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1996 was the last time I felt this hopeless about the team. The only thing that had me going that was season was Keywhawn, who was the number 1 overall pick. 

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2 hours ago, AFJF said:

 Tale of the tape: Kotite vs Gase

Through wk 5:

Record:

RK: 0-5

AG: 0-5

 

Offensive TDs:

RK: 6

AG: 5

 

Losses by 20+:

RK: 1

AG: 2

 

Point differential:

RK: -59

AG: -66

RK: Terrible Head Coach

AG: Offensive Genius who’s coaching where football is going

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Just now, Sammybighead said:

RK: Terrible Head Coach

AG: Offensive Genius who’s coaching where football is going

Please, "QB Guru".

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Yeah but they're practicing really hard

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4 minutes ago, JiF said:

Yeah but they're practicing really hard

Can they just televise the practices and forfeit the games? Those sound way more entertaining anyways.

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2 hours ago, AFJF said:

 Tale of the tape: Kotite vs Gase

Through wk 5:

Record:

RK: 0-5

AG: 0-5

 

Offensive TDs:

RK: 6

AG: 5

 

Losses by 20+:

RK: 1

AG: 2

 

Point differential:

RK: -59

AG: -66

A plea to SAR I, please change your banner and add this GOAT.

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19 minutes ago, Sammybighead said:

RK: Terrible Head Coach

AG: Offensive Genius who’s coaching where football is going

 

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this team is arguably worse.  Coaching was bad in 1995-96, but our problems also started at QB and Neil O'Donnell's calf injury in the tunnel.  That team, however, had some good players.  Aaron Glenn, Victor Green, Marvin Jones, Mo Lewis.  On offense, Keyshawn and Chrebet were here.  We lost a ton of games, but at least we watched some players continue to develop.  I remember discussing how our defense played hard, but they tired out because they were on the field so damn long. 

Fast forward to this year and arguably we have a competent QB, but we are so lacking on both sides of the ball.  Who are you excited to see develop these first few games besides Becton, who is now hurt?  Crowder I suppose.  But that's it on offense.  Q on defense?  Anyone else?  Our LBs and CBs are terrible.  Our pass rush is the most putrid I've seen in 40 years of watching this team.  Maye's pretty good, I suppose, but can't do it alone.  That's it.  The cupboard's bare.  

This team is worse than 1996.  Maybe the guys on IR, when they come back, will make me feel differently, but they have a lot of ground to make up on the 96 team.

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49 minutes ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said:

I went to all those home games in 1996 . This current team is far better than them .

so did I and I disagree bigly-that year that talent was improving and the team appeared to try

Kotite at least found a diamand on the rough in chrebet. what has gase found us? ballage? lol 

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7 minutes ago, Phillyjet said:

this team is arguably worse.  Coaching was bad in 1995-96, but our problems also started at QB and Neil O'Donnell's calf injury in the tunnel.  That team, however, had some good players.  Aaron Glenn, Victor Green, Marvin Jones, Mo Lewis.  On offense, Keyshawn and Chrebet were here.  We lost a ton of games, but at least we watched some players continue to develop.  I remember discussing how our defense played hard, but they tired out because they were on the field so damn long. 

Fast forward to this year and arguably we have a competent QB, but we are so lacking on both sides of the ball.  Who are you excited to see develop these first few games besides Becton, who is now hurt?  Crowder I suppose.  But that's it on offense.  Q on defense?  Anyone else?  Our LBs and CBs are terrible.  Our pass rush is the most putrid I've seen in 40 years of watching this team.  Maye's pretty good, I suppose, but can't do it alone.  That's it.  The cupboard's bare.  

This team is worse than 1996.  Maybe the guys on IR, when they come back, will make me feel differently, but they have a lot of ground to make up on the 96 team.

Arguably?  It is worse

 

Besides Keyshawn and Wayne on offense our defense was pretty bloody talented in 1996.  Hugh Douglas, Mo Lewis, Marvin Jones, Aaron Glenn, Victor Green

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2 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Arguably?  It is worse

 

Besides Keyshawn and Wayne on offense our defense was pretty bloody talented in 1996.  Hugh Douglas, Mo Lewis, Marvin Jones, Aaron Glenn, Victor Green

I think we said the same thing, excepting the arguably... 

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13 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

The ‘96 team was better

Personnel wise definitely. 2 years later they were 12-4. 

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1 hour ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said:

I went to all those home games in 1996 . This current team is far better than them .

So did I. No way in hell. 

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1 hour ago, Sammybighead said:

RK: Terrible Head Coach

AG: Offensive Genius who’s coaching where football is going

Actually with many thinking football may go extinct due to concussions issues maybe it’s true...

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7 minutes ago, docdhc said:

Personnel wise definitely. 2 years later they were 12-4. 

The same roster went 9-7 with Bill Parcells one season later.  Ofcourse they were better

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2 hours ago, AFJF said:

Let’s not forget Gase is operating in a league that’s re-writing the offensive record books.  It has never been easier to put up points.

Exactly, look at the rules that were put in since Kotite coached the Jets. Since then you can now throw the ball away when out the pocket, you can slide to protect yourself, you can't hit a QB low, or high, your defense can't blow WRs up, your safeties basically can't hit anyone. Inside Olineman can hold as long as they don't extend their arms. 

Its like night & day.

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1 hour ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said:

I went to all those home games in 1996 . This current team is far better than them .

Interested to hear why you think that.

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But he's coaching where football is going.

It's just taking him a really, really long time to get there.  Like decades!

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3 hours ago, peebag said:

Interested to hear why you think that.

