GreekJet Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Arnold Palmer wouldn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 Lawrence must not have hired him to tutor him 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 If your thing is gone and you wanna ride on cocaine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Discrediting and crapping on Palmer by JN “experts” in 3.....2....1.... 2 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, jetstream23 said: Discrediting and crapping on Palmer by JN experts in 3.....2....1.... Correct. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Palmer has a relationship with darnold 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 We don't need to discredit Palmer, we can watch Darnold's progression through 3 years do that for him 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 “The casual eye.” 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I don;t have a huge issue with people wanting to move on from Darnold or want Lawrence. I have an issue with people thinking there would be any difference with lawrence at qb for this jets team or that Trevor Lawrence is 'generational' 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimmy 2 Times Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 Sam's in a very very tough situation, BUT he misses wide open receivers with his arm and his eyes. If he was simply making the plays that ARE there, then I could continue to argue that he's the one. To be honest, he hasn't impressed outside from the random play/throw since his rookie year vs the Texans and Packers. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Sam pays him and has been for more than 3 years...what is he supposed to say? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekJet Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 Irregardless of your evaluation of Darnold vs Lawrence or a rookie this is a salary cap sport. The Jets are going to restart the clock if they can. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Icer said: We don't need to discredit Palmer, we can watch Darnold's progression through 3 years do that for him Palmer is used by Allen and Mahomes.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Palmer is used by Allen and Mahomes.. A more interesting question would be, does palmer prefer darnold to allen, given that he’s worked with both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 The Media Spin Whisperer. Yes, we believe you, Jordy. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 The Palmer brothers are the real life "TWINS". Carson's Arnold. Jordan (I legit had to scroll back up to see his first name) is Danny Devito.. aka "the sh*t leftover". I'd call Jordan a troll, but realistically he is more of a moron than anything. Hack QB who someone made a living into tricking young quarterbacks to come to his camp. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, GreekJet said: Irregardless of your evaluation of Darnold vs Lawrence or a rookie this is a salary cap sport. The Jets are going to restart the clock if they can. What exactly is this supposed to mean? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: A more interesting question would be, does palmer prefer darnold to allen, given that he’s worked with both of them. He's done an excellent job not answering that question when he's been asked. It strikes me on a thing I saw about the 2018 QBs that people keep talking about Allen being coachable. Can't remember the show, but they were talking about how almost every player has some sort of personal coach and every QB does...that some of them show up to their 'camps' and do everything when they're with the coach, but as soon as they leave, it's all gone. Kinda makes me think about how Sam's footwork often slips and looks pretty poor. I'm wondering if he can do it without the coach being there and why his "QB coach" isn't doing that for him if that's the case. Who on the Jets is working with him on his mechanics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: What exactly is this supposed to mean? It means 5 years of Lawrence under a rookie contract or 1 year of Darnold and then 25M 5th year and extension thereafter. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CTM Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 34 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Discrediting and crapping on Palmer by JN “experts” in 3.....2....1.... We must defer to experts who have incentive to promote the postion they've taken 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 What if...the choice wasn’t Darnold or Lawrence. What if the choices were: Lawrence OR Two 1st round draft picks Two 2nd round draft picks Two 3rd round draft picks (perhaps a top flight receiver in addition to or in lieu of one of the draft picks) + Darnold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 What if...the choice wasn’t Darnold or Lawrence. What if the choices were: Lawrence OR Two 1st round draft picks Two 2nd round draft picks Two 3rd round draft picks (perhaps a top flight receiver in addition to or in lieu of one of the draft picks) + Darnold Then the choice we’d be making would still be Darnold, lol. We’d just be kicking the can down the road for our longterm future at QB in the process. Was this supposed to be an unsolvable riddle, or?.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekJet Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 Another example of Sam Darnold being bad. The guy is not an NFL starting QB. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 40 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I don;t have a huge issue with people wanting to move on from Darnold or want Lawrence. I have an issue with people thinking there would be any difference with lawrence at qb for this jets team or that Trevor Lawrence is 'generational' I think the difference is night and day. Lawrence comes in on a rookie contract with a left tackle already in place. A GM with extra premium picks and a lot of cap space. On the contrary when Darnold showed up we were down multiple second rounders. Think about it. Seattle’s first, our own second and third, Seattle’s third. Plus cap space. Oh and Lawrence doesn’t get Gase as HC. Lawrence will be in a much better position to succeed. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 40 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Palmer is used by Allen and Mahomes.. Palmer has also coached Christian Hackenberg and is on tape as being very optimistic about his future. All possible at a far distant semi colon in the future tense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Then the choice we’d be making would still be Darnold, lol. We’d just be kicking the can down the road for our longterm future at QB in the process. Was this supposed to be an unsolvable riddle, or?.... It sounded better in my head lol. If a haul of draft picks and maybe a proven stud skill player were offered, the Jets should at least listen. The team is just still so bare as far as talent, it’s going to take years to get us out of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 It sounded better in my head lol. If a haul of draft picks and maybe a proven stud skill player were offered, the Jets should at least listen. The team is just still so bare as far as talent, it’s going to take years to get us out of this. Listen, and then ask for a couple more first rounders. And still say no. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Hopefully he's advising a GM not named Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 38 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: He's done an excellent job not answering that question when he's been asked. It strikes me on a thing I saw about the 2018 QBs that people keep talking about Allen being coachable. Can't remember the show, but they were talking about how almost every player has some sort of personal coach and every QB does...that some of them show up to their 'camps' and do everything when they're with the coach, but as soon as they leave, it's all gone. Kinda makes me think about how Sam's footwork often slips and looks pretty poor. I'm wondering if he can do it without the coach being there and why his "QB coach" isn't doing that for him if that's the case. Who on the Jets is working with him on his mechanics? I don’t think Darnold’s problems have to do with the way his feet work. I think theY have to do with the way his head works. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Jordan Palmer is Dustin Hoffman in “Rain Man.”Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said: What if...the choice wasn’t Darnold or Lawrence. What if the choices were: Lawrence OR Two 1st round draft picks Two 2nd round draft picks Two 3rd round draft picks (perhaps a top flight receiver in addition to or in lieu of one of the draft picks) + Darnold I like taking the picks. No matter who is taking snaps the core of the roster needs a huge influx of talent due to years and years of mismanagement. In 2022 there will be another hot prospect that everyone thinks is the greatest QB in the last 2000 years to come out of college, until 2023 when it's true again. Focus on upgrading the roster and creating a stable environment for whoever is eventually the QB. You also have one last year to evaluate Darnold with a better roster and hopefully a better coaching staff. This is the ultimate team game. Qb is the most important position but it's not the only position. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 What is interesting about the Jordan Palmer quote is that he is throwing everything Jet related under the bus...structure, coaching and roster. I agree with with Palmer but he looses credibility with that blanket statement. There is zero accountability from Palmer on Darnold, everybody's fault but the QB. "Lots more than the casual eye would catch." Palmer is off the mark, there is nothing casual about of Jet Nation forum posters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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