Gangrene Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 32 minutes ago, choon328 said: This fanbase is not patient enough to build through the draft. Look at the meltdown people are having about trading Jamal, not signing big ticket FA's and now losing. Macc left the Jets roster barren. The quickest way to replenish is to take your few assets, trade them off and multiply them. The Jets are constantly restarting every 3 years bc the organization has not taken a long term approach to the draft and FA. I'm hopeful that's what JD is doing right now. And it seems like he's doing it correctly bc people haven't stopped bitching about it. Jets fans talk about building through the draft and their willingness to do so but the fact of the matter is most are not willing. We can start keeping good players when there is an actual core to this team. Otherwise you're paying good players a lot of money to lose 10 games a year. This is going to take a couple of years to build a sustainable winner and the key to that is finding a consistent QB. I get what you're saying. Early signs on Joe Douglas being our Jets version of John Lynch of whomever a good GM is, rebuilding this team is not good. That said he probably needs a minimum of two more years before we decide if we need a restart or not. "We can start keeping good players when there is an actual core to this team. " At what point do you flip the switch and say "we have a core" When all the hamstrings have recovered? When we have hit gold on five draft picks? When will that happen? We're bum rushed a half talented deviant out the door because he wanted to nut somebody's wife in the eye. Replacing him with a chronically injured underachiever who probably is a much, much nicer person that Robbie The Nut Anderson. The major problem that I see is the Jets have lost their reputation mojo, only free agents looking to cash in come here. Even Smirk Cousins was smart enough to turn down 30 million a year from the Jets. We've got to grow a few players, and rebuild our reputation up from the laughing stock that it is now. I get it Jet fans arguing these points are like two bald men fighting over a comb. It's a futile endlessly arguable poopfest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Mid to high 1st or GTFO. He’s actually showing something on a terrible team. We should be looking to keep. He’s literally one of the two promising talents we have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Come on JD keep the ball rolling. LETS DO THIS REBUILD RIGHT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: Mid to high 1st or GTFO. He’s actually showing something on a terrible team. We should be looking to keep. He’s literally one of the two promising talents we have. Outside of 1 game what has he shown? I'd love to know. In his last 3 games he has a combined 9 tackles with 0 QB Hits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, joewilly12 said: Come on JD keep the ball rolling. LETS DO THIS REBUILD RIGHT. Not even sure what "right" is anymore. Lawrence step one. But good chance he gives us the bird or we get him and surround him with utter garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, choon328 said: Outside of 1 game what has he shown? I'd love to know Max value is Leo deal a 3rd and 5th that could become a 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, choon328 said: Outside of 1 game what has he shown? I'd love to know. In his last 3 fans he has a combined 9 tackles with 0 QB Hits He was excellent against Denver, stupid penalties aside. He’s improved a lot since last year. I was sh*tting on him as much as anyone but the improvement is there. You don’t give up on him now for a second round pick ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: He was excellent against Denver, stupid penalties aside. He’s improved a lot since last year. I was sh*tting on him as much as anyone but the improvement is there. You don’t give up on him now for a second round pick ffs. He showed improvement in 1 game and been awful the other 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: He was excellent against Denver, stupid penalties aside. He’s improved a lot since last year. I was sh*tting on him as much as anyone but the improvement is there. You don’t give up on him now for a second round pick ffs. Not too many in the thread are saying we should settle for a 2nd round pick, if any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, jgb said: Not even sure what "right" is anymore. Lawrence step one. But good chance he gives us the bird or we get him and surround him with utter garbage. He won't give us the bird he's the savior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: He won't give us the bird he's the savior. He just might choose to save Clemson football for one more season. Hell, I wouldn't come to this team and I'm a Jets fan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, choon328 said: He showed improvement in 1 game and been awful the other 4. He has not been awful. You’re just talking sh*t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: That’s a first world problem right there. Quite a bit different than having no one to extend. If we draft well enough that we have too many good players, I think I can live with that! I was being somewhat silly -- i think this team would welcome the problem of having to pick which players to extend... to an extent though. 