KINGDIRK Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: why not fire sale lets just start over.. We do that every 3 years so I guess it’s about that time. I will say one thing in defense of JD....he didn’t pick any of these players. He didn’t pick Leo and fleeced the Giants. He didn’t want to pay an in the box safety $17m a year and got multiples first rounders. He didn’t pick Q and if he can get a haul for him- go for it bro. Macc sucks, Macc sucks! But don’t get rid of Macc players! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 If you can get a 1 for him you do it without blinking an eye. Jets need OFFENSE. Trade him and take the best offensive player you can get. Would be insane not to trade him. I'll take the #25 pick and draft a guard and be better off than having a good run stopping DT.They need defense too...the lowest scoring opponent we had this year was 27 points. That puts alot of strain on an offense especially one led by a young qb.Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gooch Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: Because building defense is easier . And my main goal here would be taking care of TL out the gate. So OL,WR, RB would all be picked high Well,not a bad idea then! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetluv58 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, DLJ said: We trade him away what kind of nucleus are we building around? You can’t trade everyone The distraction feels good in the moment, I guess? Weird to trade our best players while keeping Gase and Greg Williams. We keep talking about picks but it seems Douglas is no more a pick guru than Gase is a QB whisperer. No matter how much deck chair shuffling on the Titanic we do, as long as Johnson & Johnson are in control, we have problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: They need defense too...the lowest scoring opponent we had this year was 27 points. That puts alot of strain on an offense especially one led by a young qb. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app Nope. Defense isn’t nearly as important in today’s NFL as it used to be. You can absolutely win with offense only. let’s build a top 5 offense and worry about defense after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, GreenFish said: I like the trio of Franklin-Myers, Quinnen, and Foley. Agree add in Shepard. McClendon is surely a goner also age an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, The Gooch said: They need just as much help on defense too,so why do that? High picks on offense. Midround picks on defense unless maybe you're targeting an elite EDGE or CB prospect. If we trade Quinnen for a 1, we'll have three 1st round picks next draft. Plenty of opportunities to take offense AND defense then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Get all the picks you can JD DO THIS REBUILD THE RIGHT WAY 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetHammer Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I think quinnen, 22, should stay. Cut/trade some of the other meat around DL and build around q with a coach that uses him properly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Seems like this team is bent on finding new depths to the term "rebuild". We've been in a "full" rebuild since 2014. Neglecting the outlier season with Fitz & Friends, we've going deeper and deeper on our peyote trip in the rebuild tent. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Get all the picks you can JD DO THIS REBUILD THE RIGHT WAY So we have a million contracts to extend at the same time... mmhmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Just now, Paradis said: So we have a million contracts to extend at the same time... mmhmm So what who cares the way we've been doing it the last 51 years and counting hasn't worked out that well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 DUMP THIS TURD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamathToCaster Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yes, but a DT who doesn't really rush the passer with any consistency isn't exactly a crucial piece to build around. Becton, Mims, and the picks we've accumulated: That is the "core" of the team at this point. Anyone drafted 2019 or prior and every FA acquisition ought to be fair game. Yes, this seems to be the case. Anyone prior to 2019 should probably contact their real estate agent. Especially anyone that has shown any hint of insubordination. Gase and Douglas are not playing around. Whether these two know what they're doing is yet to be determined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Quinnen Slouch just got here. LOL. We are going to sell on him already? Pennies on the dollar. Hilarious. No one is giving up anything worth anything, considering they have game tape of him.. being.. a bum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 minute ago, NamathToCaster said: Yes, this seems to be the case. Anyone prior to 2019 should probably contact their real estate agent. Especially anyone that has shown any hint of insubordination. Gase and Douglas are not playing around. Whether these two know what they're doing is yet to be determined. It’s abundantly clear Gase doesn’t know what he’s doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 35 minutes ago, Lith said: "Teams calling about Quinnen" is a lot different than "Jets looking to move Quinnen." Lets call about Mahomes while we are at it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Team X: "Hey Joe, yeah, we're just inquiring about Quinnen Williams. You got some time to talk?" Joe D.: "Sure, what do you want to know?" Team X: "Well, just how many milkshakes does he REALLY drink a day?" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Get all the picks you can JD DO THIS REBUILD THE RIGHT WAY The legend who risked 3 1st rounders for a guy who played on special teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, maury77 said: Lets call about Mahomes while we are at it. We can still acquire Pat Mahomes Sr! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Team X: "Hey Joe, yeah, we're just inquiring about Quinnen Williams. You got some time to talk?" Joe D.: "Sure, what do you want to know?" Team X: "Well, just how many milkshakes does he REALLY drink a day?" LOL He used to frequent the Chipotle up the road from my house. