Maxman Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 This week Tyson questions the direction of this franchise. It is on the front page now... http://www.jetnation.com/?p=428 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Hey Phil after reading this morning's article can I add to my rage? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 Hey Phil after reading this morning's article can I add to my rage? lol You know what got me today? I was on board with the Bradway contract extension. Was thinking wow, that is pretty cool he will just do the draft. Then I read Peter King say that they gave him the extra year and will spread his 900k out over that time. Like he just hit the flex time lottery or something. I didn't feel so good about it once I read that spin on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 This all had to be done. There is no way around it. This group of players had their shot and now it's done. There's no point to keep throwing good money after bad when there's not a chance in hell they will get any better. And if we were going to go with "experience"-Haslett, Tice, et al-Mangini is by far preferable. And I say all this knowing we're looking at a 6 or 7 win team at best in 2006.Still firmly believe that Mangini and Tannenbaum know what they're doing. Nobody is going to get their salary on reputation,and for far too long, that was the Jets' MO. And it never got us anywhere. Loved when asked about Martin, rather than butter him up, Mangini said simply Martin would compete for the RB spot. He knows-a 34-year old coming off an injury for the 2nd time in 3 years is not the guy you overpay or build your offense around unless you want to suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 What should get fans excited now is not the 2006 season with the inevitable cap woes & departures of fan favorites. Assuming it's accurate, do the year-pulldown from 2006 to 2007 (on aec4's page, http://www.wissearch.net/Jets/Default.aspx?Year=2007). The cap # would stand to be ~$80M, BUT that INCLUDES: Chad Pennington $7,000,000 - will be zero if he's cut next week. Ty Law $7,350,000 - will count zero when he's cut next week. Curtis Martin - will count at least $2M less after redoing his contract Pete Kendall $4,570,000 - will count zero when he's cut next week Wayne Chrebet - will be $1.3M ($700K less) if he retires after June 1 (with a new CBA) Jay Fiedler $900,000 - will count zero when he's cut next week --------------------- Total = ~$22,500,000 This doesn't even take Mawae into account. Leaving the cap # for the remaining players at ~$57,500,000 (plus the cap cost of the '06/'07 draft picks & any moderately-priced FA's we acquire this year, which will likely bring it to the $65-70M range). IF there's a new CBA (which would certainly push the cap for '07 & beyond at $100-110M) & our cap # is at or around $70M, we'd be in as-good or better cap shape than pretty much every team in the league. I'm sure Tannenbaum/Mangini are doing all these cuts with this in mind & not just getting under the 2006 cap for the sake of doing so, which is why it's only players we don't see as long-term answers getting the axe (or whose cap #'s are so disproportionate with their current/future value). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 Sperm, That is a real good post. Take the hit this year and be done with it. Hell as fans we will be excited just to see the team headed in the right direction. I see Tyson's point...we are trusting guys that have never done it before. But like has been mentioned here before that is the only choice other than hiring someone who has already been fired elsewhere. I will take the chance on the guys we have brought in. They are young but they are hungry. I will take that over someone who is just collecting a pay check! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Sperm, That is a real good post. Take the hit this year and be done with it. Hell as fans we will be excited just to see the team headed in the right direction. I see Tyson's point...we are trusting guys that have never done it before. But like has been mentioned here before that is the only choice other than hiring someone who has already been fired elsewhere. I will take the chance on the guys we have brought in. They are young but they are hungry. I will take that over someone who is just collecting a pay check! this is what has been a locomotive steamin forward from the day Mangini hired,, dismantle IT ALL THIS YEAR, take the ungodly hit in the wallet and the record on field,, so what,, whats the difference between 2-14 and 7-9,,, big deal, either way no playoffs. this way we get young guys who get playing experience for when we are ready to make a move and we flush vets who wont be here anyways in 2 years,, only person upset is BZ who for some reason thinks we need to have win a few for the gipper this year,, take the hit, get experience, depth and a great pick next year,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Sperm, That is a real good post. Take the hit this year and be done with it. Hell as fans we will be excited just to see the team headed in the right direction. I see Tyson's point...we are trusting guys that have never done it before. But like has been mentioned here before that is the only choice other than hiring someone who has already been fired elsewhere. I will take the chance on the guys we have brought in. They are young but they are hungry. I will take that over someone who is just collecting a pay check! Max- this purge was outlined by myself 2 months ago, b4 Mangini was hired, i took alot sh&t for it too, apparently mangini reads Jet Nation!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Max- this purge was outlined by myself 2 months ago, b4 Mangini was hired, i took alot sh&t for it too, apparently mangini reads Jet Nation!!!! Well then it's official - he's a genius!!! ...or he just likes seeing the word "turd" in print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Well then it's official - he's a genius!!! ...or he just likes seeing the word "turd" in print. I think EM likes Herm being referred to as ****roach SJ is the turd creator! in more ways than one!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 Max- this purge was outlined by myself 2 months ago, b4 Mangini was hired, i took alot sh&t for it too, apparently mangini reads Jet Nation!!!! Magini is online right now. He shows up in the Who's Online as Yahoo Slurp Spider. Weird. I probably should have revealed his identity but I put you guys first. Herm reads all the time from K.C. He shows up as MSN Bot Spider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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