1996 New York Jets Roster

 

C
Tulsa
20
RB
Penn State
85
WR
Nevada-Las Vegas
84
TE
Auburn
58
LB
Oklahoma
69
OG
New Haven
88
TE
Penn State
94
DT
Oregon
26
DB
Miami (OH)
53
LB
Wisconsin
71
DE
UCLA
80
WR
Hofstra
59
LB
Texas Christian
28
RB
Tennessee
42
DB
Texas Tech
27
RB
Rhode Island
83
TE
Virginia
99
DE
Central State
62
OG
Penn State
76
OT
Michigan
38
DB
Stanford
96
DT
Southern
4
QB
Boston College
64
OG
Tennessee
31
DB
Texas A&M
81
WR
Ohio State
21
DB
Akron
22
DB
UCLA
98
DT
Pittsburgh
92
DE
Southern Mississippi
56
LB
Central Florida
11
P
Sioux Falls
79
OT
Mississippi State
55
LB
North Carolina State
74
DT
Washington State
65
C
Auburn
19
WR
Southern California
25
DB
Texas A&M
54
LB
Florida State
95
DT
Citadel
57
LB
Georgia
8
K
Dartmouth
75
OT
Washington
32
RB
Idaho
24
DB
Texas A&M
33
RB
Pittsburg State
29
RB
West Virginia
14
QB
Maryland
70
OG
Northwestern
77
OT
Temple
7
QB
Maryland
89
WR
Florida State
5
K
Pittsburgh
87
WR
San Diego State
45
DB
Missouri
93
DT
Pittsburgh
86
WR
Nevada
97
DE
Idaho
91
DE
Toledo
73
OT
Florida
44
DB
Michigan State
23
DB
California
 
I even have a Glenn Foley jersey buried in the closet . This team was dreadful . This team had no chemistry .The current team has some possibilities . 
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4 hours ago, Philc1 said:

 

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13 minutes ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said:

1996 New York Jets Roster

 

#
Player
Pos
G
GS
Age
College
72
C
7
7
32
Tulsa
20
RB
16
13
25
Penn State
85
WR
8
0
23
Nevada-Las Vegas
84
TE
16
4
25
Auburn
58
LB
7
0
25
Oklahoma
69
OG
16
4
27
New Haven
88
TE
16
16
24
Penn State
94
DT
16
16
30
Oregon
26
DB
2
0
26
Miami (OH)
53
LB
16
8
24
Wisconsin
71
DE
15
7
26
UCLA
80
WR
16
9
23
Hofstra
59
LB
16
0
34
Texas Christian
28
RB
15
0
28
Tennessee
42
DB
13
4
22
Texas Tech
27
RB
9
0
22
Rhode Island
83
TE
2
0
24
Virginia
99
DE
10
10
25
Central State
62
OG
16
16
29
Penn State
76
OT
14
14
31
Michigan
38
DB
8
0
22
Stanford
96
DT
4
0
32
Southern
4
QB
5
3
26
Boston College
64
OG
15
8
31
Tennessee
31
DB
16
16
24
Texas A&M
81
WR
11
9
27
Ohio State
21
DB
16
16
26
Akron
22
DB
14
2
24
UCLA
98
DT
9
0
28
Pittsburgh
92
DE
15
11
25
Southern Mississippi
56
LB
15
4
26
Central Florida
11
P
16
0
36
Sioux Falls
79
OT
1
0
23
Mississippi State
55
LB
15
15
29
North Carolina State
74
DT
1
1
31
Washington State
65
C
16
0
28
Auburn
19
WR
14
11
24
Southern California
25
DB
15
15
28
Texas A&M
54
LB
12
12
24
Florida State
95
DT
1
0
22
Citadel
57
LB
9
9
27
Georgia
8
K
16
0
40
Dartmouth
75
OT
4
1
27
Washington
32
RB
8
0
23
Idaho
24
DB
15
10
23
Texas A&M
33
RB
16
0
26
Pittsburg State
29
RB
16
16
26
West Virginia
14
QB
6
6
30
Maryland
70
OG
16
16
24
Northwestern
77
OT
1
0
28
Temple
7
QB
10
7
34
Maryland
89
WR
1
0
24
Florida State
5
K
12
0
27
Pittsburgh
87
WR
10
1
32
San Diego State
45
DB
2
0
31
Missouri
93
DT
15
5
26
Pittsburgh
86
WR
15
1
22
Nevada
97
DE
14
14
31
Idaho
91
DE
5
0
32
Toledo
73
OT
14
14
30
Florida
44
DB
15
0
33
Michigan State
23
DB
10
1
24
CIalifornia
I even have a Glenn Foley jersey buried in the closet . This team was dreadful . The current team has some possibilities . 

Murrell was another good offensive player on that 1996 team.  Gets overshadowed because of Curtis Martin

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20 minutes ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said:

I even have a Glenn Foley jersey buried in the closet . This team was dreadful . This team had no chemistry .The current team has some possibilities . 

That 96 team went 9-7 the following year and contained the nucleus of the team that went to AFC championship in '98.

You can't tell me that this current roster with a few additions will be putting out a winning record next year and then vying to go to a Super Bowl in 2 years.

That's crazy talk.

 

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3 minutes ago, peebag said:

That 96 team went 9-7 the following year and contained the nucleus of the team that went to AFC championship in '98.

You can't tell me that this current roster with a few additions will be putting out a winning record next year and then vying to go to a Super Bowl in 2 years.

That's crazy talk.

 

Without Gase , anything is possible .

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