"Glass" Joe Douglas

[Bronx 1,085]

Classic character from Nintendo Punch out. 

The handling of the roster and coach:

Glass is the player's first opponent in all of his roles. As a foil among most of the boxers, he is famous for his weakness and cowardice, considered by critics to be stereotypes of French people. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_Joe

Some of you have a manly love for him regardless that he has proven nothing yet. If he somehow turn things around and builds a legit team, I'll gladly apologize. In the meantime, he has to prove himself, grab his cojones and make us relevant in the league.

[slimjasi 11,249]

People believe in Douglas because his plan is sound (acquire a lot of draft capital, build through the draft, avoid quick fixes like overpaying free agents). But, Idzik's plan was also sound. The bottom line is, either he is good at drafting or he is bad at drafting. 

We'll find out soon enough. 

[Bronx 1,085]

Just now, slimjasi said:

People believe in Douglas because his plan is sound (acquire a lot of draft capital, build through the draft, avoid quick fixes like overpaying free agents). But, Idzik's plan was also sound. The bottom line is, either he can draft or he can't. 

We'll find out soon enough. 

I am with you but we are all pissed for the outcome thus far. Keeping fingers crossed.

[Drums 5,002]

He doesn’t have a ton of time before everyone turns on him but I’m giving him at least 1 more offseason. He better be the dude 

[DJF71 1,443]

3 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

People believe in Douglas because his plan is sound (acquire a lot of draft capital, build through the draft, avoid quick fixes like overpaying free agents). But, Idzik's plan was also sound. The bottom line is, either he is good at drafting or he is bad at drafting. 

We'll find out soon enough. 

Well so far his draft is a LT and a punter.  Thats not good enough. 

[Jetsfan80 122,708]

The misdirected anger is getting old, fast.  

Johnsons, with a side of:  

 

Douglas is the only hope for this woebegone franchise.  We're not attracting a better caliber GM than him as long as the Johnson's own the franchise.  It's sink or swim with JD whether folks like it or not.

[DJF71 1,443]

His job was to make the team as competitive as possible. He did not do that and failed Darnold. He will be ruined by next year. He will be cut or traded by the next. 

[Nixhead 2,058]

He’s gonna have to get rid of Gase and bring in a competent offensive staff or he will be run out of town - just the good draft picks aren’t on the table anymore. And I don’t want to hear that Gase reports to CJ. because the fans won’t care. 

[slimjasi 11,249]

4 minutes ago, DJF71 said:

Well so far his draft is a LT and a punter.  Thats not good enough. 

Yes, so far. Through 4 weeks of an NFL season that had no preseason and is littered with injuries. 

I know this team is a national disgrace right now and everything seems hopeless, but it's really not. 

 

[Bronx 1,085]

6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

It's sink or swim with JD whether folks like it or not.

I wonder if JD says the same thing about Gase.

[Jetster 13,322]

He’s not going anywhere with a 6 year contract. He won’t be afraid to be bold! 
It’s coming after this season. 
I want to see a holy sh*t moment, like a new QB trade Darnold to NFC moment. 
Too many of our GMs try to do just enough to save their jobs. 

[Bronx 1,085]

1 minute ago, Jetster said:

He’s not going anywhere with a 6 year contract. He won’t be afraid to be bold! 
It’s coming after this season. 

I know this is a different sport, but the Knicks reputation diverted many top notch free agents from coming last year due to the ownership. Maybe this year with a more reputable coaching staff, things will turn around. 

The Jets need to bring the most reputable coaching staff to get things going. That's the bottom line.

 

[chrisfaceoff 1,511]

Listen,

 

you can make arguments for both sides. 
 

is there stuff that he failed to do so far?  Yes. 
 

1) extending Robby

2) not double dipping for another WR with this class instead of taking Morgan  

3) failing to sign a pass rusher and CB

 

But he did help in quite a few ways as well  

Choosing Becton who has done nothing but impress everyone-this team and around the league  there is a very good chance we found the franchise LT that is tough to do  

Fant looks like a fantastic signing so far  

exploring every option to upgrade that line  

 

the fact is we need to hit on everything because of how devoid of talent this team is  over years, not just one offseason to be able to have a respectable team  with how much everything sucks right now it’s much easier to see the shortcomings and be pessimistic, but you can’t ignore the positives either(or flip side if you think everything is peachy)

 

he’s done work, but he had a lot more to do. I think he had the vision to know this season was going to be a mess because of Covid, and didn’t want to spend heavy for it.  let’s see what this offseason can bring  that’s going to be more telling of how things will go  

let’s see what happens with staff, and players  the rest of the year is just a straight up audition for almost every coach and player on this team  

 

[HawkeyeJet 11,236]

23 minutes ago, Bronx said:

I am with you but we are all pissed for the outcome thus far. Keeping fingers crossed.

I'm not pissed.  This is about exactly what I expected, other than Darnold getting worse other than getting better.

[Icer 3,584]

People need a reality check. No GM can turn around this team in one offseason after 7 years of incompetence. If JD's next 3 drafts only produce one starter each, then yes we can start taking out the pitchforks.

[rangerous 4,158]

24 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

People believe in Douglas because his plan is sound (acquire a lot of draft capital, build through the draft, avoid quick fixes like overpaying free agents). But, Idzik's plan was also sound. The bottom line is, either he is good at drafting or he is bad at drafting. 

We'll find out soon enough. 

right now, with becton, perine, and mann, his draft looks better than any mac or idzik had.  throw in mims and clark and the guy will look like a supergenius. obviously one draft isn't all that he should be judged on but his free agent pick ups are better than the players they replaced, with the exception of adams and robbie.  there are a lot of reasons to be hopeful.

