jetswinbaby! Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Makes it pretty much a virtual lock that the #1 pick will be the Jet's pick... The Jets 2020 SOS is second in difficulty only to the Patriots... Many have noted that the much lower SOS of the other woeful teams (Giants,, Broncos, Falcons) that the Jets are competing with for the #1 pick makes one of those teams more likely to get it... But that is only true if the Jets finixh tied with one of those teams... The fact that the other teams have much lower SOS favors wins... The fact that the Jets have a much higher SOS favors losses... So for once, the more difficult schedule actually favors the Jets.... The Jets will almost certainly finish with the worst record... If the Jets want him, Trevor Lawrence will be ours... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, jetswinbaby! said: Makes it a pretty much a virtual lock that the #1 pick will be the Jet's pick... The Jets 2020 SOS is second in difficulty only to the Patriots... Many have noted that the much lower SOS of the other woeful teams (Giants,, Broncos, Falcons) that the Jets are competing with for the #1 pick makes one of those teams more likely to get it... But that is only true if the Jets finixh tied with one of those teams... The fact that the other teams have much lower SOS favors wins... The fact that the Jets have a much higher SOS favors losses... So for once, the more difficult schedule actually favors the Jets.... The Jets will almost certainly finish with the worst record... If the Jets want him, Trevor Lawrence will be ours... ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, jetswinbaby! said: The fact that the other teams have much lower SOS favors wins... The fact that the Jets have a much higher SOS favors losses... So for once, the more difficult schedule actually favors the Jets.... 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 tl;dr What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Yes, a harder schedule means fewer wins for a bad team. I think we are all in agreement 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 From what I can see - it really looks like Gase and the coaching staff are trying to Not Win Games! There is no ownership or GM that would put up with such an unprepared unmotivated poorly coached football team like they are putting up with right now without firing the head coach. Two years in a row horrible starts and non competitive. Any other organization would have the head coach right out the door - so if they keep Gase thru the season I have to believe something is up and Yes losing and losing every single game is the right thing to do - but then you have no choice but to fire Gase after the season. So is Gase really going along with this plan of losing knowing he will be fired at the end of the season - I can't really see that happening. So my conclusion has to be that Gase is absolutely the worst head coach I have every seen period! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 41 minutes ago, jetswinbaby! said: Makes it pretty much a virtual lock that the #1 pick will be the Jet's pick... The Jets 2020 SOS is second in difficulty only to the Patriots... Many have noted that the much lower SOS of the other woeful teams (Giants,, Broncos, Falcons) that the Jets are competing with for the #1 pick makes one of those teams more likely to get it... But that is only true if the Jets finixh tied with one of those teams... The fact that the other teams have much lower SOS favors wins... The fact that the Jets have a much higher SOS favors losses... So for once, the more difficult schedule actually favors the Jets.... The Jets will almost certainly finish with the worst record... If the Jets want him, Trevor Lawrence will be ours... You have it backwards. It doesn't work like that. The easier strength of schedule gets the higher pick. They use it as an indicator that the team with the easier schedule technically sucks more because their opponents were worse opponents. Make sense? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 If you want a high draft pick and to win tiebreakers with other teams then don't you want a weak SOS??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, jetstream23 said: If you want high draft pick and to win tiebreakers with other teams then don't you want a weak SOS??? Jets can't be tied with anyone. We need the Falcons and Giants to win to have any shot at it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: If you want high draft pick and to win tiebreakers with other teams then don't you want a weak SOS??? @JTJet laid it out perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, JTJet said: You have it backwards. It doesn't work like that. The easier strength of schedule gets the higher pick. They use it as an indicator that the team with the easier schedule technically sucks more because their opponents were worse opponents. Make sense? Yes it’s why we won’t pick 1# Even though we are the worst team in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Giants play the Eagles and Washington Whatevers twice each and were in it today. They'll find a few wins. Falcons have the Lions, Carolina, Denver, Chargers.. they'll find a couple wins. I can not find a win on the Jets schedule. Dolphins, Bills, Chiefs, Pats next 4 games will all smash this team.. After that, Chargers which will be a close game but we'll find a way to snap defeat from the jaws of victory.. Dolphins, Raiders, Seahawks, Rams, Browns and Pats to end will all smash this awful team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 JD is on pace for an 0-16 season and he still has fan boys giving him reach arounds. That's a neat trick. Not saying I want him fired, nor do I think he will be, but all these threads still blaming a GM from 2 seasons ago are starting to ring hollow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, KINGDIRK said: ? And for the 1st time watching Russel Wilson tonight I feel deep down that Darnold will never possess that capability no matter what talent we get around him, so it would be worth it to take Lawrence if we can who is a much higher blue chip prospect than Darnold was and who may be able to have that capability we all seek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Pac said: JD is on pace for an 0-16 season and he still has fan boys giving him reach arounds. That's a neat trick. Not saying I want him fired, nor do I think he will be, but all these threads still blaming a GM from 2 seasons ago are starting to ring hollow. I really don't see how building a 6-10 team makes sense(which is what you're advocating for because there was no fix offseason to make this a good team). In sports, if you're not really good or really bad, you're just spinning your wheels. