Jetster Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Raiders went into KC & went toe to toe with Super Bowl winner & are currently up by 9. Maybe we shouldn't give up on Sam too quickly.Derek Carr was called a bust after a couple of tough years. Coaching Matters. Continuity Matters. Continuity means nothing when your coaching sucks. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Soon as making fun of Gruden became a thing, the savvy posters knew he's be good. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 minute ago, jgb said: Soon as making fun of Gruden became a thing, the savvy posters knew he's be good. He has experience & he's won. It took some time (our Jets kicked his azz a couple of times), but he actually has a system, a plan & good assistants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jetster said: Raiders went into KC & went toe to toe with Super Bowl winner & are currently up by 9. Maybe we shouldn't give up on Sam too quickly.Derek Carr was called a bust after a couple of tough years. Coaching Matters. Continuity Matters. Continuity means nothing when your coaching sucks. I wanted Gruden when I heard he was coming back, and completely agreed with him trading away players for many picks. Although, it probably wouldn’t have mattered here anyway. This is where people come to die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, greenwichjetfan said: I wanted Gruden when I heard he was coming back, and completely agreed with him trading away players for many picks. Although, it probably wouldn’t have mattered here anyway. This is where people come to die. Same here. I def didn't make fun of Gruden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I picked the Chiefs in my survivor pool. Unreal. Football brings me nothing but pain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jetster said: Raiders went into KC & went toe to toe with Super Bowl winner & are currently up by 9. Maybe we shouldn't give up on Sam too quickly.Derek Carr was called a bust after a couple of tough years. Coaching Matters. Continuity Matters. Continuity means nothing when your coaching sucks. Derek Carr’s rookie year would be Sam Darnold’s career year. That’s the difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, jgb said: Soon as making fun of Gruden became a thing, the savvy posters knew he's be good. I wonder what that means for Gase. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Jetster said: He has experience & he's won. It took some time (our Jets kicked his azz a couple of times), but he actually has a system, a plan & good assistants. Yep but down the memory hole it will all go as everyone now will claim his success there was "obvious." 1. Express unpopular opinion. Get mocked incessantly. 2. Be proven correct. Everyone claims "well, it was obvious anyway." 3. Point out how you were one of the few who called it. Get mocked incessantly for "bragging." Being right just has to be its own reward here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Jetlife33 said: I picked the Chiefs in my survivor pool. Unreal. Football brings me nothing but pain. I picked against the Jets three times this season, and its going well so far lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jetster said: Carr was called a bust after a couple of tough years. Was he really though? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 He was good with the Raiders. He was good with the Buccaneers. He’s back with the Raiders and being good again. Who makes fun of him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted October 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 minute ago, fullblast said: I wonder what that means for Gase. ? Gase was bad with Miami. He’s bad with the Jets. Anyone sensing a pattern here? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, fullblast said: I wonder what that means for Gase. ? The only time Jets fans are en masse correct is when predicting impending disaster for the Jets. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, TuscanyTile2 said: Same here. I def didn't make fun of Gruden. When he came back, my intern at the time was a 22year old. He didn’t understand Gruden’s appeal to the 30 year olds like me. I tried to explain to him that he took a journeyman QB in Oakland and turned him into an MVP before leaving and beating that same team in the Super Bowl with Brad freaking Johnson at QB. Flew right over his head, and was calling for him to be fired when he traded away Mack. Funny stuff looking back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, jetstream23 said: Gase was bad with Miami. He’s bad with the Jets. Anyone sensing a pattern here? But he sure was willin' to work cheap! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Its Jon not John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 This game is still not over. But yes, Gruden has the Raiders looking good. Every move he made was picked apart. He’s having the last laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Gase was bad with Miami. He’s bad with the Jets. Anyone sensing a pattern here? Yeah, he'll wind up in NE and torment us for the next 20 years. Or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 A LOT of people also wrote off Carr as a QB. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I wonder what it's like to have a decent offensive coach? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, slimjasi said: I wonder what it's like to have a decent offensive coach? Oh, we have a very offensive coach alright! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMAC Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I'm not. Happy to see him succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 @Raideraholic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsYanks13 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Who made fun of Gruden? How can any Jets fan on this board make fun of super bowl winning coaches? Look at the loser running the team right now? He’s arguably the worst HC in the NFL. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: When he came back, my intern at the time was a 22year old. He didn’t understand Gruden’s appeal to the 30 year olds like me. I tried to explain to him that he took a journeyman QB in Oakland and turned him into an MVP before leaving and beating that same team in the Super Bowl with Brad freaking Johnson at QB. Flew right over his head, and was calling for him to be fired when he traded away Mack. Funny stuff looking back. Everyone made fun of him for the Mack trade. In fact, some said he was losing the players. He was TOUGH on Carr, but continued to be supportive. This confirms that trading Adams was definitely the right thing to do by JD. We need JD to now find us a capable Head Coach. Gase is a dead man walking & even he knows it as do the players. He's now our sacrificial lamb to lead us to the top overall pick. We're not tanking, we're truly the worst team in football, hands down. More guys will start quitting to protect themselves, you'll see a lot more hamstring injuries as the season rolls on. This team 5 games in already has quit and there will be no spark going forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I'll add this to my list of things to not give a ____ about. The Jets are on there too till they fire Gase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, peebag said: Its Jon not John Whatever Peabrain, I think you got the gist of the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, The Crusher said: @Raideraholic All my friends are laughing at me for taken KC in my suicide pool. Well worth being knocked out. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: All my friends are laughing at me for taken KC in my suicide pool. Well worth being knocked out. No!!! Say it isn’t so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Let's not forget that the Raiders, the least valuable team in the NFL, gave Gruden a long-term lucrative contract to fix the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Gruden is the Lizard king in the desert this week, who knows what happens next week. Gruden always had that 'it-factor'. A coach still needs to win to survive but he leads, players have always followed him like the pied piper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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