[slimjasi 11,249]

1 minute ago, rangerous said:

right now, with becton, perine, and mann, his draft looks better than any mac or idzik had.  throw in mims and clark and the guy will look like a supergenius. 

Correct.  

[Drums 5,002]

I think JD had a strategy to get rid of Gase and this is it

[Mogglez 16,703]

 

“wahhhhhh, Joe Douglas is a big meanie and a coward because now my Jamal Adams, Sam Darnold, Le’Veon Bell, and Robby Anderson jersey’s are worthless ”

[New York Mick 95,583]

It doesn’t matter what ingredients you buy if they chef can’t cook. Fix the HC. 

[Jetsfan80 122,708]

29 minutes ago, Bronx said:

I wonder if JD says the same thing about Gase.

If he does, then he's not the guy.  I highly doubt that is the case.  You don't die on that hill as an NFL GM.  

[batman10023 1,744]

37 minutes ago, DJF71 said:

Well so far his draft is a LT and a punter.  Thats not good enough. 

a good punter really makes a big difference and is overlooked.

[jgb 27,750]

39 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

The misdirected anger is getting old, fast.  

Johnsons, with a side of:  

 

Douglas is the only hope for this woebegone franchise.  We're not attracting a better caliber GM than him as long as the Johnson's own the franchise.  It's sink or swim with JD whether folks like it or not.

Like blaming the tow truck driver for the accident

[jgb 27,750]

1 minute ago, batman10023 said:

a good punter really makes a big difference and is overlooked.

Especially on a team that averages 15 punts a game

[ljr 2,837]

looking for a decade of success through the draft vs a year of success via free agency is the right decision

(although I must note there were FA moves on the OL ... so far Van Roten and the C seeming to be failures, and Fant ... very surprisingly to me, a success)

2020 is  "let's see what he's got" for him looking at what Gase and Sam bring to the table

1st draft going LT then WR were far and away great moves position-wise for our needs ... playing the "wait & see" with the 4 OL at spot 11 ... as well as manipulating the WR pick in round 2 were very encouraging ... regarding his draft value judgement 

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We already know the evaluation on Becton was a huge success.  Until Mims can (and there is still a good chance he will) show otherwise he needs to be classified as a draft failure.  Besides Mann we also need to consider the rest failures until we actually see different.

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Personally, I count not making additional moves to increase Sam's chances of success as a failure.  JD hasn't seemed to make judgments elsewhere based on a particular guy ... instead, going big picture value vs cost in his decisions ... apparently that is how he feels with Sam as well.  Let the kid sink or swim this year ... and then JD will make 2021 moves at QB based on his 2020 performance.

As a whole I am encouraged by JD's moves (and lack of moves) so far

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Regarding Glass Joe ... As far as "weakness and cowardice" that's wrong.  You want to go with "the choices he's made" are made of glass" that would be correct. (I'm sure though, that the whole thing was just in fun busting on JD)

[Jetsfan80 122,708]

3 minutes ago, ljr said:

Regarding Glass Joe ... As far as "weakness and cowardice" that's wrong.  

 

The Becton pick alone was very ballsy.  Macc wouldn't have made that pick in a million years.  He would have taken Jerry Jeudy there and pushed the OT issue to the 2nd/3rd round.

[CTM 149,735]

47 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Douglas is the only hope for this woebegone franchise.  We're not attracting a better caliber GM than him as long as the Johnson's own the franchise.  It's sink or swim with JD whether folks like it or not.

[varjet 3,985]

JD’s plan is basically identical to Idzik’s plan, which tells me that perhaps the Johnsons were involved with the plan.

In both cases the Jets had a QB on the roster who took the brunt of the damage for the plan.  

I don’t think JD wrote off Darnold this year.   I just think, like many, that he was willing to invest in some OL to keep Darnold upright and have him push along, and see what happened next year.   He is on his rookie contract next year, and then the next year is the 5th year option, with Franchise the following year.  

Darnold took too big of a hit behind an injured line.  Sanchez was mauled behind the third string.  We saw how Pennington did.  

[playtowinthegame 6,444]

Glass Joe! LMAO 

[joewilly12 25,367]

If JD as our GM thinks Sam Darnold is not the answer, grow some balls and trade him before the trade deadline and move on. 

Be a GM JD not a puppet. 

[TeddEY 263,002]

1 hour ago, DJF71 said:

His job was to make the team as competitive as possible.

Says who?

[TeddEY 263,002]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

The misdirected anger is getting old, fast.  

Johnsons, with a side of:  

 

Douglas is the only hope for this woebegone franchise.  We're not attracting a better caliber GM than him as long as the Johnson's own the franchise.  It's sink or swim with JD whether folks like it or not.

People who blame Joe Douglas for this mess believe Sam Darnold is a top tier QB that just needs weapons, and I imagine, in unicorns as well.

[SAR I 14,518]

We've got the teamwork to make the dream work.  Let's go.  Let's go Jets.

SAR I

[Sonny Werblin 5,010]

1 hour ago, DJF71 said:

His job was to make the team as competitive as possible. He did not do that and failed Darnold. He will be ruined by next year. He will be cut or traded by the next. 

That's not his job. His job is to build a team that wins year in and year out. This is, for the most part, counter to making the team better now.

My problem is that Gase doesn't feature, or even work in, the young guys who are the future of the team. 

[Sonny Werblin 5,010]

13 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

People who blame Joe Douglas for this mess believe Sam Darnold is a top tier QB that just needs weapons, and I imagine, in unicorns as well.

How about someplace in between like Sam can be a solid NFL QB with better talent around him and better coaching.