Le’Veon Bell Hoping to be Traded? Could Join Parade of Players to Flourish Without Gase

[JetNation]

It appears Le’Veon Bell is finished carrying water for Adam Gase.  Just over a season and a quarter of heaping praise on his head coach at every opportunity, despite historically pathetic production from the Jets, and it seems Bell has had enough.  His head coach, who has led his team to six losses by 20 points or more since joining Gang Green prior to the 2019 season, has worn out his welcome.

After an offseason of promises from Gase that he would get Bell more involved in the passing game after failing to do so last year, Bell saw just one target it his return from IR in the Jets 30-10 blowout loss.  The result?  Bell refused to meet with reporters via zoom after the game, opting instead to take to social media to “like” several posts criticizing Gase’s use of the once great running back, including this from Jets beat writer Connor Hughes.

Le’Veon Bell, whom the #Jets stressed the need to involve in the passing game this season, had 1 catch on 1 target for 7 yards.

— Connor Hughes (@Connor_J_Hughes) October 11, 2020

If Bell has in fact had enough with Gase’s ineptitude and dishonesty, the team may not be able to do much about it.  His production hasn’t warranted his $13 million salary, but is that a case of Bell being bad, or of Gase being Gase?

Just look around the NFL and there’s no shortage of former Gase players who have significantly elevated their game once away from Peyton Manning’s favorite caddy.

For the fourth time this season, former Jets receiver Robby Anderson was targeted 8 times or more in a game this weekend.  In sixteen games under Gase in 2019, Anderson saw 8 targets just 4 times all season.  The result?  Anderson is currently on pace for over 1,600 yards receiving.

Then there’s Mike Gesicki.  A Dolphins tight end who was all but ignored by Gase while with the Dolphins but is now on pace for over 800 yards in 2020.  The plight of Ryan Tannehill is also well known.  After playing some decent football under Gase for a year or two with the Phins, he earned himself a mega contract with the Titans after the Dolphins sent  him packing.

Devante Parker is another receiver who comes to mind.  An average player under Gase, Parker has become one of the top receivers in the NFL following his departure.  Meanwhile, can anyone name an average player who became a superstar under the watchful eyes of Adam Gase?  The correct answer is no, but we can think of at least one player whose trajectory was pointing straight up until Gase was hired, and that’s quarterback Sam Darnold.

After looking like the future of the franchise late in his rookie season under Todd Bowles and Jeremy Bates of all people, we’re no longer seeing Darnold operate with confidence.  He’s no longer scanning the field as he once did.  He locks on to a single receiver and panics if things aren’t looking as he expects, and his body language is that of a young player with tons of questions to ask, but with nobody to answer them.

This is what Adam Gase is.  This is what he does.  It’s what he has done any time he hasn’t had Peyton Manning to carry him.  Hopefully teams realize that Bell’s lack of production is more about the talent around him and the hapless head coach who is probably cluelessly  flipping his play card from one side to another and staring blankly even as we speak.

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[Fantasy Island]

Gaze is a s#$%.  CJ likes him.  Joe likes him.  Flush em all.

[Irish Jet]

Gone next season anyways. Take whatever you can get.

[Dunnie]

Taking bets ? This guy is a teflon flim flam man if the highest order.

Gone next season anyways. Take whatever you can get.

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[heymangold]

Might as well trade bell and get whatever instead of cutting him in the off season.

[Irish Jet]

2 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

Taking bets ? This guy is a teflon flim flam man if the highest order.

 

I have no idea what this means.

[jamesr]

14 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

Taking bets ? This guy is a teflon flim flam man if the highest order.

 

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I think the post you quoted was about Bell, not Gase, being gone next year, based on his contract.

[More Cowbell]

33 minutes ago, heymangold said:

Might as well trade bell and get whatever instead of cutting him in the off season.

There would be no takers for Bell. 

[Dunnie]

Ahhhhhh my bad .. Bell should leave as soon as possible ... it is pure comedy what gase has done with him.

I think the post you quoted was about Bell, not Gase, being gone next year, based on his contract.

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[Dunnie]

Thought you were referring to our brilliant offensive mind.

I have no idea what this means.

