THE BARON Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Here are just a few mock drafts that have TL going to the Jets first overall. As the season progresses, it will be spoken about as "a lock" https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2021-nfl-mock-draft-bengals-and-dolphins-give-young-franchise-qbs-familiar-weapons-steelers-address-corner/ https://walterfootball.com/draft2021.php https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2021-nfl-mock-draft-first-round-newman-october/ https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/2021-nfl-mock-draft-drae-harris-2.0 You wanna bet Lawrence is already getting used to the idea of being a Jet ??? Wanna bet Joe Douglas is already priming the channels of communication with the Lawrence people ??? This guy is going to be a Jet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UntouchableCrew Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 Nothing is set in stone but we're clearly the prohibitive favorites. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: Nothing is set in stone but we're clearly the prohibitive favorites. Agree... Now for the million dollar question. Is the tank job intentional and is Gase part of the future plan with Trevor Lawrence ??? I have said in a bunch of posts. Gase is married to a particular offensive system. Darnold is pretty much a square peg in that system. BUT. Lawrence is tailor made for it. What are we looking at here ??? Gase and Lawrence being the plan ??? Or Joe Douglas wanting TL and also primed to sh*tcan Gase at the end of the season ??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UntouchableCrew Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, THE BARON said: Agree... Now for the million dollar question. Is the tank job intentional and is Gase part of the future plan with Trevor Lawrence ??? I have said in a bunch of posts. Gase is married to a particular offensive system. Darnold is pretty much a square peg in that system. BUT. Lawrence is tailor made for it. What are we looking at here ??? Gase and Lawrence being the plan ??? Or Joe Douglas wanting TL and also primed to sh*tcan Gase at the end of the season ??? I cannot imagine any scenario where Gase is the coach of the team in 2021, and him sticking around feels like the scenario where Lawrence is most likely to balk at coming here. 9 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Barkus Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: I cannot imagine any scenario where Gase is the coach of the team in 2021, and him sticking around feels like the scenario where Lawrence is most likely to balk at coming here. Yeah, I cannot fathom Gase being retained. There will be riots in the streets! 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I dont think he will be and I dont think any qb could thrive here under the current ownership , current gm and current coach(he probably will be gone at some point) Unless TL can snap the ball block the pass rush with his other hand then throw it down the field and run under it and catch it(which would require a rule change) he is doomed to fail. A QB needs weapons we have none-okay so draft them you say? we only usually get one pick right per draft no matter who is running it if lucky(this year so far only one pick is productive too) Bring in FA you say? Joe has proven he is not the right guy to do that-the guys he brought in are TERRIBLE-the guys he paid money to (see Griffin) are terrible. We have money to spend but it wont be spend on the right guys. Joe has shown he can not identify productive free agents and bring them here . 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Wait til he starts rocking that 'tache... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 If we got mahomes today we would ruin him and guys would say he sucks. I feel bad for Sam and his parents who Joe lied to-he did not set up their son to succeed or to protect him 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Barkus said: Yeah, I cannot fathom Gase being retained. There will be riots in the streets! Right... But lets just say. This tank job was orchestrated by Gase himself. With both CJ and JD in on it and in full agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I mean, I won't say this article didn't make it move: https://fansided.com/2020/10/13/dabo-swinney-giving-nfls-new-york-teams-trevor-lawrence-scouting-report/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, THE BARON said: Right... But lets just say. This tank job was orchestrated by Gase himself. With both CJ and JD in on it and in full agreement. I love the conspiracy theories that some how gase and joe were in a secret plan to suck at ever aspect of their job for the greater good and at that time they will be able to turn on the switch and some how be able to be productive at their jobs. The reality is Gase sucks and Joe has done a terrible job so far. The talk by lots on here was playoffs this year and now the revised talk was it was a master plan to tank... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 I'll stick by my thought that I would prefer to trade the pick and stick with Darnold. I know I am the black sheep on this. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 26 minutes ago, THE BARON said: Here are just a few mock drafts that have TL going to the Jets first overall. As the season progresses, it will be spoken about as "a lock" https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2021-nfl-mock-draft-bengals-and-dolphins-give-young-franchise-qbs-familiar-weapons-steelers-address-corner/ https://walterfootball.com/draft2021.php https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2021-nfl-mock-draft-first-round-newman-october/ https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/2021-nfl-mock-draft-drae-harris-2.0 You wanna bet Lawrence is already getting used to the idea of being a Jet ??? Wanna bet Joe Douglas is already priming the channels of communication with the Lawrence people ??? This guy is going to be a Jet. Now that you’ve spoke, I have zero faith we get TL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, kmnj said: I love the conspiracy theories that some how gase and joe were in a secret plan to suck at ever aspect of their job for the greater good and at that time they will be able to turn on the switch and some how be able to be productive at their jobs. The reality is Gase sucks and Joe has done a terrible job so far. The talk by lots on here was playoffs this year and now the revised talk was it was a master plan to tank... I'm holding my appraisal of Joe Douglas as "incomplete" thus far. I tend to believe he knows what he is doing and is the man for the job. I cant blame him for Becton or Mims getting injured. Thus far, Becton looks to be the best player of the 2020 draft. From what I have seen so far, I'd call Becton "Revis Special". He looks that good. I also agree with the trade for Adams. It was a good deal especially because Adams was a disruptive influence AND did not fill a premium position like QB, LT or absolute shut-down CB. Those are the guys you break the bank for, Not a box safety. I do think they made a mistake letting Robby walk. He was the most entertaining thing about the Jets since a Rex presser. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jet2020 said: Now that you’ve spoke, I have zero faith we get TL. A reversal of this position is on order. I'm right most of the time 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Gangrene said: Wait til he starts rocking that 'tache... We can only hope! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, JetFreak89 said: I mean, I won't say this article didn't make it move: https://fansided.com/2020/10/13/dabo-swinney-giving-nfls-new-york-teams-trevor-lawrence-scouting-report/ I agree with Dabo. I have seen Lawrene play ball and I have heard him speak. There has been NOTHING like this to come along since Joe Namath. He is a once in a lifetime prospect. Better than Elway, Manning and Luck... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 The Jets arent winning a Football game in 2020 so unless 2 teams go winless, then yes, the Jets should land Trevor Lawrence and it's going to be an absolute disaster and I for one, am thrilled about it! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, THE BARON said: I agree with Dabo. I have seen Lawrene play ball and I have heard him speak. There has been NOTHING like this to come along since Joe Namath. He is a once in a lifetime prospect. Better than Elway, Manning and Luck... For gods sake. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, THE BARON said: I'm holding my appraisal of Joe Douglas as "incomplete" thus far. I tend to believe he knows what he is doing and is the man for the job. I cant blame him for Becton or Mims getting injured. Thus far, Becton looks to be the best player of the 2020 draft. From what I have seen so far, I'd call Becton "Revis Special". He looks that good. I also agree with the trade for Adams. It was a good deal especially because Adams was a disruptive influence AND did not fill a premium position like QB, LT or absolute shut-down CB. Those are the guys you break the bank for, Not a box safety. I do think they made a mistake letting Robby walk. He was the most entertaining thing about the Jets since a Rex presser. what free agents did he bring in that you like? what contracts did he do that you liked? Adams became a disruptive influence once he saw the situation-he was stuck on a terrible team with a terrible coach and a gm that did not want to pay him his market value. The only thing Joe has done is he drafted what looks like a productive guy on the O line-but that is no great achievement to find a player early in round one that looks good-what about all the other picks? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, JiF said: The Jets arent winning a Football game in 2020 so unless 2 teams go winless, then yes, the Jets should land Trevor Lawrence and it's going to be an absolute disaster and I for one, am thrilled about it! TL will need a line, a quality rb a quality te and quality wrs to succeed along with a quality coach and gm-we have none of those lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maxman Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 The Giants playing in that division for a first year coach will mean they win a game or two. The Falcons switching coaches will mean they win a game or two. Keep Gase. The tide has turned. Let this play out and he will get them to 0 and 16. Trade Q at the deadline. Trade Darnold in the offseason. Start completely over. Sucks, I like Sam a lot and I know he can be great. But the Jets have no other choice. Build from the ground up. Give Joe Douglas total control over football operations. 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: For gods sake. Here me now and believe me later. He'll be the first Jet to upstage Namath... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, kmnj said: TL will need a line, a quality rb a quality te and quality wrs to succeed along with a quality coach and gm-we have none of those lol My opinions of Lawrence aside (he's not a cant miss), we will be drafting a Qb who has been in arguably the most superior program in the NCAA, surrounded by the best talent and elite coaching being asked to do next to nothing to win and putting him in the absolute worst situation in the NFL and giving him Adam Gase as a HC. What could go wrong? 