BCJet Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 While the Jets are a full on disaster, I still think getting to #1 overall, either through record or trade is gonna be difficult. So assuming we have a top 6 pick, JD can likely find a HC candidate like Greg Roman, Brian Daboll or Arthur Smith who can be paired with an athletic QB who needs a year of development like Lance (or Fields). Lance in particular to me seems like an excellent developmental player who we can draft with our own 1st rounder and allow to sit for 8-12 games in 2021 while we get a look at Sam with an actual coach and can then make a decision. After his performance Saturday it seems like he was a bit rusty throwing the ball but ran it extremely well. At 6'3 226 he has excellent size for the position to be able to work a few designed runs each week. He has experience under center ant NDSU but would benefit from a year on the bench learning the pro game. To me this seems more realistic then mortgaging the farm for Lawerence as we can use our additional first round pick to continue building the rest of the roster and then see what holes we have in the 2022 draft and address those with the 2 firsts to build around either a much improved Darnold or Lance and his ability to run, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Untouchable Posted October 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2020 Either we get the #1 pick and take Lawrence, or we build the sh*t out of the team around Darnold with hopefully a guy like Daboll or Roman leading the way. I’m not taking a QB just for the sake of taking one. If we don’t get the 1st pick, then grab someone like Sewell or Chase. 5 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I'm not taking Lance coming off 1 non FBS season. Wentz's career has taken a tailspin and he at least played 4 years at the same school. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 From the little I've seen of Lance, he seems like he's another Kyler Murray type guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 Well hes in the draft at least! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Pretty insane that he's coming out, would have figured he would have stayed. Might be better for him to come out though, can get to work with a qb coach for the rest of the year now. He'll go in the 1st round though even with the limited playing time, Jordan Love went 1st round after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I’m done taking kids with limited college careers. Sanchez: 16ish starts; Darnold: 24ish starts but also only started playing QB in his second or third year of high school. The reps simply aren’t there for these inexperienced guys. And as much as I hate it, it’s not enough to say, “well he’s only 21 so he has time to develop”, because (1) a lot can go wrong like hiring Adam Gase, and (2) the clock on the rookie contract starts the day you sign - regardless of your age. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 On 10/6/2020 at 10:04 AM, Untouchable said: Either we get the #1 pick and take Lawrence, or we build the sh*t out of the team around Darnold with hopefully a guy like Daboll or Roman leading the way. I’m not taking a QB just for the sake of taking one. If we don’t get the 1st pick, then grab someone like Sewell or Chase. This is it. The only way Sam ISN’T back next year with a new coach is if we have a shot at Lawrence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: This is it. The only way Sam ISN’T back next year with a new coach is if we have a shot at Lawrence. New regimes always mean new QB's. There is no good case to be made for Darnold being back in 2021. The Jets are headed for a top 3 pick and this is looking like a 3-QB class. Just saying its "Lawrence or bust" doesn't make it so. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I've only watched a couple of highlight videos of Trey Lance but he reminds me of Kyler Murray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Jets will have the #1 pick question is does Lawrence come out despite the Johnsons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/10/2020 at 8:36 PM, Jetsfan80 said: New regimes always mean new QB's. There is no good case to be made for Darnold being back in 2021. The Jets are headed for a top 3 pick and this is looking like a 3-QB class. Just saying its "Lawrence or bust" doesn't make it so. See what Sam does with a real head coach and WRs. If he’s ok jets can trade him for picks at the deadline and then move on with Trevor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/10/2020 at 10:59 PM, TuscanyTile2 said: I've only watched a couple of highlight videos of Trey Lance but he reminds me of Kyler Murray. Not really. He's twice as tall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/6/2020 at 12:06 PM, TuscanyTile2 said: From the little I've seen of Lance, he seems like he's another Kyler Murray type guy. Doesn’t have near the arm talent as Kyler Murray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Lawerence or Fields. Otherwise I'm building the TEAM and finding a quarterback the following year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/15/2020 at 12:33 AM, Patriot Killa said: Doesn’t have near the arm talent as Kyler Murray. Everything Ive read is that he has a + NFL arm and obviously has a lot more size then Murray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Jets will have the #1 pick question is does Lawrence come out despite the Johnsons?Hate to be the bearer of bad news brah but the jets are on the outside looking in right now.