heymangold Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, JTJet said: Reid may very well hold the gravitas I agree, but this is no different than the 10 people under Belicheck that all rode his coat tails. His name has come up the last 2 hiring cycles and he got passed on, even after they won the SB, that tells me that he is bombing the interviews. I have no doubt he is getting exposed during the hiring process to a lot of GMs/Owners. True - I can see that point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, jgb said: I prefer a guy who doesn’t suck his whole career until paired with an MVP-caliber QB that was already balling before he arrived. Yeah, except thats not totally true. Funny fact, I always was pro Wilson, was told he wasn't that good, that he was a product of Lynch Now hes the reason hes having his best season under Shotty. Under Bevel, similar yardage with a 95 QBR. Under Shotty, well over 100 each season. Shottys done a good job in Seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Yeah, except thats not totally true. Funny fact, I always was pro Wilson, was told he wasn't that good, that he was a product of Lynch Now hes the reason hes having his best season under Shotty. Under Bevel, similar yardage with a 95 QBR. Under Shotty, well over 100 each season. Shottys done a good job in Seattle. Schotty has shown he can win with an utterly fangnasty squad after being harangued into opening things up. We ain’t got that. Give me a dude who is doing better than expected with trash. That’s the skill set we need. But anyways my top pick is Gregg Roman. But he ain’t coming here because he will have other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 43 minutes ago, jgb said: Schotty has shown he can win with an utterly fangnasty squad after being harangued into opening things up. We ain’t got that. Give me a dude who is doing better than expected with trash. That’s the skill set we need. But anyways my top pick is Gregg Roman. But he ain’t coming here because he will have other options. Thats so bad. I can say that about anyone. I can also say this. Given Sanchez, an early Sanchez, with Rex wanting ground and pound he ran a surprisingly good defense looking back. I will say one more thing. We have no idea how an OC will do as a HC. All I said is I would bring him in for an interview and didnt know if he had what it takes to be a HC. You can like Gregg Roman, I dont want a run 1st HC in this day and age. Why I would take Dabol over Roman for whatever thats worth, which isnt a whole lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Thats so bad. I can say that about anyone. I can also say this. Given Sanchez, an early Sanchez, with Rex wanting ground and pound he ran a surprisingly good defense looking back. I will say one more thing. We have no idea how an OC will do as a HC. All I said is I would bring him in for an interview and didnt know if he had what it takes to be a HC. You can like Gregg Roman, I dont want a run 1st HC in this day and age. Why I would take Dabol over Roman for whatever thats worth, which isnt a whole lot You mean Bills OC? Yeah, not a terrible idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, jgb said: You mean Bills OC? Yeah, not a terrible idea. Yeah, hes coached here and has really done a great job with Allen. If we were to move onto Lawrence I really would want him here to develop the kid. He has a lot of Allens traits without the issues Allen had coming out If we took Fields, that could be a completely different story. Then I would be more interested in Roman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Thats so bad. I can say that about anyone. I can also say this. Given Sanchez, an early Sanchez, with Rex wanting ground and pound he ran a surprisingly good defense looking back. I will say one more thing. We have no idea how an OC will do as a HC. All I said is I would bring him in for an interview and didnt know if he had what it takes to be a HC. You can like Gregg Roman, I dont want a run 1st HC in this day and age. Why I would take Dabol over Roman for whatever thats worth, which isnt a whole lot Thats why I liked Kubiak, he was a head coach, and I have always liked his type of offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, chirorob said: Thats why I liked Kubiak, he was a head coach, and I have always liked his type of offense. Hes got health issues regardless of styles I was surprised he came back to coach and offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Skeet Ulrich said: A. The brothers Johnson would never in a million years pay him what he'd need to leave Michigan B. He'd want total control to come here, never a good idea. C. He's one of the most overrated coaches in modern history. c. wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 51 minutes ago, HessStation said: c. wrong Are you going to hand-wave away him routinely being outcoached because it's college? Maybe he'll finish higher than third in the B1G this year. Doubt it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 hire him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Hate to say it but Kubiak does sound like exactly the type of hire the Jets would make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, heymangold said: I’m talking bieniemy - I quoted your post on schitty by accident! Thank God you almost made me pop my cherry on the old ignore list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Skeet Ulrich said: Are you going to hand-wave away him routinely being outcoached because it's college? Maybe he'll finish higher than third in the B1G this year. Doubt it though. yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 6 hours ago, rangerous said: Didn’t he have some sort of a breakdown? If he had a breakdown in a laid back place like Denver just how will he fair in a pressure cooker like ny? He has health issues. No way does he want another HC job let alone working in NYC for the lucky sperm club 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, jgb said: Hate to say it but Kubiak does sound like exactly the type of hire the Jets would make. Brian Schottenheimer or Josh McDaniels in 2 years book it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: Brian Schottenheimer or Josh McDaniels in 2 years book it You are probably right. I choose to hate you for that. But it's not personal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 7:18 PM, JTJet said: @heymangold @carlito1171 I see you fine gentlemen disagree. I challenge you, make your case for Bienemy without using the following... -Playbook (Andy Reids playbook) -Play Calling (Andy Reids until this season) -Mahomes QB development (Andy Reids tutelage) The one time Bienemy was a college OC responsible for the play calling, his teams blew nuts. He gets coffee for Reid and Mahomes while they gameplan, that's all. What made Doug Pederson and Matt Nagy more qualified then Bieniemy when they were hired to become an HC? It used to be that he wasnt an OC long enough....now hes on his 3rd year on the job I'm not saying I think he would be a slam dunk hire or anything. I just think he should get the same chance to show his chops as an HC that both of his predecessors have gotten. Doesn't even have to be with the Jets but he should get a shot somewhere around the league...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 If the Texans gave him a stroke... ...the Jets will kill him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 DaBolllllll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Jet Nut should get an interview. He's a master motivater. And every move and decision he'd make would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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