sam on bell

[kmnj]

you could tell he was not thrilled the jets let bell go

best part is he has a tell-as he was talking about the great football minds the jets had he cleared this throat -just like teddy KGB eating the Oreo....

[Ohhthepain]

Sam has officially checked out

[slimjasi]

Just now, Ohhthepain said:

Sam has officially checked out

The next step is that everyone in the building checks out, completing the 0-16/Trevor Lawrence dream. 

Sam knows it's over here. 

[jetstream23]

8 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

The next step is that everyone in the building checks out, completing the 0-16/Trevor Lawrence dream. 

Sam knows it's over here. 

Trevor won't make it to the Jets, either by bad Draft position luck or because he'll pull an Eli.  Do you think Eli regrets the pain of the situation or awkwardness on Draft day getting himself off the Charger and to the Giants?  Is Eli a two-time SB winner and likely HOF player if he had been in Southern California the past 15 years?

Every single person getting traded, released or mentally checking out.....who on earth would come to the Jets?

[Adoni Beast]

Sam looks completely defeated. I know he’s trying to be professional and a good sport, but its turning him into a weak-minded Sanchez.

At this point, I’d like to see him man up and call out the coach and organization for a dumpster fire.

Show some anger man. This defeatist attitude is not helping. 

[slimjasi]

Just now, jetstream23 said:

Trevor won't make it to the Jets, either by bad Draft position luck or because he'll pull an Eli.

Every single person getting traded, released or mentally checking out.....who on earth would come to the Jets.

You're probably right. 

The other thing to note is that there are other big QB prospects available in this draft. Everyone is obsessed with Lawrence, but that doesn't mean Fields or Lance won't be worth seriously considering. 

I don't agree with the conventional wisdom on this board that it is Darnold or Lawrence next year. If we are picking #2 overall and JD thinks Fields or Lance is a stud, he should not hesitate. 

[UntouchableCrew]

1 minute ago, slimjasi said:

You're probably right. 

The other thing to note is that there are other big QB prospects available in this draft. Everyone is obsessed with Lawrence, but that doesn't mean Fields or Lance won't be worth seriously considering. 

I don't agree with the conventional wisdom on this board that it is Darnold or Lawrence next year. If we are picking #2 overall and JD thinks Fields or Lance is a stud, he should not hesitate. 

We're taking a QB with our first pick, no doubt in my mind at this point. I think Darnold knows that too.

If we have the 2nd pick or Lawrence refuses to play here it's gonna be Fields.

[peebag]

4 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

We're taking a QB with our first pick, no doubt in my mind at this point. I think Darnold knows that too.

If we have the 2nd pick or Lawrence refuses to play here it's gonna be Fields.

If that happens, it will be a huge mistake.

[Irish Jet]

Opens thread to watch/read how Sam reacted to Bell leaving.

Leaves, confused with less information than before.

[TNJet]

24 minutes ago, Ohhthepain said:

Sam has officially checked out

Don't blame him.  I just hate it he is my favorite current Jet on the roster. He will be a probowler in Pittsburgh next year.

[jgb]

1 minute ago, TNJet said:

Don't blame him.  I just hate it he is my favorite current Jet on the roster. He will be a probowler in Pittsburgh next year.

Very little risk of that happening and even if it does, it’s not worth the price Jets will have to pay to see if the ticket comes in

[Ohhthepain]

1 minute ago, TNJet said:

Don't blame him.  I just hate it he is my favorite current Jet on the roster. He will be a probowler in Pittsburgh next year.

I'll root for Sam wherever he goes. Jets have failed him in every way possible 

[thebuzzardman]

How can he be that upset? It's not like he threw that many passes to him. 

[slimjasi]

6 minutes ago, peebag said:

If that happens, it will be a huge mistake.

Can you elaborate on this? 

I'm interested to understand why folks feel this way. Is it that you don't buy into Fields or Lance? Is it that you think Darnold will definitely be better than either of those guys? Lawrence or bust? 

