Sam will want out soon

[kevinc855]

This franchise is destroying him. There is no way he can get a fair evaluation this season. JD has seemed fit to get rid of Robby and Bell. He swang and missed on any offensive weapons in his draft picks. The defense has also been taken  down to make us a joke. There are also rumors we are shopping crowder??

I don’t know what the heck JD plan is here. He has put himself in a real gambling man spot. When you burn it all down like this you better draft like a god dang genius or your in trouble.

Sam will say the right things but you know deep inside he is wondering what is going on and why in his 3rd year they do this to him. 

[AFJF]

Who says he doesn't want out now?

[jgb]

Trevor Lawrence is watching and taking notes

[heymangold]

Should trade him to a team like the 9ers now.

[Irish Jet]

I doubt there's anyone on the team who doesn't.

[SR24]

Would love to see him request a trade would be hilarious 

[kevinc855]

7 minutes ago, jgb said:

Trevor Lawrence is watching and taking notes

Trevor is to smart. If we get one, he’s staying in college much like manning did. 

[heymangold]

6 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Trevor is to smart. If we get one, he’s staying in college much like manning did. 

He’s not staying in college.  The team will have a new HC to his liking.  

[kevinc855]

1 minute ago, heymangold said:

He’s not staying in college.  The team will have a new HC to his liking.  

With zero weapons and incompetent ownership? Don’t see it

[Biggs]

Based on the board lots of Jets fans want him out right now. 

[heymangold]

Just now, kevinc855 said:

With zero weapons and incompetent ownership? Don’t see it

Ok.

[jgb]

4 minutes ago, heymangold said:

He’s not staying in college.  The team will have a new HC to his liking.  

I’d give him a say in who we hired. Gonna have to butter this kid’s biscuit good to avoid spooking him 

[heymangold]

 

 

[Smashmouth]

What Sam does not know is no one wants him 

[kevinc855]

8 minutes ago, jgb said:

I’d give him a say in who we hired. Gonna have to butter this kid’s biscuit good to avoid spooking him 

He may be a good football player but I’m not letting a 21 year old pick a head coach 

[jgb]

1 hour ago, kevinc855 said:

He may be a good football player but I’m not letting a 21 year old pick a head coach 

Didn't say pick. But make him feel important enough to ask his opinion. I mean I prefer the Jets just throw a ton of money at Dabo. But it won't happen for several reasons. #1 Dabo prefers to be King of Death Valley than the Jester of the North Jersey Swamp. #2 Johnsons will never be willing to pay more than he makes at Clemson, anyway.

[Butterfield]

20 minutes ago, heymangold said:

 

 

“Planning.”

[Butterfield]

16 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

He may be a good football player but I’m not letting a 21 year old pick a head coach 

He won’t come to the Jets anyway.  He either acts like Peyton and refuses to enter the draft or like Eli and is asked to be traded.  

[choon328]

The Jets are projected to have $76 million in cap space next year (2nd most in the NFL) at a time when 9 teams are going to be over the projected cap by at least $5 million. They'll have at least 5 picks in the top 3 rounds with at worst a top 5 pick.  This will be an attractive place for a HC candidate bc of all of those things I mentioned.  

 

There are some intriguing WR options that could be available in FA:

Kenny Golladay

Smith-Schuster

Chris Godwin

 

The Jets need to come out of FA with at least 1 of those WRs above.

All of this is to say i think with the picks and the money available the Jets can make a huge jump next year if, and it's a big if,  they can get the QB position right. At this point Darnold is an injury waiting to happen and has not played well enough to overlook those injuries.  His issues aren't all bc of the talent around him. A lot of those issues stem from being inaccurate and making bad decisions. If the Jets get the #1 pick its an easy decision, if they don't its not so easy.

[heymangold]

Trevor Lawrence isn’t going to risk going back to college, getting hurt and losing out on the payday that being the #1 overall pick gets.  It isn’t going to happen. Stop with the thought of it, it’s ridiculous.  

Manning did it because Parcells wouldn’t commit to drafting him 1st overall in 1997, 23 years ago.

Eli made a power play that worked out for everyone.  I don’t see that ever happening again. 

[OilfieldJet]

35 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

He may be a good football player but I’m not letting a 21 year old pick a head coach 

The 21 year old has better football judgement than the Johnson brothers. 

[jgb]

9 minutes ago, heymangold said:

Trevor Lawrence isn’t going to risk going back to college, getting hurt and losing out on the payday that being the #1 overall pick gets.  It isn’t going to happen. Stop with the thought of it, it’s ridiculous.  

Manning did it because Parcells wouldn’t commit to drafting him 1st overall in 1997, 23 years ago.

Eli made a power play that worked out for everyone.  I don’t see that ever happening again. 

I know I'm on the right track as soon as someone on JN calls my concerns "ridiculous." Now if you said it was "impossible," then I'd rush to go bet on it ASAP.  

No, I think realistic Jets fans recognize this is an actual risk. No one is guaranteeing it, but it's prudent for Jets fans to start to prepare themselves for the possibility.

[heymangold]

Just now, jgb said:

Every time my opinion has been called "ridiculous" on JN, it's been proven correct.