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 10/6/2020 at 10:04 AM, Untouchable said: Either we get the #1 pick and take Lawrence, or we build the sh*t out of the team around Darnold with hopefully a guy like Daboll or Roman leading the way. I’m not taking a QB just for the sake of taking one. If we don’t get the 1st pick, then grab someone like Sewell or Chase. Regardless of who our QB is, we need the RIGHT head coach. But, this will be especially true if we keep Darnold. The entire offensive system and roster needs to be built specifically to accent his skillset - Motion, rollouts, playaction, strong zone run game, middle of the field routes, and uptempo. Lawrence will be special, but Sam still has a chance to be a good starter in this league, and with a good team and coach you can win consistently with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 33 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: Regardless of who our QB is, we need the RIGHT head coach. But, this will be especially true if we keep Darnold. The entire offensive system and roster needs to be built specifically to accent his skillset - Motion, rollouts, playaction, strong zone run game, middle of the field routes, and uptempo. Lawrence will be special, but Sam still has a chance to be a good starter in this league, and with a good team and coach you can win consistently with that. Save it with Darnold Once upon a time the kid had a ton of promise and possessed the potential to be a legit Top 5 QB in this league for the better part of two decades. That’s gone. Kaput. Maybe he resurrects his career elsewhere and becomes an Alex Smith-type. Maybe, maybe not. Who really cares, he’s done as a Jet. That’s a given. As for the right HC? Agreed there. And I say that you don’t dick around with another coordinator with pie in the sky aspirations. You go get an actual program builder who can transform a franchise. That’s not Eric Bienemy. That’s not Brian Daboll. That’s not Greg Roman. Maybe there’s an outside shot that is happens, but I’m tired of banking on that silly sh*t with no more than a hope and a prayer to base it on. You go make a move. A big time, “we won’t take this sh*t anymore” type of move. You go land the proven. A guy who has shown in the past that he can do it and you feel very confident in him doing it again. Whether it be Jim Harbaugh, Mike Shanahan, trading that Seattle 1st rounder for the rights to Sean Payton...whatever. Just get it done Myself and many other fans of this sh*t franchise are probably within 20 or so years of kicking the bucket without having seen this dickbag of a franchise win anything of significance. I was knee-high to a grasshopper when Namath took us there. That ‘68/‘69 run means dick to folks like me. Go for the gold and get it done. Finally. Hopefully. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 10 hours ago, Untouchable said: Save it with Darnold Once upon a time the kid had a ton of promise and possessed the potential to be a legit Top 5 QB in this league for the better part of two decades. That’s gone. Kaput. Maybe he resurrects his career elsewhere and becomes an Alex Smith-type. Maybe, maybe not. Who really cares, he’s done as a Jet. That’s a given. As for the right HC? Agreed there. And I say that you don’t dick around with another coordinator with pie in the sky aspirations. You go get an actual program builder who can transform a franchise. That’s not Eric Bienemy. That’s not Brian Daboll. That’s not Greg Roman. Maybe there’s an outside shot that is happens, but I’m tired of banking on that silly sh*t with no more than a hope and a prayer to base it on. You go make a move. A big time, “we won’t take this sh*t anymore” type of move. You go land the proven. A guy who has shown in the past that he can do it and you feel very confident in him doing it again. Whether it be Jim Harbaugh, Mike Shanahan, trading that Seattle 1st rounder for the rights to Sean Payton...whatever. Just get it done Myself and many other fans of this sh*t franchise are probably within 20 or so years of kicking the bucket without having seen this dickbag of a franchise win anything of significance. I was knee-high to a grasshopper when Namath took us there. That ‘68/‘69 run means dick to folks like me. Go for the gold and get it done. Finally. Hopefully. Another reason why this is so important is because the Jets appear to be heading to a 0-1 win season. Who would want to sign up for that? Trevor Lawrence? Free agents? This franchise has a serious credibility issue now, maybe worse than ever. Having the right head coach here will make it easier for potential players to buy into the program and want to join the team. A former coordinator as a first time head coach is not gong to carry the cache needed to convince players to want to come to the Jets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Admittedly, I have not seen Lance at all. That being said, I think he's too risky for us in the top 6 given his lack of experience...at the FCS level. However, if we miss out on Lawrence & Fields, the BYU QB (Zach Wilson) has my attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 5 hours ago, CTJetsFan said: Admittedly, I have not seen Lance at all. That being said, I think he's too risky for us in the top 6 given his lack of experience...at the FCS level. The FCS part doesn't bother me much. The part about him only having 19 career college starts....THAT is very relevant in the evaluation process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I have a hard time imagining we're drafting outside of the top two, personally. If it's not Lawrence it will be Fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Since when is using your own draft pick defined as "mortgaging the farm?" They can just draft Lawrence or they can move down and draft Lance or Fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I’d probably take Mac Jones over Lance right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Lawrence or Fields or sign a FA until the next guy comes along. No thank you on a limited action small school QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Lance and Zach wilson make this a bad year to pick 1.01. Not that trevor or fields would be bad players, but they aren't exactly elite talents. If you can find a similarly talented QB lower down the draft, you could do more with that first overall pick. Imagine getting Sewell, the best o-line prospect in a long time, and trading the seahawks' pick to take Lance or wilson. A talented QB playing behind a rock solid offensive line built around Becton and Sewell is far more logical than breaking-in a conservative 1.01 pick behind a a makeshift OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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