Philc1 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 The Johnsons need to have a sit down with Trevor and his agent explain very clearly their years of micromanagement and interference with football decisions are over. Gase is gone. This organization is starting fresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Dolphins will destroy us Now the patriots if they are starting Stidham or Hoyer — those are the potential accidental wins that keep me up at night Early line Miami-10. Let that sink in for a minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, predator_05 said: If it's a con, we won't find out for another 3 years. That's why you offer hope. With hope comes expectation, and discussions relating to whether those expectations will be fulfilled. The entire cycle of - is he good or not? - will play out over half a decade, which takes pressure off the owners. This is nothing but escapism, fandom is irrational by design. Groundhog day. The owners know this. let me ask the question a different way with no weapons, half a line etc wouldn't the Jets just "ruin" Trevor like they ruined Darnold? this is a question about team building there's the sanchez model where you load up everything and try to find the rookie to move resources to as he grows (there was no way Sanchez year 5 post extension was going to have the same support Sanchez year 1, it's simple cap management and then there's the Darnold model where you trade 3 second round picks and believe the QB will be so great he will overcome all the lack of resources around him (resources which were used to acquire him) the question is this: Do we believe in the Sanchez model or the Darnold model or building a team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 13 hours ago, Scoop24 said: Giants are gonna beat washington maybe even the eagles. There a competitive team I agree. Giants will 'be in' some games as Falcons also will. The Jets, sadly, have zero games that I can see where they will have ANY chance of winning. 0-16 is probable. Miami road win over 49ers show we wont beat then once. Jets would NEVER be able to do what Dolphins did yesterday, NEVER. My fear is season cancelled and in true Jets luck, NFL will take winless teams and make them flip coin or something to determine #1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Dolphins will destroy us Now the patriots if they are starting Stidham or Hoyer — those are the potential accidental wins that keep me up at night I can't see us moving the ball against New England but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, section314 said: Early line Miami-10. Let that sink in for a minute. Miami is a much better team but Fitz can always throw a game away and when we play them down the line this season Tua could be in and he could always come out of the gates struggling to start his career. Who knows. Shame this is what we are left to talk about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, bitonti said: let me ask the question a different way with no weapons, half a line etc wouldn't the Jets just "ruin" Trevor like they ruined Darnold? this is a question about team building there's the sanchez model where you load up everything and try to find the rookie to move resources to as he grows (there was no way Sanchez year 5 post extension was going to have the same support Sanchez year 1, it's simple cap management and then there's the Darnold model where you trade 3 second round picks and believe the QB will be so great he will overcome all the lack of resources around him (resources which were used to acquire him) the question is this: Do we believe in the Sanchez model or the Darnold model or building a team? I'm not sure there's a definitive model, but i can describe what the 'sweet spot' looks like: 1. A smart, innovative coaching staff that understands the game, and the QBs strengths and weaknesses. 2. A front office that drafts well and makes the right moves in free agency; steadily improving the roster whenever possible. 3. A team possessing a combination of ascending and experienced players; they'll make the QBs job easier. 4. A diverse back office consisting of competent scouts, analysts, medical department, physios, strength and conditioning. 5. Patient, unobtrusive owners, with a long-term vision. 6. Supportive fan base and media. 7. Luck. Very few teams hit the 'sweet spot', as described above. The Patriots did, the chiefs recently, seahawks, the steelers to a lesser extent. The darnold and sanchez era were complete failures, they were nowhere near the sweet spot described above. They were half-assed attempts at achieving short-term success. Lawrence will succeed if, and only if, he hits that sweet spot. Being a cynic, my guess is that he'll fall short of expectations, just like darnold did. The organization is a dumpster fire; and the fire is too strong for one talented firefighter to extinguish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 50 minutes ago, freestater said: Those 3800 engines are bulletproof. Not even kidding. Wish I had one. My neighbors would love me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 56 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Dolphins will destroy us Now the patriots if they are starting Stidham or Hoyer — those are the potential accidental wins that keep me up at night LOL, the Patriots would beat us handily with Luke Falk at QB. That defense legitimately shut our offense out for two full games last year. I am terrified to see what it does to this year's version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, predator_05 said: The darnold and sanchez era were complete failures, they were nowhere near the sweet spot described above. They were half-assed attempts at achieving short-term success. agree with most of your post but just to be clear Mark Sanchez is the all time playoff wins leader, all happened on the road, and went to the AFC CG 