No, I think realistic Jets fans recognize this is an actual risk. No one is guaranteeing it, but you've got your head in the sand if you think it cannot happen to us.

I mean it can literally happen to any team, yes.  In today’s NFL players are all about financial security with the least amount of risk.  Look at Dak.  He wanted a long term deal, didn’t get it and now suffers a horrific injury.  A guy that has done pretty much everything in college that is a shoe-in for the first overall pick, in this day and age, I can’t see going back to college to risk it all.  I’m not disagreeing with you that it COULD happen, I just strongly think it won’t.

[jgb]

7 minutes ago, heymangold said:

I mean it can literally happen to any team, yes.  In today’s NFL players are all about financial security with the least amount of risk.  Look at Dak.  He wanted a long term deal, didn’t get it and now suffers a horrific injury.  A guy that has done pretty much everything in college that is a shoe-in for the first overall pick, in this day and age, I can’t see going back to college to risk it all.  I’m not disagreeing with you that it COULD happen, I just strongly think it won’t.

Dak actually proves my point that some guys don't make purely economic rational choices.

And there are more ways to dodge the Jets than back to school. Tell them you ain't signing a deal with them no matter what to try and force a trade (the Eli) is one example.

PS: I also think it's unlikely as in <50%. But it isn't 0% either. I'd actually estimate it at a low double digit percentage. 15-20% somewhere in that range. But growing with each new embarrassment.

[Embrace the Suck]

 

[Creepy Lurker]

13 minutes ago, OilfieldJet said:

The 21 year old has better football judgement than the Johnson brothers. 

So does my microwave. 

[jgb]

I wonder what odds you could've gotten had you bet that Sam Darnold would last for less time as QB of NYJ than Woody would as ambassador to the UK. Rumors are he asked if he needed language classes before taking the post.

[bealeb319]

Swung and missed on all of his offensive weapons in the draft? This was his first draft and we drafted mims who we haven't even seen play yet? A little premature?

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[bealeb319]

Also I have not seen any rumors that the Jets are shopping crowder though at 0-5 it might be wise for them to start doing it.

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[More Cowbell]

1 hour ago, SR24 said:

Would love to see him request a trade would be hilarious 

He won't request a trade but probably asks for a huge deal to force FA. 

[kevinc855]

3 minutes ago, bealeb319 said:

Swung and missed on all of his offensive weapons in the draft? This was his first draft and we drafted mims who we haven't even seen play yet? A little premature?

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What player from this draft has made a difference for the team? I’m still Amazed we took a qb in the 4th. I can’t even remember his name and I’m a big jets fan 

[carlito1171]

1 hour ago, kevinc855 said:

This franchise is destroying him. There is no way he can get a fair evaluation this season. JD has seemed fit to get rid of Robby and Bell. He swang and missed on any offensive weapons in his draft picks. The defense has also been taken  down to make us a joke. There are also rumors we are shopping crowder??

I don’t know what the heck JD plan is here. He has put himself in a real gambling man spot. When you burn it all down like this you better draft like a god dang genius or your in trouble.

Sam will say the right things but you know deep inside he is wondering what is going on and why in his 3rd year they do this to him. 

I hear you but the reality is JD has no choice but to burn this thing down....he’s taking over for an all-time terrible GM....

TBH if he’s not given the autonomy to oversee the Coaching staff it’s only a matter of time before he’s next to get clipped...The Johnsons are retarded and don’t understand the conflict of interest that is created when you keep arranging these shotgun marriages with GM and HC 

[TuscanyTile2]

50 minutes ago, Butterfield said:

“Planning.”

Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face........or are at risk of getting drafted by the Jets.

[Waka Flocka Flacco]

14 minutes ago, jgb said:

Dak actually proves my point that some guys don't make purely economic rational choices.

And there are more ways to dodge the Jets than back to school. Tell them you ain't signing a deal with them no matter what to try and force a trade (the Eli) is one example.

PS: I also think it's unlikely as in <50%. But it isn't 0% either. I'd actually estimate it at a low double digit percentage. 15-20% somewhere in that range. But growing with each new embarrassment.

Prescott has nothing to do with anything. It's easy to say screw the security when that entails banking 30 million dollars anyway. The odds of any presumptive first pick walking away from the money are not anywhere close to 15 percent. We know that it requires something on the order of Andrew Luck level weird, massively adjusted for inflation in a post-CTE world, and if Lawrence or anybody else fit that description, everybody would know about it. I think the chances of anybody doing it exclusively or even primarily to avoid going to the bad team that holds the pick are exactly zero. And that includes the 'or something' options too because Eli's leverage in that regard wasn't about his talent.

[jgb]

6 minutes ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said:

Prescott has nothing to do with anything. It's easy to say screw the security when that entails banking 30 million dollars anyway. The odds of any presumptive first pick walking away from the money are not anywhere close to 15 percent. We know that it requires something on the order of Andrew Luck level weird, massively adjusted for inflation in a post-CTE world, and if Lawrence or anybody else fit that description, everybody would know about it. I think the chances of anybody doing it exclusively or even primarily to avoid going to the bad team that holds the pick are exactly zero. And that includes the 'or something' options too because Eli's leverage in that regard wasn't about his talent.

Someone else brought up Dak.

I smell a bet coming on