[More Cowbell]

28 minutes ago, kmnj said:

you could tell he was not thrilled the jets let bell go

best part is he has a tell-as he was talking about the great football minds the jets had he cleared this throat -just like teddy KGB eating the Oreo....

Sam knows this was basically JD telling him we are not getting you any help, as a matter of fact, we are going to dismantle the team around you and work on rebuilding with the QB we draft next off-season. 

Sam was never given a chance here. I can't recall another potential FQB getting treated this badly. 

[peebag]

3 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Can you elaborate on this? 

I'm interested to understand why folks feel this way. Is it that you don't buy into Fields or Lance? Is it that you think Darnold will definitely be better than either of those guys? Lawrence or bust? 

Can't speak for the ND kid but Fields to me is Dwayne Haskins 2.0.

 

[slimjasi]

5 minutes ago, TNJet said:

Don't blame him.  I just hate it he is my favorite current Jet on the roster. He will be a probowler in Pittsburgh next year.

I'm on record as saying that I think Darnold will have a good career elsewhere. I think what we have surrounded him with over the last three years has, by and large, been a complete joke. (Bottom 2-3 offensive line in each of his first two seasons, bottom 2-3 WR group, and a very poor set of head coaches)

However, if we finish with a top 3 pick, we have to seriously consider starting over with a new QB on a 5 year deal. Makes too much economic/practical sense, and as much as I like Sam's physical talent, he hasn't shown an ability to put it all together yet.  The bottom line is that we don't know that he is a long term solution. 

If Sam really wants to be the Jets QB longterm, he has to get back on the field this year and win enough games so that we can't easily replace him in the draft. 

[slimjasi]

7 minutes ago, peebag said:

Can't speak for the ND kid but Fields to me is Dwayne Haskins 2.0.

 

Fair. 

Well, if we get a top 3 pick,  I want JD to scout the QBs available, compare them to Sam, and make the choice he thinks is best. 

I'm not necessarily saying to draft Fields or Lance, I'm only saying that I want JD to consider it. 

[Sammybighead]

Do you think Sam realizes how badly his talents are being wasted and his career stunted by Gase? Or does he really believe what Gase is preaching if they could just execute his impossible game plans?

[UntouchableCrew]

18 minutes ago, peebag said:

If that happens, it will be a huge mistake.

Why?

[JiFtheOracle]

40 minutes ago, kmnj said:

you could tell he was not thrilled the jets let bell go

best part is he has a tell-as he was talking about the great football minds the jets had he cleared this throat -just like teddy KGB eating the Oreo....

I was like, there is no way that was just coincidence when I saw that.  lol  Those were tell tale signs of lying. 

[JiFtheOracle]

11 minutes ago, thebuzzardman said:

How can he be that upset? It's not like he threw that many passes to him. 

Bell has the 2nd most receptions on the team last year.  Sam loved throwing to him.  Especially that wheel route the laughing have tried to run with Gore.

[UntouchableCrew]

Just now, JiF said:

Bell has the 2nd most receptions on the team last year.  

Wait is that true? Dude has played in two games lol.

[slimjasi]

3 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Wait is that true? Dude has played in two games lol.

last year, not this year

[joewilly12]

Add Sam Darnold to the list of QB's who failed miserably here. 

[JiFtheOracle]

32 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Trevor won't make it to the Jets, either by bad Draft position luck or because he'll pull an Eli.  Do you think Eli regrets the pain of the situation or awkwardness on Draft day getting himself off the Charger and to the Giants?  Is Eli a two-time SB winner and likely HOF player if he had been in Southern California the past 15 years?

Every single person getting traded, released or mentally checking out.....who on earth would come to the Jets?

So he stays in school, which he said he wouldnt but let say he does; Then next year because lets be real here, the Jets are the worst team in the league again.  Then what?  Because to my knowledge, Trevor Lawrence isnt a part of Football royalty that can force hands the way the Manning's can. 

