PFT Adams article makes the point perfectly on why to trade him

[WowOhWow]

Take a look at the last line in this post.  The Seahawks are considered elite.  They are 4-0.  They traded for a boat load for Adams.  But they have the 32nd ranked defense and are clearly only winning because they have an elite offense.  Safeties don't matter.  Adams didn't matter.  In today's NFL you have to be dynamic on offense.  The only reason they're winning is because of Wilson and the offense.

Enough with the crying over Adams being traded.  He didn't matter....at all.  We sucked with him and we suck without him.

Let's build our offense (without Gase) and give ourselves a chance.

 

Safety Jamal Adams won’t play this week, but his return might come sooner than later.

Seahawks coach Pete Carroll is optimistic Adams can get back on the field following Seattle’s Week Six off week. That would put Adams in the lineup for Week Seven against the Cardinals.

“It’s really hard on him, because he’s so competitive and he’s at the far end of the spectrum in the kind of energy that he brings and operates with and his expectations are so high,” Carroll said, via NFL.com. “To have to deal with the frustration of not being able to express all of that is really difficult. I recognize that only as a strength and a positive. We’ve worked our way through it, and it’s why I made the declaration with him early so we’re not hanging with it during the week.

“He’s applying himself to his rehab like he does on the football field. He’s really going for it and he’s going to be ready for it next turn, just not this one.”

Adams has a groin injury that took him out of the victory over the Cowboys in the fourth quarter. Ryan Neal has replaced Adams on the league’s 32nd-ranked defense.

[jgb]

There are 100 roads to a championship in the NFL. 95 of them start with a legit FQB.

[Scoop24]

Another jamal thread. You would think he still played here or something.

[Adoni Beast]

If Jamal was still on this team, we’d still be 0-4. He’s a damn good player who plays a non premium position and is a BIG liability in coverage.

No hate for Jamal the player, you don’t pay big bucks for that. The haul that Douglas got for him is a miracle.

[Barry McCockinner]

DIdn't you say you were not coming back? Don't break promises like that.

[WowOhWow]

5 minutes ago, Scoop24 said:

Another jamal thread. You would think he still played here or something.

It's an offense thread, not a jamal thread.  Our genius GM drafted 2 safeties back to back in a league where you can be 32nd in the league in offense and be a super bowl fav.   

[WowOhWow]

5 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

DIdn't you say you were not coming back? Don't break promises like that.

Do you have anything other than snarky, bull sh*t to offer?  You're a douche who's opinion means nothing bc most of the time your opinion is actually not serious.  You don't being anything to the table other than immature BS.  Believe me, this board would be so much better off if you were not  part of it.  Go away.  Don't read any of my threads bc all you do is kill threads.  You're a thread killer.

Literally can't think of the last insightful (or attempt at insightful) comment you've made.

[Barry McCockinner]

1 minute ago, WowOhWow said:

Do you have anything other than snarky, bull sh*t to offer?  You're a douche who's opinion means nothing bc most of the time your opinion is actually not serious.  You don't being anything to the table other than immature BS.  Believe me, this board would be so much better off if you were not  part of it.  Go away.  Don't read any of my threads bc all you do is kill threads.  You're a thread killer.

Literally can't think of the last insightful (or attempt at insightful) comment you've made.

 

[joewilly12]

11 minutes ago, Scoop24 said:

Another jamal thread. You would think he still played here or something.

Exactly the guys gone move on. 

[Scoop24]

5 minutes ago, WowOhWow said:

It's an offense thread, not a jamal thread.  Our genius GM drafted 2 safeties back to back in a league where you can be 32nd in the league in offense and be a super bowl fav.   

Its 2020 jamal is in seattle with a real franchise QB  on his way to playoffs and Mac is swiming in his money bin after fresh pot of coffee.  Time to move on 

[WowOhWow]

2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

 

This is what a thread killer looks like.  Nothing to offer.  Completely unrelated to the post.  If I had to go back and dig up all the threads you killed I'd be here all day.  Just go kill someone else's thread.

[JTJet]

8 minutes ago, WowOhWow said:

It's an offense thread

Is it? Lol...