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viffer Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, kmnj said: I love the conspiracy theories that some how gase and joe were in a secret plan to suck at ever aspect of their job for the greater good and at that time they will be able to turn on the switch and some how be able to be productive at their jobs. The reality is Gase sucks and Joe has done a terrible job so far. The talk by lots on here was playoffs this year and now the revised talk was it was a master plan to tank... It's not a conspiracy theory that CJ may have given JD a green light for a ground-up rebuild, which Gase bought in on. Gase has probably convinced CJ that nobody could win with the personnel Mac gave him, and that explains the Mac firing. Gase probably got a guarantee from CJ that he would have at least through 2021 to turn things around under the rebuild. Don't be surprised if Gase is the HC next season. And we're not going to get Trevor. No way we go 0-16, which would be absolutely necessary to get him. And we lose the strength of schedule tie breaker to any other contender for the #1, so the chances we get Trevor are almost zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 We just ruined a QB if they get a legit coach and actually spend money I’ll get excited 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, kmnj said: TL will need a line, a quality rb a quality te and quality wrs to succeed along with a quality coach and gm-we have none of those lol With the stock pile of draft picks and money that they have, the Jets can get a star RB, WR and TWO new starters for the offensive line in a single off season without question. The defense on the other hand. They need 3 LBs and two CBs and at least one DL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, kmnj said: what free agents did he bring in that you like? what contracts did he do that you liked? Adams became a disruptive influence once he saw the situation-he was stuck on a terrible team with a terrible coach and a gm that did not want to pay him his market value. The only thing Joe has done is he drafted what looks like a productive guy on the O line-but that is no great achievement to find a player early in round one that looks good-what about all the other picks? All good points... I'm basing my assessment more on what he has been involved with before he got to the Jets. The jury is still out on his draft class and at least we can say he was dynamic in attempting to shore up the offensive line without going hog ass wild giving away cap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viffer Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, JiF said: My opinions of Lawrence aside (he's not a cant miss), we will be drafting a Qb who has been in arguably the most superior program in the NCAA, surrounded by talent and elite coaching being asked to do next to nothing to win and putting him in the absolute worst situation in the NFL and giving him Adam Gase as a HC. What could go wrong? I don't follow college football but based on all the Trevor talk I watched his game last weekend. I didn't see one good pass; yes, lots of receptions, but they were more a function of good WR play, passes at the knees, passes behind the receiver. I did not see one pass hit the receiver in stride. Any many were WAY off the mark. Granted, this is a small sample, but this small sample so far has me believing your take, that it is part Trevor, and part the talent around him. I'll withhold judgment until I see more of him. And it he is that good, then the football gods will never let us get him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, JiF said: My opinions of Lawrence aside (he's not a cant miss), we will be drafting a Qb who has been in arguably the most superior program in the NCAA, surrounded by the best talent and elite coaching being asked to do next to nothing to win and putting him in the absolute worst situation in the NFL and giving him Adam Gase as a HC. What could go wrong? Nobody on next years team will be wearing a Jets uniform with Adam Gase as their head coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohhthepain Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Football gods hate the Jets. Not a chance in hell we get 1st pick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 31 minutes ago, THE BARON said: Right... But lets just say. This tank job was orchestrated by Gase himself. With both CJ and JD in on it and in full agreement. I heard the NY Jets are hiding a UFO that landed on the practice field at Florham Park. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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UnknownJetFan Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 56 minutes ago, THE BARON said: Here are just a few mock drafts that have TL going to the Jets first overall. As the season progresses, it will be spoken about as "a lock" https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2021-nfl-mock-draft-bengals-and-dolphins-give-young-franchise-qbs-familiar-weapons-steelers-address-corner/ https://walterfootball.com/draft2021.php https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2021-nfl-mock-draft-first-round-newman-october/ https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/2021-nfl-mock-draft-drae-harris-2.0 You wanna bet Lawrence is already getting used to the idea of being a Jet ??? Wanna bet Joe Douglas is already priming the channels of communication with the Lawrence people ??? This guy is going to be a Jet. Well we are fans, but our owners think of this as a business mainly. Woody was a guy that would make moves he felt would get the fans to spend money, come to the games, etc. So, If we get the number 1 pick, and then after that get a new HC , it lines it up for next season to have that new HC with Trevor Lawrence and lets face it that would be the best promotion to get fans back into the fray buying jerseys, coming to the stadium which I assume by next season will either allow a chunk or all fans back in because by then some vaccine should be ready. Because if what I just stated doesn't happen it is likely no matter how many fans are allowed in the stadium, there would be only ones from the opposing teams mainly and other memorabilia, jerseys, hats. etc. will make no money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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