8-10 picks is about where you top out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonforPrez Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 hours ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said: “Kinnen???...qwinnnen??...I don’t know how to pronounce his name but all I know is between him and Millnahh the Jets have found the only 2 guys from Alabama who can’t play football”... J. Benigno HAHA Joe B might be the worst radio hack in NY but he's not wrong on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, jgb said: He just might choose to save Clemson football for one more season. Hell, I wouldn't come to this team and I'm a Jets fan! Payday awaits him in NYC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Payday awaits him in NYC Bigger payday but not sabotaging his career coming here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 We’re going to field cap space and picks lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: He was excellent against Denver, stupid penalties aside. He’s improved a lot since last year. I was sh*tting on him as much as anyone but the improvement is there. You don’t give up on him now for a second round pick ffs. Most players take time to develop. Not everyone steps in and plays like a Bosa. I’m not a scout but Q looks much better than last year. And this is a guy who didn’t have a camp this year due to COVID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 This fanbase can't handle a rebuild, they only want to reload with overpriced free agents who cash out immediately. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I am the GM of a team that thinks he can go far this year. My team is likely to have a low first round pick. I only have a little bit of cap room. The good teams are running well, and I need more DTs. QW picked at the bottom of the first round is not a terrible pick. But in a trade with the Jets, he is super cheap, since the Jets already paid his signing bonus. So spending a second or first round pick for him, and having him affordably help a playoff run, is not a terrible idea. In a way the Jets would be selling their balance sheet, which is ok. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Has he been traded yet? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Hook a cheese dog to a fishing poll and hook it to Q’s back and he will walk himself out of town 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, jgb said: Hook a cheese dog to a fishing poll and hook it to Q’s back and he will walk himself out of town Chipotle he likes it heard he was there daily during camp last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Chipotle he likes it heard he was there daily during camp last season. True gotta have catering at practices because tough practices make a team weaker #sportsscience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Does anyone know if Quinnen has “liked” this tweet or not? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Irish Jet said: He has not been awful. You’re just talking sh*t. I'm assuming you haven't watched any games. You said he played well against Denver. That's just not true. You should actually watch the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 8 hours ago, choon328 said: The Jets would add about $11 million to the salary cap this year if they trade him but would clear about $9 million from next year's cap. Any team that trades for him would have him on a 2 yr deal worth $1.8 million with no guaranteed money. They would also have another season to determine his 5th year option. It would be a good pickup for a playoff team who doesn't have a lot of cap space. Think Saints, Steelers, Rams, Chiefs and Raiders. They're so over the cap next year and will need cheap options going forward to get under the cap. Unless Morgan has looked like Mahomes in practice there is like literally 0% chance the Jets trade Darnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Icer said: This fanbase can't handle a rebuild, they only want to reload with overpriced free agents who cash out immediately. You just get here? We've been in a "rebuild" since 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I'm of the opinion that you hang onto good young players on rookie contracts until you have to make a decision on them. I would like to see Williams finish this season because I think he has a chance to become one of these aforementioned good young players and someone we would consider resigning one day. He's 22 years old and seems to have a lot of physical ability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Samtorobby47 said: If they did trade Quinnen, this is basically an official tank. Bye Bye QW. We hardly knew ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Beerfish said: Can't see them getting more than what was offered last year when Douglas dropped the ball. DO I hear a 1 a 1 a 1 Do I hear a 2 a 2 a 2 Do I hear a 3 a 3 a3 What's That a 3........ SOLD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 8 hours ago, Jetster said: Has he been good at stopping the run....s? I doubt it. After all, he's a big White Castle fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Samtorobby47 said: If they did trade Quinnen, this is basically an official tank. So if you're QW and you just read this, how do you react? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 8 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yep. There's no "nucleus" when you're on pace to be the 2nd worst NFL team of all-time. Burn. It. All. Down. Burn Baby Burn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 7 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Get all the picks you can JD DO THIS REBUILD THE RIGHT WAY So I bet we're going to use a #1 on a punt returner. I can see it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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