PFT Adams article makes the point perfectly on why to trade him

[jgb]

18 minutes ago, WowOhWow said:

It's an offense thread, not a jamal thread.  Our genius GM drafted 2 safeties back to back in a league where you can be 32nd in the league in offense and be a super bowl fav.   

Think about who our HC was at the time. Bowles was on a personal mission to MSGA (make safeties great again). We drafted Adams (and Maye) because Bowles couldn't work with FA Tyrien Matthieu--honeybadger had knocked up Bowles' daughter. Can you imagine milquetoast Bowles trying to manage Tyrien?

15 minutes ago, WowOhWow said:

Do you have anything other than snarky, bull sh*t to offer?  You're a douche who's opinion means nothing bc most of the time your opinion is actually not serious.  You don't being anything to the table other than immature BS.  Believe me, this board would be so much better off if you were not  part of it.  Go away.  Don't read any of my threads bc all you do is kill threads.  You're a thread killer.

Literally can't think of the last insightful (or attempt at insightful) comment you've made.

Put the knife down. 

You can't honestly expect not to get your chops busted a little bit when you announce a dramatic exit and then come back two days later.

[Beerfish]

There will be an ever increasing number of entites, whether it be football stat sites or the national media that start giving Douglas props for the trade, the same ones that blasted the shi* out of the jets for trading their best player.

[Jet Nut]

2 hours ago, WowOhWow said:

Take a look at the last line in this post.  The Seahawks are considered elite.  They are 4-0.  They traded for a boat load for Adams.  But they have the 32nd ranked defense and are clearly only winning because they have an elite offense.  Safeties don't matter.  Adams didn't matter.  In today's NFL you have to be dynamic on offense.  The only reason they're winning is because of Wilson and the offense.

 

He played in two games.  

I thought you were done and gone?

[Larz]

1 hour ago, Adoni Beast said:

If Jamal was still on this team, we’d still be 0-4. He’s a damn good player who plays a non premium position and is a BIG liability in coverage.

No hate for Jamal the player, you don’t pay big bucks for that. The haul that Douglas got for him is a miracle.

The Jets are 0-4 with a left tackle providing exceptional pass protection. LT is not a premium position and Becton is 0-4. Didn’t move the needle. 

[Larz]

2 hours ago, WowOhWow said:

Take a look at the last line in this post.  

Adams has a groin injury that took him out of the victory over the Cowboys in the fourth quarter. Ryan Neal has replaced Adams on the league’s 32nd-ranked defense.

Were you expecting them to play with 10 men on Defense?   You don’t a really think that that Neal is the player Adams is, do you?

[Adoni Beast]

9 minutes ago, Larz said:

The Jets are 0-4 with a left tackle providing exceptional pass protection. LT is not a premium position and Becton is 0-4. Didn’t move the needle. 

Left Tackle is the 2nd (imo) or 3rd most important position. The exact definition of a premium position.

[Larz]

4 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

Left Tackle is the 2nd (imo) or 3rd most important position. The exact definition of a premium position.

Whoosh 

[Beerfish]

16 minutes ago, Larz said:

Were you expecting them to play with 10 men on Defense?   You don’t a really think that that Neal is the player Adams is, do you?

he has  2 ints in two games, a careers worth for jamal and he had six tackles last game, oh and he was not getting torched for a zillion yards.

Is a practice squad guy like Neal as good as jamal Adams?  No.   But Jamal adams like most safeties is very easy to replace.

Jamals presence has been part of a last overall defense.

Since he does not create game changing turnovers his effect in the grand scheme of things is not great.

[BROOKLYN JET]

 

[Joejet]

This fan base has a very unhealthy obsession with Adams. He’s gone, he’s in Seattle, move on.

[T0mShane]

25 minutes ago, Larz said:

The Jets are 0-4 with a left tackle providing exceptional pass protection. LT is not a premium position and Becton is 0-4. Didn’t move the needle. 

[Jet Nut]

18 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

Left Tackle is the 2nd (imo) or 3rd most important position. The exact definition of a premium position.

[jgb]

36 minutes ago, Larz said:

The Jets are 0-4 with a left tackle providing exceptional pass protection. LT is not a premium position and Becton is 0-4. Didn’t move the needle. 

Gotta love how effortlessly this place can oscillate between obtuse and nuanced, depending on which suits their argument. 
 