[CanadienJetsFan]

link please

[slimjasi]

1 minute ago, JiF said:

So he stays in school, which he said he wouldnt but let say he does; Then next year because lets be real here, the Jets are the worst team in the league again.  Then what?  Because to my knowledge, Trevor Lawrence isnt a part of Football royalty that can force hands the way the Manning's can. 

I personally think being "the biggest prospect since Peyton" gives Trevor enough leverage to tell the Jets to f*ck off, but whether he actually does that or not is another issue entirely. 

 

[JiFtheOracle]

12 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Wait is that true? Dude has played in two games lol.

 

9 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

last year, not this year

Yes, last year but this year, Bell had 3 targets.  He caught all 3 for 13 yards per catch. He was arguably the best WR on the team, shame on him for wanting to be more involved while he's watching Frank Gore literally trip over himself running routes and getting bulldozed in pass protection.

 

[joewilly12]

1 minute ago, slimjasi said:

I personally think being "the biggest prospect since Peyton" gives Trevor enough leverage to tell the Jets to f*ck off, but whether he actually does that or not is another issue entirely. 

 

#1 picks usually go to bad teams. If Trevor Lawrence doesn't realize this he better stay in school and pursue a career in whatever he is getting a degree in. 

[slimjasi]

Just now, joewilly12 said:

#1 picks usually go to bad teams. If Trevor Lawrence doesn't realize this he better stay in school and pursue a career in whatever he is getting a degree in. 

I agree, but the Jets fan in me fears that he could spurn us. 

I'll believe that he can be a Jet when he is actually a Jet. 

[KINGDIRK]

49 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Trevor won't make it to the Jets, either by bad Draft position luck or because he'll pull an Eli.  Do you think Eli regrets the pain of the situation or awkwardness on Draft day getting himself off the Charger and to the Giants?  Is Eli a two-time SB winner and likely HOF player if he had been in Southern California the past 15 years?

Every single person getting traded, released or mentally checking out.....who on earth would come to the Jets?

I don’t understand the Trevor won’t play for Jets narrative. If the Giants pick 2nd, will he go play for that sh*t show of an organization? Jax?

Burrow went to CINN last year without making noise. How’s their ownership, team brass?

I’ll give this idea some thought when I actually hear something concrete from Camp Lawrence.  Why would I assume otherwise? BC I’m a disgruntled and pained Jets fan?

[UntouchableCrew]

1 minute ago, slimjasi said:

I agree, but the Jets fan in me fears that he could spurn us. 

I'll believe that he can be a Jet when he is actually a Jet. 

A lot can change between now and April 2021.

I personally think a lot of the "toxicity" that surrounds the Jets right now is clearly centered on Adam Gase and if we operate under the assumption he's promptly fired after the season the situation can change quickly.

With the promise of the first pick I think we could attract a promising coach and I think with a plethora of picks and a fresh coach suddenly becoming the QB of a NYC team doesn't look so bad.

[FidelioJet]

56 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Trevor won't make it to the Jets, either by bad Draft position luck or because he'll pull an Eli.  Do you think Eli regrets the pain of the situation or awkwardness on Draft day getting himself off the Charger and to the Giants?  Is Eli a two-time SB winner and likely HOF player if he had been in Southern California the past 15 years?

Every single person getting traded, released or mentally checking out.....who on earth would come to the Jets?

If the Jets are there he’s coming to NY.  There is simply no evidence whatsoever, nothing about the kid, nothing said by anyone to make you think he wouldn’t come out or go to the Jets.

Two people have done this in the history of the NFL.

[TuscanyTile2]

41 minutes ago, Ohhthepain said:

I'll root for Sam wherever he goes. Jets have failed him in every way possible 

Same here.  Sam has been nothing but a good soldier.  The fact that the Jets have a guy like this but are going completely in the wrong direction says everything we need to know about these owners (who I blame for hiring this POS head coach).

There have been plenty of times where I've been upset with this franchise but this really is a low point.  We actually have a guy who I think has FQB potential but we're destroying him.  If he does end up elsewhere, I hope he reaches his full potential there.