kmnj Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Not sure who I feel worse for Sam or h is parents that Joe looked in the eyes and lied to 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 20 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: I totally agree with this. This season has a very different feel if Perrine, Davis and the injured rookies (the rest are all injured, right?) do well in the second half. I'd add Perriman to that as well. The real question is how do you get Gase to use the rookies? I guess JD could cut all of the veterans Gase has in front of them on the depth chart. There is a much easier and better way.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jago Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 sam would have more trade value on the bench behind TL should we get him.as the enticing backup flavor of the month he would be talked up for months as other qbs go down or falter, without exposing his play. frankly would hate to see it all go down like this but looks like it’s not going well for the kid here obvi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 hours ago, heymangold said: Trevor Lawrence isn’t going to risk going back to college, getting hurt and losing out on the payday that being the #1 overall pick gets. It isn’t going to happen. Stop with the thought of it, it’s ridiculous. Manning did it because Parcells wouldn’t commit to drafting him 1st overall in 1997, 23 years ago. Eli made a power play that worked out for everyone. I don’t see that ever happening again. In the land of the Jets, it's tough to blame Jets fans for expecting the worst. But you are correct, Lawrence is coming out and will play for the Jets if we draft him. Odds are we will be bringing in a new HC and offensive system. So the dark cloud of Gase will be gone and there won't be reason for Lawrence to want to stay away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 4 hours ago, kevinc855 said: Trevor is to smart. If we get one, he’s staying in college much like manning did. Unless his Dabo comes with him and gets full control... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I agree, Sam very likely wants out at this stage. He's not no success here, no support here, and is on the verge of being a clear-cut bust with a materially lower career path going forward. I also believe that Trevor Lawrence will refuse to come to/play for the Jets. This team is in the realm of farce at this point. Nothing is beyond the realm of possibility for our embarrassment now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 5 hours ago, kevinc855 said: There are also rumors we are shopping crowder?? I don’t know what the heck JD plan is here. He has put himself in a real gambling man spot. When you burn it all down like this you better draft like a god dang genius or your in trouble. Rumor has it JD wants to be traded. He’s looking to give up our two #1’s in ‘21 & ‘22 to get out of dodge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 If Jets traded every player that doesn't want to be here, there would be no one left on the roster 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: First of all....JD did not get 'rid' of Robby. He gave him an offer, Robby refused. Maybe Robby wanted to get out of NY like you are suggesting Sam will. @Sperm Edwards time to shine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Scott Dierking said: We have to hope this is the plan, and they are not just winging it. Yup! I'm choosing to believe this is the case and that JD is not entirely incompetent. I mean if he thought you was putting out a competitive roster or he's simply been "winging it" as you stated we will continue to be the dregs of the NFL for at least another 4 years until JD is gone. Truthfully though, it sure did seem like that's what he was doing all off-season. And if he is, and we draft Lawrence they'll be a lot of hope. He would have been what we were calling for - going all in on a strategy and no half-assing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Warfish said: I agree, Sam very likely wants out at this stage. He's not no success here, no support here, and is on the verge of being a clear-cut bust with a materially lower career path going forward. I also believe that Trevor Lawrence will refuse to come to/play for the Jets. This team is in the realm of farce at this point. Nothing is beyond the realm of possibility for our embarrassment now. I love how some posters here are saying that "The Jets HC Job next year will be attractive". No, no it won't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Sam is a good kid who is trying his best but yeah he must see Ryan Tannehill destroying it without Gase and be like give me some of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 He may want out but he doesn't want to damage his brand and value by griping. Either the Jets will draft a QB and trade him or he will start over with another coach next season. He just has to last out this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, peebag said: I love how some posters here are saying that "The Jets HC Job next year will be attractive". No, no it won't. It won’t unless the Johnsons issue a public statement saying they are done trying to interfere with football operations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Yup! I'm choosing to believe this is the case and that JD is not entirely incompetent. I mean if he thought you was putting out a competitive roster or he's simply been "winging it" as you stated we will continue to be the dregs of the NFL for at least another 4 years until JD is gone. Truthfully though, it sure did seem like that's what he was doing all off-season. And if he is, and we draft Lawrence they'll be a lot of hope. He would have been what we were calling for - going all in on a strategy and no half-assing it. You were early on this (tanking), and it appears the plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, Bruce Harper said: He may want out but he doesn't want to damage his brand and value by griping. Either the Jets will draft a QB and trade him or he will start over with another coach next season. He just has to last out this season. The jets are going to get one of the top 3 QBs in the draft The strategy for Sam is to end up like