Adams was on a losing team with Jets—so he didn’t move needle and therefore isn’t good. Yet Darnold is secretly good because “potential.” Uh, shouldn’t the “impact position” players get the disproportionate blame for the outcome of the games?

[More Cowbell]

2 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

DIdn't you say you were not coming back? Don't break promises like that.

Beat me to it. And he came back to put up an Adams thread. Like anyone really cares about him anymore. 

[BROOKLYN JET]

5 minutes ago, jgb said:

Gotta love how effortlessly this place can oscillate between obtuse and nuanced, depending on which suits their argument. 
 

Adams was on a losing team with Jets—so he didn’t move needle and therefore isn’t good. Yet Darnold is secretly good because “potential.” Uh, shouldn’t the “impact position” players get the disproportionate blame for the outcome of the games?

 

[More Cowbell]

5 minutes ago, jgb said:

Gotta love how effortlessly this place can oscillate between obtuse and nuanced, depending on which suits their argument. 
 

Adams was on a losing team with Jets—so he didn’t move needle and therefore isn’t good. Yet Darnold is secretly good because “potential.” Uh, shouldn’t the “impact position” players get the disproportionate blame for the outcome of the games?

It is nauseating reading this BS every time talent on this team comes up. 

[Beerfish]

Almost without exception the people that say 'time to move on' want to move on not because jamal is on another team but because they want to move on from the fact that they loved this schmuck and can now see clearly he is massively overrated.

Also we will have a jamal thread and 20 people come in and say time to move on instead of just ignoring the thread and letting it die, they do a fine job of keeping it at the top of the boards.

[Beerfish]

10 minutes ago, jgb said:

Gotta love how effortlessly this place can oscillate between obtuse and nuanced, depending on which suits their argument. 
 

Adams was on a losing team with Jets—so he didn’t move needle and therefore isn’t good. Yet Darnold is secretly good because “potential.” Uh, shouldn’t the “impact position” players get the disproportionate blame for the outcome of the games?

Well box safeties are more important than QBs I'll grant you that.  The Jets QB is a whole other discussion.

The jamal fanatics will grasp at anything to deflect the simple question, does he as a player really affect a team to any great extent?

The answer is clearly no.

[jetophile]

3 hours ago, Scoop24 said:

Another jamal thread. You would think he still played here or something.

It's like a bad ex-boyfriend whose face you scribbled out of all of your photographs. Who amongst you hasn't had an old Bic pen without a cap just waiting in the back of a drawer specifically for this purpose? All of that scribbling come to naught, because SOMEHOW there's always doubles lying around the house. Your annoyance gets stretched out forever just because you were dumb enough to have that roll of film developed in Rite-Aid 25 years ago. "Oh, no! IT'S HIM! AGAIN!"

[jgb]

34 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Well box safeties are more important than QBs I'll grant you that.  The Jets QB is a whole other discussion.

The jamal fanatics will grasp at anything to deflect the simple question, does he as a player really affect a team to any great extent?

The answer is clearly no.

It's just odd how the logic works. Many who argue that Jamal isn't an important part of the team because the Jets had a bad record while he was here, defend Sam who played in those same losses at an actual impact position. Should not the responsibility for wins and losses alike fall disproportionately on those who play in impact positions?

 

[jgb]

2 hours ago, More Cowbell said:

It is nauseating reading this BS every time talent on this team comes up. 

Not sure if you're referring to my comment as BS or are agreeing with me but I'm also tired of swatting away the same flies every single time we have a new QB come in and stink up the joint.

[addage]

Following up on JA is important.  It was a huge trade.  His on field performance for the Jets was excellent.  His off field performance was borderline disastrous.  When the trade was made, the Jets seemed to have gotten the greater value.  If Jamal's contribution to the Hawks isn't outstanding, then the value of the trade bends even more heavily towards the Jets.

Of course, Joe Douglas has to convert the potential of the trade into valuable players.  So we have to see about that.  Jets history isn't promising but the jury on JD is still out.  Until the choices are in, we don't know what the Jets are actually getting.

But following up on Jamal makes sense if you want to know who "won" the trade.

[jgb]

3 hours ago, Scoop24 said:

Another jamal thread. You would think he still played here or something.

He does. With our emotions.