Scott Dierking Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: How many number 1's dont go to the team that picked them? Elway had baseball and used the threat of going to the Yankees to get his rights traded Eli? Who said Eli wouldn't have played in SD? If they didnt have the Giants and a Rivers trade available to them SD would have held firm and then what, Eli would have pouted and what, sat out? Yeah, right. I remember when Jim Kelly told everyone he wouldn't play for the Bills if they drafted him. QBs go first. To bad teams. Happens every year. And oh, the perils of a young, seemingly outgoing individual being thrust into the media capital of the world of NY. The horror. If you hate it, you play out your five years, take your $25m and say "thank you very much, goodbye". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Scott Dierking said: And oh, the perils of a young, seemingly outgoing individual being thrust into the media capital of the world of NY. The horror. If you hate it, you play out your five years, take your $25m and say "thank you very much, goodbye". It used to be the allure of NYC and the payoffs available playing in this market. Now we're somehow the worst destination in the NFL. Woe is me, the pain 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, Jet Nut said: It used to be the allure of NYC and the payoffs available playing in this market. Now we're somehow the worst destination in the NFL. Woe is me, the pain Joe Namath absolutely abhorred coming to the Jets. Derailed his career. Listen, every athlete is not made for NY. But, the little that I have seen Lawrence, he seems built for the spotlight, and wants to thrive in that environment. If he were to turn around the Jets, he could be propelled to God like status. If not, he is just one o many that tried. If you are worth your salt, you let that reward overshadow the risk. If not, we probably did not want him here any way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Who are we beating? The dolphins are the only team where we might have a shot at victory. Possibly chargers, but if you watched the game last night, you know jets have no shot. My bet is already in. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: Honestly, I don't want to see that. That is a hard pill for me to swallow. I would rather win a few games. I always looked at 0-16 as am embarrassing season. I know we want Lawrence here but if we are that bad, how is Lawrence going to do any better than Sam. If we are going to win in the neighborhood of two or three games, we might as well win zero, IMHO. And it would put us in our own league for Lawrence. Don't think there have ever been two winless teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: Who are we beating? The dolphins are the only team where we might have a shot at victory. Possibly chargers, but if you watched the game last night, you know jets have no shot. My bet is already in. You now have my interested in all your activities. Can you post your fantasy squad here and talk about them incessantly. kid pictures in sports? Please share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 It's always darkest before the dawn. The Jets need to fire Adam Gase and draft Trevor Lawrence #1 overall. I don't care whether the team goes 0-16, 1-15, or 2-14 as long as they are in position to execute those moves. The team needs a complete culture change. A brilliant offensive mind and a generational quarterback would be the ideal start to a new era for this franchise. Things looks rather bleak right now, but things can change very quickly in a league full of parity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: True, because through 5 games the teams we've played have better winning percentages. When we start losing to lousy teams that will flip ALSO true, as we will beat out the Falcons by .008 percent (start of year) It might not take 16 losses, as the Giants have a fairly easy schedule later on. However, we would probably have to lose as much as the Falcons, because they would most definitely pick Lawrence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, jgb said: That’s undoubtedly where he wants to go. What do you do if you are JD and Jets draft Lawrence and he says “trade me or eff off?” Hardball or ship him out for the best haul you can get? I make sure they draft Fields and trade me a couple #1’s with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: Honestly, I don't want to see that. That is a hard pill for me to swallow. I would rather win a few games. I always looked at 0-16 as am embarrassing season. I know we want Lawrence here but if we are that bad, how is Lawrence going to do any better than Sam. I have always been against rooting for the Jets to lose. Even when it is a meaningless game. Last game of the year, lose and move up in the draft I have fought against Jets fans rooting against the team. Why? Because the goal is to get better. QB gets better, coach gets better. Winning is a mentality. This year is different though. The entire team is on a one-year contract for the most part. The entire staff is getting fired. Gase and the offense yes. But it seems like even Williams will be fired, no way you could bring him back. So I won't root for them to lose. But the pain is legit gone. I watch and it is just like whatever. Fix the coaching staff. Fix the roster and I will invest again next year. Right now I just watch and shake my head. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: You now have my interested in all your activities. Can you post your fantasy squad here and talk about them incessantly. kid pictures in sports? Please share. No need to be a faggot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 38 minutes ago, Maxman said: I have always been against rooting for the Jets to lose. Even when it is a meaningless game. Last game of the year, lose and move up in the draft I have fought against Jets fans rooting against the team. Why? Because the goal is to get better. QB gets better, coach gets better. Winning is a mentality. This year is different though. The entire team is on a one-year contract for the most part. The entire staff is getting fired. Gase and the offense yes. But it seems like even Williams will be fired, no way you could bring him back. So I won't root for them to lose. But the pain is legit gone. I watch and it is just like whatever. Fix the coaching staff. Fix the roster and I will invest again next year. Right now I just watch and shake my head. Welcome to the dark side. We've been waiting for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, kmnj said: how many times does it need to be said-the jets did not try to extend him and wanted to let him test the market-he did-the jets initially wanted to give robby -9-10 he wanted 13-14 panthers stepped in and that was all she wrote Right, the Jets wanted to give him 9 or 10, he wanted 13 or 14. The Panthers stepped in and gave him 10 for 1 or 2 seasons, I forget the actual term. The Jets offered 10 over 4 years. The Jets offer was better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Warfish said: Yes, of course I do. I root for wins every Sunday. It is my belief that rooting for losses for draft position is a fools folly. And it creates as toxic a fanbase as can be if it's done regularly, which here, it has. I think the losses create the toxicity. Not the rooting for losses. That's just silly. As if people hoping for wins are going to keep things positive here, lol. It's actually the exact opposite. It's the people who had high hopes for the season that are making the board unreadable, for the most part. They're the ones constantly making the Robby Anderson threads and demanding Joe Douglas get fired after one draft. Fun stuff, fellas! Rooting for losses has been the most fun thing about this season so far. I don't want this team to just be bad. I want it to be historically bad. A team people talk about for decades, like the '76 Buccaneers. We're going to continue to suck either way so might as well be the best at it! Maybe that will finally be what it takes for the Johnson's to take a step back and let football people make football decisions. Don't be a buzzkill for a season that's already been an enormous buzzkill for so many. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, CTJetsFan said: No, I don't want to see it happen If I at least get to see Sam play games like he did at the end of his rookie season vs GB and Houston and they still lose, then no, I won't care if they go 0-16. 2020 will be a complete waste if the young guys JD drafted and brought in don't get experience and we still don't know what Sam is. However, if we do end up with the #1 pick, I think you have to take Lawrence regardless. If you still "don't know" what Sam is after 3 years in the league and about 40 starts, you really DO know. He isn't the guy. QB's prove they're a franchise QB much quicker than they did in years past. It doesn't take that long to determine if a guy doesn't have it. Darnold doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Irish Jet said: It's a record few GM's or coaches can manage to get on their résumé and zero have survived. Given I think Douglas should at the very least be on the hot seat it would be good to have a record that highlights his unprecedented situation. He's going to get at least 4 drafts. He's not going to be on the hot seat after this season. Not even lukewarm. But by all means continue to hope for something that just isn't going to be close to reality, I guess! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 55 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: No need to be a faggot @joewilly12 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsMetsDevilsPA Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: Trevor Lawrence isn’t coming here I don't think he is coming here either. At least if there is not a new head coach. He will look at Gase and see what happened to Sam. No way in hell I would come here without someone else running the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I'd like to avoid 0-16, and since 1-15 should still get us the number 1 pick, I'm hoping for an upset win against the Dolphins (probably later in the season at home). Beyond that, whatever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: He's going to get at least 4 drafts. He's not going to be on the hot seat after this season. Not even lukewarm. But by all means continue to hope for something that just isn't going to be close to reality, I guess! Isn't this every day for a Jets fan? And I know he will. It's the Johnson's. Their incompetence is legendary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Yes... I HOPE they do. 1. Trevor Lawrence 2. Gase is gone. 3. There may be such blow-back from the fans, that Johnson gets his head out of his ass and lets a pro run the team without any interference... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: Who are we beating? The dolphins are the only team where we might have a shot at victory. Possibly chargers, but if you watched the game last night, you know jets have no shot. My bet is already in. What site is that ? ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I dont care per say but I want it to happen because I think it just adds to the beautiful story of ineptitude that is the New York Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: If you still "don't know" what Sam is after 3 years in the league and about 40 starts, you really DO know. He isn't the guy. QB's prove they're a franchise QB much quicker than they did in years past. It doesn't take that long to determine if a guy doesn't have it. Darnold doesn't. I get it that you've given up on Darnold.....that's evident by your posts. I can understand your position, but I don't agree with it. My opinion is it has been impossible to do a fair evaluation of him based on the supporting cast the last 2 years and Gase's incompetence. I know you disagree. That's fine. Just look at the article that was posted yesterday about his perceived trade value around the league and some of the comments. I still hold out hope of getting at least an 8-10 game sample this year with most of the skill position players (including Becton) healthy. That doesn't eliminate the Gase factor, but it helps level the playing field a bit. It is also possible that Darnold has been damaged beyond repair, at least with this franchise, and they need to move on. I hope not but I acknowledge that it is now a possibility (as unfortunate as that may be). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 At this point I want 0-16. The GM wanted a tear down - He got what we wanted. Let’s give him the chance to start his rebuild with the best possible assets. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: Trevor Lawrence isn’t coming here He’s a religious kid and doesn’t come across at that type of person. He’s made no indication he wouldn’t play for a team nor has he shown any type of Me First personality. I’m certainly not in his head but there’s ZERO reason to believe he’ll do what almost no one has ever done. He, of course, may end up not wanting to come here but there’s no indication whatsoever that he won’t. It’s just the self-hating Jet fan in you that has you thinking that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, peebag said: @joewilly12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I do care because if we go out and win one game that's just like every other Jets season. We'll still be a joke, media will and should crush us, friends family, neighbors will still make fun of us but 0-16. I think that would be a different animal. We're used to getting sh*t on because we're Jets fans but 0-16 will be like never before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: What site is that ? ? Draftkings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: It used to be the allure of NYC and the payoffs available playing in this market. Now we're somehow the worst destination in the NFL. Woe is me, the pain That was before the internet was a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I would prefer 1-15 to avoid that all time suck ridicule, but if we need to go 0-16 for Lawrence--sign me up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 40 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: Isn't this every day for a Jets fan? And I know he will. It's the Johnson's. Their incompetence is legendary. Yet you actually want them to dump, by far, the highest-caliber GM candidate they've had in decades (and certainly since the Johnson's started owning the team) after 1 draft so they can go hire the next Mike Maccagnan. Simply stunning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 50 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: If you still "don't know" what Sam is after 3 years in the league and about 40 starts, you really DO know. He isn't the guy. QB's prove they're a franchise QB much quicker than they did in years past. It doesn't take that long to determine if a guy doesn't have it. Darnold doesn't. If you put Mahomes on Wake Forest and had him play against pro teams, he wouldn't win either. That is pretty much what Darnold is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yet you actually want them to dump, by far, the highest-caliber GM candidate they've had in decades (and certainly since the Johnson's started owning the team) after 1 draft so they can go hire the next Mike Maccagnan. Simply stunning. Honestly, why makes him so good? Drafting an OL and WR at 1 and 2? WR hasn't been played a down and the season is close to half over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yet you actually want them to dump, by far, the highest-caliber GM candidate they've had in decades (and certainly since the Johnson's started owning the team) after 1 draft so they can go hire the next Mike Maccagnan. Simply stunning. Has done literally nothing to prove he’s high caliber at all. Has been all reputation thus far with no substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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