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[predator_05]

1 hour ago, More Cowbell said:

There would be no takers for Bell. 

 

There would be. Dollar store value though. Gurley and Freeman's 1 year deals are the best case scenario. 

[Jetster]

Bell was always a mistake to bring here. You don't sign guys that take a year off voluntarily because of money. Mosely is another mistake now 2 years removed from playing in the NFL. 

The Vikings backup runner has more burst than Le'veon Bell & I never ever heard of him. Idzik & Macc left this team a dumpster fire! Gase can't coach a team that needs player development. He proved that in Miami. JD is doing the right thing based on the few assets this team even had like Adams. 

Now we know that even Herndon is a piece of crap. Wesco? Crap! Griffin? Crap. I have no idea who JD can target to coach this team but we are in a whole lot of hurt right now, worst than ever I believe & that's saying a lot with the history of this team. 

Ownership is going to HAVE TO let JD recruit a coach because there isn't one out there that will negotiate with Chris or Woody Johnson. The Jets are now a true laughing stock in the NFL, they are the Washington Generals to the rest of the NFL. Forget the butt fumble this season can only get worse. 5 games in & they've quit can you imagine if fans were in the stadium? Right now they are pretty insulated in a kind of surreal way. 

Fans use to get angry, now? Apathy. This fan base has finally been beaten down to a point where no one gives a f*ck unless a bold move comes from Joe Douglas to find a leader to coach this team after this season. Try to find a win on our schedule. In a league that barely plays defense anymore we can't even score more than 1 TD, hell we can't even push the ball downfield more that 9 yards. We look like Duke football playing Clemson. I know fans say I can't root for them to lose, this year you don't have to root, they will lose, and we don't want 1 game for these idiot owners to hang their hat on. If you want change we need to see 0-16 at the end of this season. 

 

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

3 hours ago, JetNation said:

It appears Le’Veon Bell is finished carrying water for Adam Gase.  Just over a season and a quarter of heaping praise on his head coach at every opportunity, despite historically pathetic production from the Jets, and it seems Bell has had enough.  His head coach, who has led his team to six losses by 20 points or more since joining Gang Green prior to the 2019 season, has worn out his welcome.

After an offseason of promises from Gase that he would get Bell more involved in the passing game after failing to do so last year, Bell saw just one target it his return from IR in the Jets 30-10 blowout loss.  The result?  Bell refused to meet with reporters via zoom after the game, opting instead to take to social media to “like” several posts criticizing Gase’s use of the once great running back, including this from Jets beat writer Connor Hughes.

Le’Veon Bell, whom the #Jets stressed the need to involve in the passing game this season, had 1 catch on 1 target for 7 yards.

— Connor Hughes (@Connor_J_Hughes) October 11, 2020

 

If Bell has in fact had enough with Gase’s ineptitude and dishonesty, the team may not be able to do much about it.  His production hasn’t warranted his $13 million salary, but is that a case of Bell being bad, or of Gase being Gase?

Just look around the NFL and there’s no shortage of former Gase players who have significantly elevated their game once away from Peyton Manning’s favorite caddy.

For the fourth time this season, former Jets receiver Robby Anderson was targeted 8 times or more in a game this weekend.  In sixteen games under Gase in 2019, Anderson saw 8 targets just 4 times all season.  The result?  Anderson is currently on pace for over 1,600 yards receiving.

Then there’s Mike Gesicki.  A Dolphins tight end who was all but ignored by Gase while with the Dolphins but is now on pace for over 800 yards in 2020.  The plight of Ryan Tannehill is also well known.  After playing some decent football under Gase for a year or two with the Phins, he earned himself a mega contract with the Titans after the Dolphins sent  him packing.

Devante Parker is another receiver who comes to mind.  An average player under Gase, Parker has become one of the top receivers in the NFL following his departure.  Meanwhile, can anyone name an average player who became a superstar under the watchful eyes of Adam Gase?  The correct answer is no, but we can think of at least one player whose trajectory was pointing straight up until Gase was hired, and that’s quarterback Sam Darnold.

After looking like the future of the franchise late in his rookie season under Todd Bowles and Jeremy Bates of all people, we’re no longer seeing Darnold operate with confidence.  He’s no longer scanning the field as he once did.  He locks on to a single receiver and panics if things aren’t looking as he expects, and his body language is that of a young player with tons of questions to ask, but with nobody to answer them.