2x it was a failure in the sense it never won the big game or got there but turns out RED-YEL-GREEN wasn't the dumbest thing ever this. This is the dumbest thing ever not that I would pass on Lawrence per se but i suspect those looking to him for a savior are just making the same mistake with Darnold over again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, bitonti said: not that I would pass on Lawrence per se but i suspect those looking to him for a savior are just making the same mistake with Darnold over again Oh, for sure. We all know its gonna be a car crash. I'm just hoping for a good season or two along the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, predator_05 said: Oh, for sure. We all know its gonna be a car crash. I'm just hoping for a good season or two along the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 7 hours ago, southtown24th said: So we are peers. Glad we cleared that up. I am hiring and I can get you out of that bi level in Hackensack. Hit me up! Thought so, dummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 7 hours ago, jgb said: Wish we could believe goodbye threads Incredible. Damn. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, pointman said: Thought so, dummy. bingo! Did we just become best friends? WE SURE DID! yesssssssssssssssssssss 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 34 minutes ago, southtown24th said: bingo! Did we just become best friends? WE SURE DID! [PERSONAL ATTACK CENSORED] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 39 minutes ago, jgb said: [PERSONAL ATTACK CENSORED] YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, southtown24th said: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Just now, southtown24th said: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS At first it was fun to bust your chops. But now I think we need an intervention for your own good. Take a mental health break, bro. Love ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, jgb said: At first it was fun to bust your chops. But now I think we need an intervention for your own good. Take a mental health break, bro. Love ya. we good homie living high on the hog here in the most beautiful part of the country, Southern CA. Gainfully employed. beautiful wife. beautiful kids. beautiful home. here for one reason: to make myself laugh. period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 if you are on the internet, in an anonymous forum and you take YOURSELF or ANYONE ELSE HERE seriously? You are the one who needs their head examined... this place is for one purpose and one purpose alone: making yourself laugh. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 I actually feel very, very sorry and sad for the folks who come on here and take this stuff seriously or take themselves seriously. this is an ANONYMOUS MESSAGE BOARD FOR THE WORST FRANCHISE IN SPORTS. wake up and smell the coffee boys and girls and little Tommies, too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 21 hours ago, southtown24th said: Trevor Lawrence to the mother ******* piece of sh*t Giants, man, I ain't gonna be happy. I thought you were going to say you would quit rooting or something if it does happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: I thought you were going to quit rooting or something if it does happen all the things take me very, very, very seriously. very. seriously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, southtown24th said: we good homie living high on the hog here in the most beautiful part of the country, Southern CA. Gainfully employed. beautiful wife. beautiful kids. beautiful home. here for one reason: to make myself laugh. period. Sounds like you have a lot of good reasons to spend less time here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, jgb said: Sounds like you have a lot of good reasons to spend less time here. I am here! Ready to go! Until I decide to bail again. Sad. I feel sad for you. Really sad. Bi levels are tough places to live. I get it. Inheriting homes from your mother's brother in Plainview, LI sucks dick. I get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, southtown24th said: I am here! Ready to go! Until I decide to bail again. Sad. I feel sad for you. Really sad. Bi levels are tough places to live. I get it. Inheriting homes from your mother's brother in Plainview, LI sucks dick. I get it. Are you bragging about yourself or trying to insult me? Anyone else needs a decoder ring here?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, jgb said: Are you bragging about yourself or trying to insult me? Anyone else needs a decoder ring here?? I am here for my own entertainment. You do the math, Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, jgb said: Are you bragging about yourself or trying to insult me? Anyone else needs a decoder ring here?? Can you send me some photos of the inside of your bi level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, southtown24th said: I am here for my own entertainment. You do the math, Frank. Until you’re not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jgb Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, southtown24th said: Can you send me some photos of the inside of your bi level? Google goatsie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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southtown24th Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, jgb said: Are you bragging about yourself or trying to insult me? Anyone else needs a decoder ring here?? What's a decoder ring and how does Todd find one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, southtown24th said: The Official Home of the NY Jets (Fans) What’s wrong with that place? I know it’s worth less than the overpass you live under but looks pretty nice to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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