: You said Darnold would be bad but ever so slightly better on the Browns and Mayfield would be better here cause he's better than Darnold. How the f*ck else would this be definitively proven outside of the scenario I said? Ah, ok. Here goes. The thread title is about comparing Baker to Darnold. That is what we are are debating. I believe Baker is better than Darnold. The consequences of that belief are that Baker would do better than any situation Darnold is in (because he's better). I'll also concede that Browns have better talent but because Darnold is not a FQB, his performance improvement would be marginal or at best incremental. That is dicta, not germane to the actual discussion occurring herein. A "bonus opinion," if you will. But you, my good man, are focusing on the trees and losing sight of the forest. There are plenty--hundreds?--of ways to debate and then measure the actual crux of the debate: is Baker better than Darnold? And we don't have to depend on hypothetical universes or Freaky Friday body switches to do that. A proposal: Pick any traditional measure of QB success and propose it. Career Pro bowls? QBR? Playoff games? And you can mark me down for the Baker side. I'll even spot you that Baker already won rookie of the year, and say from here on out they start even Steven. If I were you, I'd demand odds for backing Darnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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