This is what Adam Gase is.  This is what he does.  It’s what he has done any time he hasn’t had Peyton Manning to carry him.  Hopefully teams realize that Bell’s lack of production is more about the talent around him and the hapless head coach who is probably cluelessly  flipping his play card from one side to another and staring blankly even as we speak.

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[vic]

Shouldn’t the fan base put more constant pressure on the owners to fire Gase? After each loss his players seem more dispirited and listless.Are we purposely tanking? I can’t see any other exclamation.


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[Scott Dierking]

5 minutes ago, vic said:

Shouldn’t the fan base put more constant pressure on the owners to fire Gase? After each loss his players seem more dispirited and listless.Are we purposely tanking? I can’t see any other exclamation.


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The only benefit to firing Gase before the season is over is to get in line early for prospective head coaches before everyone else gets in line. That can be accomplished by firing Gase at week 14 or 15 as easily as now. I also want Williams to no where near in control of this team either, even if it is for a short stretch.

As well, Gase continues to serve to be the catalyst of what the goal was at the start of this season--A tank job.

[Jetster]

4 minutes ago, vic said:

Shouldn’t the fan base put more constant pressure on the owners to fire Gase? After each loss his players seem more dispirited and listless.Are we purposely tanking? I can’t see any other exclamation.


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The damage is done, whether we go 1-15, 0-16, at 0-5 we're a laughing stock, so keeping Gase guarantees more players will be disheartened, the losing will continue, fans are already apathetic so who cares at this point? 

The 10 years of atrocious drafts has truly reared its ugly head! With the injuries to JDs draft class & not having any of them to help, you are seeing the result of probably the worst 10 years of drafting EVER in this league. 

We've not only drafted badly but we've totally ignored the offensive side of the ball from Oline to WRs. And, to make matters worse, we have one of the worst defenses in the NFL & took defensive players 9 out of 10 years in the 1st round of the draft & have zero to show fòr it. Meanwhile, as fans we get to watch all around the league offensive players all around the league that fans here wanted to draft, and were available where we picked killing it. Watson, Mahomes, Dalvin Cook, DK Metcalf, the list is endless. 

This is the nadir of a bad franchise. 

[Scott Dierking]

3 minutes ago, Jetster said:

The damage is done, whether we go 1-15, 0-16, at 0-5 we're a laughing stock, so keeping Gase guarantees more players will be disheartened, the losing will continue, fans are already apathetic so who cares at this point? 

The 10 years of atrocious drafts has truly reared its ugly head! With the injuries to JDs draft class & not having any of them to help, you are seeing the result of probably the worst 10 years of drafting EVER in this league. 

We've not only drafted badly but we've totally ignored the offensive side of the ball from Oline to WRs. And, to make matters worse, we have one of the worst defenses in the NFL & took defensive players 9 out of 10 years in the 1st round of the draft & have zero to show fòr it. Meanwhile, as fans we get to watch all around the league offensive players all around the league that fans here wanted to draft, and were available where we picked killing it. Watson, Mahomes, Dalvin Cook, DK Metcalf, the list is endless. 

This is the nadir of a bad franchise. 

I said in the middle of last year that Douglas had 35 spots on the roster that needed to be upgraded in order to field a respectable football team. It just can't be done in one off-season. Impossible.

[More Cowbell]

1 hour ago, predator_05 said:

 

There would be. Dollar store value though. Gurley and Freeman's 1 year deals are the best case scenario. 

They know we are going to cut him. They will wait and sign him for nothing. 

[Sonny Werblin]

If it would fit under their cap, I think the Steelers would give a 2d round pick for Bell in a heartbeat. In fact, the Jets could probably leverage it into a 2021 #1 and 2020 #2 conditional if the Steelers win the SB.

I don't want to trade Bell, but what the hell is the point of having him if we do not use him.

[DJF71]

43 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

The only benefit to firing Gase before the season is over is to get in line early for prospective head coaches before everyone else gets in line. That can be accomplished by firing Gase at week 14 or 15 as easily as now. I also want Williams to no where near in control of this team either, even if it is for a short stretch.