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Get this guy a Nobel Prize in mathematics. It's harder to win against better teams. Brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 10 hours ago, jetswinbaby! said: Makes it pretty much a virtual lock that the #1 pick will be the Jet's pick... The Jets 2020 SOS is second in difficulty only to the Patriots... Many have noted that the much lower SOS of the other woeful teams (Giants,, Broncos, Falcons) that the Jets are competing with for the #1 pick makes one of those teams more likely to get it... But that is only true if the Jets finixh tied with one of those teams... The fact that the other teams have much lower SOS favors wins... The fact that the Jets have a much higher SOS favors losses... So for once, the more difficult schedule actually favors the Jets.... The Jets will almost certainly finish with the worst record... If the Jets want him, Trevor Lawrence will be ours... Unless...a shortened season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Pac said: Giants play the Eagles and Washington Whatevers twice each and were in it today. They'll find a few wins. Falcons have the Lions, Carolina, Denver, Chargers.. they'll find a couple wins. I can not find a win on the Jets schedule. Dolphins, Bills, Chiefs, Pats next 4 games will all smash this team.. After that, Chargers which will be a close game but we'll find a way to snap defeat from the jaws of victory.. Dolphins, Raiders, Seahawks, Rams, Browns and Pats to end will all smash this awful team. Pats will start the back-ups in the finale, Jets starters will win a close one in the final seconds, Falcons will win tiebreaker for first overall pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Sonny Werblin said: Pats will start the back-ups in the finale, Jets starters will win a close one in the final seconds, Falcons will win tiebreaker for first overall pick. This NY Jets team will not beat NE 3rd stringers or NE ghosts. No way in hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 10 hours ago, JTJet said: You have it backwards. It doesn't work like that. The easier strength of schedule gets the higher pick. They use it as an indicator that the team with the easier schedule technically sucks more because their opponents were worse opponents. Make sense? That's the point. For once the Jets have a much tougher schedule so the odds are that they will lose out, unlike the other teams who will probably find a way to win a game because their schedule is a little easier. The assumption is that Jets DON'T tie with any other team but have the worst record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Yep, see it coming now. Jets beat the resting Pats week 17 to finish with 1 win. Get the 3rd pick in the draft. Both QB's gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 11 hours ago, JTJet said: You have it backwards. It doesn't work like that. The easier strength of schedule gets the higher pick. They use it as an indicator that the team with the easier schedule technically sucks more because their opponents were worse opponents. Make sense? only if there's a tie for worst record. i am thinking the real competition might be the falcons. matty ice is getting old and clemson is pretty close to georgia. lawrence might prefer going to atlanta over the big apple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Skeet Ulrich said: I really don't see how building a 6-10 team makes sense(which is what you're advocating for because there was no fix offseason to make this a good team). In sports, if you're not really good or really bad, you're just spinning your wheels. Exactly. For once we're tanking properly and now people want to complain about it, lol. Even if Douglas didn't intend for the 2020 Jets to be THIS bad, he certainly signed a lot of 1-year deals, demonstrating this wasn't intended to be a very competitive season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: Pats will start the back-ups in the finale, Jets starters will win a close one in the final seconds, Falcons will win tiebreaker for first overall pick. Pats are not good enough to be resting starters in week 17, they'll likely be playing for a playoff spot or seeding. Jets @ home vs. Phins concerns me, especially if it's Tua's first couple of games. Chargers also concerns me, but at least we are at LA. Otherwise, 0-16 hear we come. The key will be picking the right coach before Lawerence has to declare for the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, PepPep said: That's the point. For once the Jets have a much tougher schedule so the odds are that they will lose out, unlike the other teams who will probably find a way to win a game because their schedule is a little easier. The assumption is that Jets DON'T tie with any other team but have the worst record. I get what he was trying to say I just dont see it being a tangible reason for thinking that we "got this in the bag". It's the NFL, "any given sunday" is a term for a reason, and very rarely do teams have winless seasons. The highest likelihood is that we tie with a top team, be it 0/1/2/3 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 13 hours ago, jetswinbaby! said: Makes it pretty much a virtual lock that the #1 pick will be the Jet's pick... The Jets 2020 SOS is second in difficulty only to the Patriots... Many have noted that the much lower SOS of the other woeful teams (Giants,, Broncos, Falcons) that the Jets are competing with for the #1 pick makes one of those teams more likely to get it... But that is only true if the Jets finixh tied with one of those teams... The fact that the other teams have much lower SOS favors wins... The fact that the Jets have a much higher SOS favors losses... So for once, the more difficult schedule actually favors the Jets.... The Jets will almost certainly finish with the worst record... If the Jets want him, Trevor Lawrence will be ours... Strength of schedule hurts them if they are tied for a draft pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 14 hours ago, JTJet said: You have it backwards. It doesn't work like that. The easier strength of schedule gets the higher pick. They use it as an indicator that the team with the easier schedule technically sucks more because their opponents were worse opponents. Make sense? That is true only if the other teams finish tied with the Jets. That will not happen because the Jets, with the higher SOS, cannot win even 1 game... The other bad teams will win at least 1 game because they are bound to win at least one against lower SOS opponents... What I'm saying is, because of SOS, the Jets are the only team that will finish 0-16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, jetswinbaby! said: That is true only if the other teams finish tied with the Jets. That will not happen because the Jets, with the higher SOS, cannot win even 1 game... The other bad teams will win at least 1 game because they are bound to win at least one against lower SOS opponents... What I'm saying is, because of SOS, the Jets are the only team that will finish 0-16. You are absolutely high as a kite if you think that. You as a Jets fan, should know better than to think that way. The conviction/arrogance of your belief surely just guaranteed our #2 slot in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 16 hours ago, jetswinbaby! said: Makes it pretty much a virtual lock that the #1 pick will be the Jet's pick... How long have you been a Jets fan ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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