SayNoToDMC Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 On 10/15/2020 at 4:00 PM, Bruce Harper said: Don’t you need some guys to build around? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app We still got Jeff Smith 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 I doubt if it would be the raiders, they took the clelln ferrel early and maxx crossby has been a revelation. i look at a team like Arizona. up and comer team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Raideraholic said: Sadly I think the Raiders would give up a first for Q Williams. Both M Mayock, and J Gruden were big Q Williams fans . Both tend to like players from the championship programs. Get on the phone and get it done ✅ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 On 10/15/2020 at 4:02 PM, Beerfish said: Can't see them getting more than what was offered last year when Douglas dropped the ball. Which there is no empirical evidence stating what he was offered....only conjecture 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Beerfish said: I doubt if it would be the raiders, they took the clelln ferrel early and maxx crossby has been a revelation. i look at a team like Arizona. up and comer team. Both C Ferrell and Max Crosby are the starting De’s. ( 275 pounds) C Ferrell slides inside to Dt On the passing downs( try to get their best pass rushers on the field) . De C Nassib broke his big toe and out probably a couple of weeks. ( IR) Raiders probably sign De David Irving ( ex cowboy De just reinstated) to go with Arden Key ( look okay at De) . Raiders are need of Dt .Dt Maliek Collins they gave some big money to be the guy but he has done nothing .( might be playing hurt) Time to start M Hurst at Ut Until Collins gets healthy.Jonathan Hankins starts at other Dt position. Here What Raiders need to do to improve porous defense 1. Forget off coverage let their Cb play man to man Trayvon Mullen ( right now graded as the top press cb) and D Arnette ( out couple more weeks after thumb surgery- at best in man coverage . Both struggle in off coverage. 2. Sit down Fs Eric Harris- no business starting for anyone .( either put Lamarcus Joyner or Jeff Heath at Fs. 3. StartM Hurst at Ut as he is the only Dt providing consistent pressure. What changed the Kc game - when they put A Key in the middle as spy( on Mahomes) and rushed just three. Mahomes couldn’t step up , and gave Des chance to get home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 59 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: Which there is no empirical evidence stating what he was offered....only conjecture Schefter is one of the two or three guys that is really plugged into things and he does not start bs rumours as it would hurt his cred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 12:44 AM, slimjasi said: I'm of the opinion that you hang onto good young players on rookie contracts until you have to make a decision on them. I would like to see Williams finish this season because I think he has a chance to become one of these aforementioned good young players and someone we would consider resigning one day. He's 22 years old and seems to have a lot of physical ability. Sounds like a review of Leonard Williams. Hopefully this Williams turns out significantly better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Q is an OK DT and seems to be a good kid, but that's my issue with him. I don't want nice guys as DT's. I want big strong nasty guys. So if they can get back a 1st round pick, do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 10:18 AM, Waka Flocka Flacco said: Justify it to whom? People who think the going rate for the third pick in a given draft is a first ballot hall of famer? Those people are insane. People who recognize that the third pick in the draft ought to be spent on a player with the potential to be a game-changer. An interior DL doesn't really have that potential unless they're Donald/Watt/Geno Atkins type pass-rushers who push the pocket from the middle. The fact that those guys are extreme outliers even among elite NFL DTs is why taking a DT at 3 is crazy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 On 10/15/2020 at 8:51 PM, KINGDIRK said: Most players take time to develop. Not everyone steps in and plays like a Bosa. I’m not a scout but Q looks much better than last year. And this is a guy who didn’t have a camp this year due to COVID. Camp? What is he 15? He’s played football for years. He was the 3rd pick in the draft. He’s played a year in NFL. Camp? News flash. No one had camp this year. That’s a lame azz excuse for a lame azz bust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I predict we trade Quinnen to the Raiders for their 1st round pick (15-22) and use it on Wyatt Davis if still available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 12 hours ago, Beerfish said: Schefter is one of the two or three guys that is really plugged into things and he does not start bs rumours as it would hurt his cred. Again, we will never know. He might also wanted to keep Williams to see what he might have had since his rookie season was riddled with issues. I think it is safe to say now that if we can get a first for him, you would take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Nobody here expects this kid to be Aaron Donald yet, but is it too much to watch the games and realize he actually played? That's the issue here...there is no productivity. In his defense, he would probably be much better in a 4-3. I would like to see what a 4-3 dline of Franklin-Myers, Q, Fatukasi and Zunigna would look like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Another bowling ball with butcher knives 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 8 hours ago, Greenseed4 said: I predict we trade Quinnen to the Raiders for their 1st round pick (15-22) and use it on Wyatt Davis if still available. Sounds like a plan. They need better Guards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I predict QW is a jet for 8 more years ... pissing of all the ffball knownothings on the board.My guess is that the same guys that were bitching about Adam's are now bitching about QW.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 1 hour ago, section314 said: Nobody here expects this kid to be Aaron Donald yet, but is it too much to watch the games and realize he actually played? That's the issue here...there is no productivity. In his defense, he would probably be much better in a 4-3. I would like to see what a 4-3 dline of Franklin-Myers, Q, Fatukasi and Zunigna would look like. You ever notice that as Jet fans we're always making the argument that a player would succeed if only he had a different HC, a better supporting cast or different scheme? Not that I disagree with your assessment, but most times a player like Q might be exactly who we see: not that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 On 10/16/2020 at 12:44 AM, slimjasi said: I'm of the opinion that you hang onto good young players on rookie contracts until you have to make a decision on them. I would like to see Williams finish this season because I think he has a chance to become one of these aforementioned good young players and someone we would consider resigning one day. He's 22 years old and seems to have a lot of physical ability. You told the future bro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: You told the future bro. Now let’s get him resigned . . . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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