As well, Gase continues to serve to be the catalyst of what the goal was at the start of this season--A tank job.

The only coach the Jets can get is a failed coach like Gase or Quinn or Hue Jackson.

[Scott Dierking]

1 minute ago, DJF71 said:

The only coach the Jets can get is a failed coach like Gase or Quinn or Hue Jackson.

Unless there is a coach that would be available that sees a mercurial talent that the Jets can select with the #1 pick.

[rangerous]

4 hours ago, JetNation said:

It appears Le’Veon Bell is finished carrying water for Adam Gase.  Just over a season and a quarter of heaping praise on his head coach at every opportunity, despite historically pathetic production from the Jets, and it seems Bell has had enough.  His head coach, who has led his team to six losses by 20 points or more since joining Gang Green prior to the 2019 season, has worn out his welcome.

After an offseason of promises from Gase that he would get Bell more involved in the passing game after failing to do so last year, Bell saw just one target it his return from IR in the Jets 30-10 blowout loss.  The result?  Bell refused to meet with reporters via zoom after the game, opting instead to take to social media to “like” several posts criticizing Gase’s use of the once great running back, including this from Jets beat writer Connor Hughes.

Le’Veon Bell, whom the #Jets stressed the need to involve in the passing game this season, had 1 catch on 1 target for 7 yards.

— Connor Hughes (@Connor_J_Hughes) October 11, 2020

 

If Bell has in fact had enough with Gase’s ineptitude and dishonesty, the team may not be able to do much about it.  His production hasn’t warranted his $13 million salary, but is that a case of Bell being bad, or of Gase being Gase?

Just look around the NFL and there’s no shortage of former Gase players who have significantly elevated their game once away from Peyton Manning’s favorite caddy.

For the fourth time this season, former Jets receiver Robby Anderson was targeted 8 times or more in a game this weekend.  In sixteen games under Gase in 2019, Anderson saw 8 targets just 4 times all season.  The result?  Anderson is currently on pace for over 1,600 yards receiving.

Then there’s Mike Gesicki.  A Dolphins tight end who was all but ignored by Gase while with the Dolphins but is now on pace for over 800 yards in 2020.  The plight of Ryan Tannehill is also well known.  After playing some decent football under Gase for a year or two with the Phins, he earned himself a mega contract with the Titans after the Dolphins sent  him packing.

Devante Parker is another receiver who comes to mind.  An average player under Gase, Parker has become one of the top receivers in the NFL following his departure.  Meanwhile, can anyone name an average player who became a superstar under the watchful eyes of Adam Gase?  The correct answer is no, but we can think of at least one player whose trajectory was pointing straight up until Gase was hired, and that’s quarterback Sam Darnold.

After looking like the future of the franchise late in his rookie season under Todd Bowles and Jeremy Bates of all people, we’re no longer seeing Darnold operate with confidence.  He’s no longer scanning the field as he once did.  He locks on to a single receiver and panics if things aren’t looking as he expects, and his body language is that of a young player with tons of questions to ask, but with nobody to answer them.

This is what Adam Gase is.  This is what he does.  It’s what he has done any time he hasn’t had Peyton Manning to carry him.  Hopefully teams realize that Bell’s lack of production is more about the talent around him and the hapless head coach who is probably cluelessly  flipping his play card from one side to another and staring blankly even as we speak.

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i'm no gase lover but articles like these are pure cherry picking.  tannehill had a really good season in his one nearly complete season with gase.  the doltfins fell off when tannehill was injured in seasons 2 and 3.    not for nothing, if tannehill was so good why was he released around the same time Gase left?  surely tannehill is/was better than fitzy or tua?

[predator_05]

42 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

They know we are going to cut him. They will wait and sign him for nothing. 

 

Still a long way to go in this season. If a playoff contending team loses their lead back, he'll definitely have a market. 

[ChuckkieB]

Gase still hasn't figured out how to use a RB who had the highest YPG average in the NFL over the previous 5 seasons.  Stunning incompetence and another example of Gase's elite career killing abilities.  If JD can get ANYTHING for Bell before he lets him walk for nothing at the end of the year - more power to him. 