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Samtorobby47 said: If they did trade Quinnen, this is basically an official tank. Called it... I told you he is next... No video game players on the team... He wants people that live to play football... QW has to continue to improve... But the writing is on the wall. But he would get a big haul in return not like these armchair qbs are calling it would be 1st rounder plus something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 31 minutes ago, Paradis said: So we have a million contracts to extend at the same time... mmhmm That’s a first world problem right there. Quite a bit different than having no one to extend. If we draft well enough that we have too many good players, I think I can live with that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post choon328 Posted October 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Gangrene said: The draft has always been the Super Bowl for Jets fans, but we have been trading away players with talent for years. Keyshawn Johnson, John Abraham, Sheldon Richardson, Leonard Williams, Jamal Adams We've got some great value back at what point do we build a football team with homegrown talent? The plan somewhere along the way has to be for our players to win a super bowl in Jets green ...not wearing a Hawks, Giants, Browns, or whatever uniform At some point this burning down the house has to stop. Quinnen Williams is our only player of note on defense, a young kid who is beginning to figure this football malarky out. This fanbase is not patient enough to build through the draft. Look at the meltdown people are having about trading Jamal, not signing big ticket FA's and now losing. Macc left the Jets roster barren. The quickest way to replenish is to take your few assets, trade them off and multiply them. The Jets are constantly restarting every 3 years bc the organization has not taken a long term approach to the draft and FA. I'm hopeful that's what JD is doing right now. And it seems like he's doing it correctly bc people haven't stopped bitching about it. Jets fans talk about building through the draft and their willingness to do so but the fact of the matter is most are not willing. We can start keeping good players when there is an actual core to this team. Otherwise you're paying good players a lot of money to lose 10 games a year. This is going to take a couple of years to build a sustainable winner and the key to that is finding a consistent QB. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: Nope. Defense isn’t nearly as important in today’s NFL as it used to be. You can absolutely win with offense only. let’s build a top 5 offense and worry about defense after that. The only guys on D who really make a difference are pashrushers and quick LBrs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Just now, section314 said: The only guys on D who really make a difference are pashrushers and quick LBrs. We have none. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: We have none. The only rookie who has been hurt that I want to see is Zuniga. Just turn him loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 37 minutes ago, GreenFish said: I like the trio of Franklin-Myers, Quinnen, and Foley. I’d keep Quinnen unless we get an offer we can’t refuse. Agreed tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, choon328 said: This fanbase is not patient enough to build through the draft. Look at the meltdown people are having about trading Jamal, not signing big ticket FA's and now losing. Macc left the Jets roster barren. The quickest way to replenish is to take your few assets, trade them off and multiply them. The Jets are constantly restarting every 3 years bc the organization has not taken a long term approach to the draft and FA. I'm hopeful that's what JD is doing right now. And it seems like he's doing it correctly bc people haven't stopped bitching about it. Jets fans talk about building through the draft and their willingness to do so but the fact of the matter is most are not willing. We can start keeping good players when there is an actual core to this team. Otherwise you're paying good players a lot of money to lose 10 games a year. This is going to take a couple of years to build a sustainable winner and the key to that is finding a consistent QB. The fan base is plenty patient... They’re not restarting out of impatience they’re restarting because they keep missing on their draft picks. In order to build through the draft you have to draft good players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: The fan base is plenty patient... They’re not restarting out of impatience they’re restarting because they keep missing on their draft picks. In order to build through the draft you have to draft good players. The fan base is impatient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 3 hours ago, FidelioJet said: I don't care. You don't need to play defense to win anymore in the NFL. Multiple teams have proven that for the past five years. Scheme defense as best you can and put up 40 points a week. sure, take defense in the 3rd to 5th round all you want - but 1st and 2nd round picks have to go to offense. big FA money, has to go to offense. Sounds like something @Defense Wins Championships would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 minute ago, playtowinthegame said: Sounds like something @Defense Wins Championships would say. Aren’t you guys sick I trying to build a defense and a serviceable offense? Wouldn’t it be fun to have an explosive offense for once, for the team to try and win with offense. I would rather lose 45-40 than 17-10. The league wants points, DB’s are able to cover less and less, only way to slow an offense down in through a pass rush, wanna take a shot on an edge guy, so be it, but other than that it would be all offense and role players on D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Just now, FidelioJet said: Aren’t you guys sick I trying to build a defense and a serviceable offense? Wouldn’t it be fun to have an explosive offense for once, for the team to try and win with offense. I would rather lose 45-40 than 17-10. The league wants points, DB’s are able to cover less and less, only way to slow an offense down in through a pass rush, wanna take a shot on an edge guy, so be it, but other than that it would be all offense and role players on D. I'm not arguing with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, playtowinthegame said: I'm not arguing with you. Oh, sorry. I know. I meant to just write about how that would be fun... Definitely came across the wrong way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, choon328 said: The fan base is impatient No, totally disagree. The fan base just happens to be much smarter than the guys running the team. Not being patient with crap players and bad coaches is not impatience it is smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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