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1 minute ago, jgb said:

All these machinations and effort to bomb the franchise to get Lawrence. If he leaves us on the altar...  then what?

We laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh.....

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6 minutes ago, Nixhead said:

Bell looked decent on Sunday but the Jets get rid of their decent players so this is very Jets like. I’m happy for Bell. If I was him I’d want out of the Jets mess also. 

Agree. Still no idea why Gase didn't call wheel routes and dump offs the Bell. That's his bread and butter and would give Darnold a sure-handed safety valve.

Very strange. I guess Gase would rather have "Was right about Bell" than "Winning football coach" on his CV.

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1 hour ago, jgb said:

Agree. Still no idea why Gase didn't call wheel routes and dump offs the Bell. That's his bread and butter and would give Darnold a sure-handed safety valve.

Very strange. I guess Gase would rather have "Was right about Bell" than "Winning football coach" on his CV.

Gase suggested that Arizona were doing stuff to take that away.

Isn't that what a genius OC should be able to adjust to??

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2 minutes ago, jamesr said:

Gase suggested that Arizona were doing stuff to take that away.

Isn't that what a genius OC should be able to adjust to??

They were taking that away but those runs up the gut were ripe for the plucking!!

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2 hours ago, kevinc855 said:

He looked good on Sunday....but jd is on a mission to rid this team of any talent it has apparently 

I don’t think it’s JD - it’s Gase. The same thing happened in Miami, Gase got rid of the “top” talent and had “his” guys there.  Look at how that’s worked out so far.

This fcked up power structure allows that snake to bypass JD and go straight to the incompetent owner who will do whatever Gase says because he thinks Gase is the messiah of football.  It’s utterly ridiculous how this team works.

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3 minutes ago, heymangold said:

I don’t think it’s JD - it’s Gase. The same thing happened in Miami, Gase got rid of the “top” talent and had “his” guys there.  Look at how that’s worked out so far.

This fcked up power structure allows that snake to bypass JD and go straight to the incompetent owner who will do whatever Gase says because he thinks Gase is the messiah of football.  It’s utterly ridiculous how this team works.

I don’t think JD got a 6 year deal

and that money to get by passed 

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4 hours ago, AFJF said:

Played all of 2019 behind the worst OL in the NFL.  Was hit in the backfield more than any other RB per PFF IIRC.

His first full game behind the new OL and he averaged 4.6 YPC, making it his best avg YPC since signing with the Jets.

So of course they cut him to make room for more Frank Gore and Adam Gase keeps his job.

He's a guy who will avg 4 ypc but that's not what he was signed for. He was signed to be the best HB in the Nfl and that skill set is not there anymore. He's noticeably slower. He can't get around the edge anymore bc of it and he can't get thru the hole quick enough to break off big gains. That's easy to see each week. He can still make people miss so he'll be serviceable but he's no longer a star in this league. 

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36 minutes ago, heymangold said:

I don’t think it’s JD - it’s Gase. The same thing happened in Miami, Gase got rid of the “top” talent and had “his” guys there.  Look at how that’s worked out so far.

This fcked up power structure allows that snake to bypass JD and go straight to the incompetent owner who will do whatever Gase says because he thinks Gase is the messiah of football.  It’s utterly ridiculous how this team works.

Jay Ajayi didn't get on with Gase and got traded ... won a SB with Philly.

Miami drafted him then brought in Arian Foster who got the starts ahead of him ... Ajayi was "disgruntled" by this but ended up getting the starting job back due to an injury to Foster. Recorded THREE 200 yard games including two back to back. Made the Pro Bowl that year.

Midway through the following season they traded him to Philly for a 4th rounder.

Gase ... disgruntled running backs ... the two seem synonymous.

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43 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

I don’t think JD got a 6 year deal

and that money to get by passed 

The Johnsons love to play king. Sit on throne, let the peasants come before them and plead their case and then make a big show of choosing which to favor.

The back-biting, back-stabbing, leaks, drama, intrigue... sounds like the court of Henry VIII, not a modern professional organization.

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1 hour ago, kevinc855 said:

I don’t think JD got a 6 year deal

and that money to get by passed 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/06/08/report-jets-doubled-offer-to-joe-douglas-will-pay-more-than-3-million-a-year/

Why did a week pass before news broke that Joe Douglas was the favorite to be named the G.M. of the Jets and the announcement that they’d finally hired him? It may be that the Jets initially tried to lowball Douglas with their initial contract offer.

Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News reports that the Jets initially offered Douglas $1.5 million a year but ended up more than doubling that. Douglas has signed a six-year deal worth more than $3 million a year.

The Jets ultimately got their man, so it all worked out in the end, but lowballing their first-choice candidate for arguably the most important job in the franchise seems unwise. Douglas already had a good job with a good franchise, the Eagles, and trying to pay him below market rate could have turned him off to the Jets and made him decide to stay in Philadelphia.

Now Douglas has a six-year deal, which should make him feel secure that he’ll have the time to build the Jets’ roster his way.

 

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1 hour ago, jamesr said:

Jay Ajayi didn't get on with Gase and got traded ... won a SB with Philly.

Miami drafted him then brought in Arian Foster who got the starts ahead of him ... Ajayi was "disgruntled" by this but ended up getting the starting job back due to an injury to Foster. Recorded THREE 200 yard games including two back to back. Made the Pro Bowl that year.

Midway through the following season they traded him to Philly for a 4th rounder.

Gase ... disgruntled running backs ... the two seem synonymous.

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Does Douglas have naked pics of Christopher Johnson?

Seriously.  How does Douglas walking into CJ's office and say, "That HOF caliber talent you paid a fortune to hates the coach, the offense and the organization so we're just going let him go because I can't even trade him for a bag of dicks right now.  Just write it off like an Enron or Madoff type investment I guess."

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3 hours ago, choon328 said:

He's a guy who will avg 4 ypc but that's not what he was signed for. He was signed to be the best HB in the Nfl and that skill set is not there anymore. He's noticeably slower. He can't get around the edge anymore bc of it and he can't get thru the hole quick enough to break off big gains. That's easy to see each week. He can still make people miss so he'll be serviceable but he's no longer a star in this league. 

Are the guys that we are replacing him with stars in this league?

3 hours ago, jamesr said:

Jay Ajayi didn't get on with Gase and got traded ... won a SB with Philly.

Miami drafted him then brought in Arian Foster who got the starts ahead of him ... Ajayi was "disgruntled" by this but ended up getting the starting job back due to an injury to Foster. Recorded THREE 200 yard games including two back to back. Made the Pro Bowl that year.

Midway through the following season they traded him to Philly for a 4th rounder.

Gase ... disgruntled running backs ... the two seem synonymous.

I don't see how Jay Ajayi is some cautionary tale about how Gase is bad with running backs.  Jay Ajayi had THREE 200 yard games for Gase.  He has never had a hundred yard game for any other coach. People act like he was the one that Gase let get away, but Ajayi got less carries under Pederson than Josh Adams (yes, that Josh Adams), Corey Clement, Wendell Smallwood, Jordan Howard, and Boston Scott.  

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