[SAR I]

1 hour ago, vic said:

Shouldn’t the fan base put more constant pressure on the owners to fire Gase? After each loss his players seem more dispirited and listless.Are we purposely tanking? I can’t see any other exclamation.

The fanbase put constant pressure on the Johnson's a year ago to fire Bowles and Maccagnan.  On the grounds that they both sucked at their jobs and Maccagnan, in particular, set this franchise back years with terrible drafts producing no contributing players and no depth.

So Mr. Johnson went out and got the hottest young GM candidate in the NFL and an experienced HC from the offensive side of the ball and announced that these two were going to be focused on cleaning house, changing the culture, and turning around the franchise.

And instead of listening to their own advice about Maccagnan's damage and instead of listening to their owner's strategy about a patient rebuild, no, the entitled knee-jerkers wanted to fire their head coach after 4 games and are now turning on their GM after 1 draft and free agent period.

The fanbase got what it wanted.  A GM and HC on the same page and focused on building a solid core, starting with the lines, using the draft, no more get-rich-quick free agent schemes.  Oh, but it turns out that's not what they wanted.  The fans just want to talk that way, because that makes them sound so smart.  But what they actually want are instant results.  Too bad.  We're going it the hard way.  We're doing it the right way.  And if we lose some weak fans along the way, good, we don't need them.

SAR I

[More Cowbell]

21 minutes ago, predator_05 said:

 

Still a long way to go in this season. If a playoff contending team loses their lead back, he'll definitely have a market. 

I would say any other position, you would have a point. RB really seems like a plug and play thing. Also Bell hasn't done anything to make himself look attractive with the holdout and injuries

[section314]

To be fair, Bell was on a potential HOF career before he sat out a year with the Steelers. To say he would thrive 8 years into his career away from Gase if he does leave is absurd.

[predator_05]

6 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

I would say any other position, you would have a point. RB really seems like a plug and play thing. Also Bell hasn't done anything to make himself look attractive with the holdout and injuries

That was a while ago. He cashed in while his highlight reel was hot. Now he'll settle for one last pay-day. 

[predator_05]

10 minutes ago, section314 said:

To be fair, Bell was on a potential HOF career before he sat out a year with the Steelers. To say he would thrive 8 years into his career away from Gase if he does leave is absurd.

 

That's what some of these douchebag players don't get.

Holding out for money is fine, but if money is the only consideration, you're putting your career at risk. 

It's wiser to take a 'similar', marginally smaller deal on a good team, play out a longer career, and then cash in on a good image and reputation once everything is over. You can make good money after football as well, but for that to happen, you have to be somewhat well-behaved and principled while you're playing. 

Also, it pays to do well on a GOOD team. A guy who played for the patriots is more likely to find employment post-retirement than somebody who played for the jets. Successful players, who played on successful teams are in greater demand for speaking engagements, media gigs, book deals, coaching and front office. You're also guaranteed to have a bigger fan base that you can leverage. 

The likes of leveon bell and mike wallace will learn this lesson the hard way. They need better advisors. 

[peebag]

39 minutes ago, predator_05 said:

 

Still a long way to go in this season. If a playoff contending team loses their lead back, he'll definitely have a market. 

You don't understand...no team is going to take over the remainder of Bell's contract.  

The only way Bell gets traded is if the Jets eat part of the contract and that's not going to happen.

[More Cowbell]

46 minutes ago, predator_05 said:

That was a while ago. He cashed in while his highlight reel was hot. Now he'll settle for one last pay-day. 

Nobody is giving him a payday. He is going to get a one year deal. Anything more would be nuts

[joewilly12]

I heard this morning at the team meeting, Adam Gase asked who wants to be traded leave now and the entire team walked out of the meeting. 

[Creepy Lurker]

6 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

I heard this morning at the team meeting, Adam Gase asked who wants to be traded leave now and the entire team walked out of the meeting. 

I wish this were true haha. 

[playtowinthegame]

Trade Bell to the Rams. They pay and play to win. 

[jeremy2020]

So what you're saying is all the free agents are going to want to sign 1 year deals with the Jets to suck then go sign another 1 year deal somewhere else so they have a career year after leaving and get a monster contract?