Drew Brees who was perceived as a bust fir several years in SD, had a good last season went to free agency and is now a superstar with a different team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Sam is a good kid who is trying his best but yeah he must see Ryan Tannehill destroying it without Gase and be like give me some of that Then Arthur Smith is your guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 22 minutes ago, Warfish said: I agree, Sam very likely wants out at this stage. He's not no success here, no support here, and is on the verge of being a clear-cut bust with a materially lower career path going forward. I also believe that Trevor Lawrence will refuse to come to/play for the Jets. This team is in the realm of farce at this point. Nothing is beyond the realm of possibility for our embarrassment now. Bell was a cancer on the Steelers. They were really annoyed with his antics and he screwed himself over sitting out a year. Macc screwed us up signing him. So, cutting him, while being an impulsive, negligent move, really doesn’t affect us much. Bell just didn’t get along with Gase and visa versa. He was a goner after this year anyways. Bottom line is JD can turn this roster around next year: 1- get a new HC. That’s imperative. 2- get a new QB and trade Darnold who’s already past his welcome here (progress wise and economically- maybe not his fault but who says life is fair). 3 - Keep focusing on the OL. 4- JD MUST get an edge or two- MUST. 5- Get a #1 WR. Period. 6-And get a top flight CB who’s heading into his prime and not spend a fortune on one who’s past it. JD has picks, he’s got money. No reason not to get this stuff done and instantly, this team is undergoing a transformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said: Of course we would know that. CCCccCCCCCCCcccccCCCCCCorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 5 hours ago, AFJF said: Who says he doesn't want out now? He should have demanded out the moment the Jets took another DT at #3 overall the year after they drafted him at #3 overall. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, Philc1 said: The jets are going to get one of the top 3 QBs in the draft The strategy for Sam is to end up like Drew Brees who was perceived as a bust fir several years in SD, had a good last season went to free agency and is now a superstar with a different team Call me crazy but I still think Sam is going to wind up being a star somewhere. If we don't get Lawrence, I'm not convinced the other guys are better than him but I guess the rookie contract thing is a big part of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I’ve reached the point where I’d be willing to root for Sam over the Jets. I hate everything the Johnsons stand for. I hate Gase. I see no reason to apply juvenile, toxic male pressure to be loyal to a franchise that is not loyal to or operating in the best interest of the fans or players. That’s more like a cult. Lets go Sam! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: Call me crazy but I still think Sam is going to wind up being a star somewhere. If we don't get Lawrence, I'm not convinced the other guys are better than him but I guess the rookie contract thing is a big part of it. I’d love to see him go replace Brees next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Sam's best hope of landing a huge second contract is to play well enough that this team doesn't pick first overall. I don't think he wants out, he wants to win. Unfortunately for him, he's not that good and the rest of the team stinks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I want out, so I can only imagine how the players feel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 ... and we will tank again Trevor is to smart. If we get one, he’s staying in college much like manning did. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I can't blame him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 13 hours ago, kevinc855 said: Trevor is to smart. If we get one, he’s staying in college much like manning did. Heard that is unlikely since he is doing well and we are in the middle of a Pandemic, you don't turn tens of millions of dollars down during times like this unless you are a moron(see Clowney who now looks stupid that is dissed a lucrative contract to play for the Browns who look like a playoff team at this point). What if Lawrence gets hurt staying another year or just doesn't look as good. No, what is more likely is if Jets get the number 1 pick remember they can perform talks with Lawrence prior to the draft and he may say trade down with another team so I can go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 8 hours ago, peebag said: I love how some posters here are saying that "The Jets HC Job next year will be attractive". No, no it won't. It is for the money if no other team would ever offer you a HC job, like with Gase. Who else would have taken him as their HC explain that one to me?. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 The Tannehill example is so damning. It's so obvious for all to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 11 hours ago, Bruce Harper said: Call me crazy but I still think Sam is going to wind up being a star somewhere. If we don't get Lawrence, I'm not convinced the other guys are better than him but I guess the rookie contract thing is a big part of it. Same here. I’d rather draft Jamar Chase if we don’t get Lawrence but the Johnsons are the Generals of the Gase Excuse Army 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Gen X Jet said: The Tannehill example is so damning. It's so obvious for all to see. It really is and you can’t any longer use Derrick Henry as an excuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Trevor The Jet Lawrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Gen X Jet said: The Tannehill example is so damning. It's so obvious for all to see. Crazy. And all it took was getting him away from gase 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: Crazy. And all it took was getting him away from gase No but it’s all Derrick Henry. Ofcourse, Marcus Mariota totally sucked under the same circumstances but still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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