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49 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

True.

But of those three guys and the 18 possible games that could have been played between them we've seen what, 7 or 8 player-games so far?  Darnold has missed a couple, Becton missed a couple, Mims has missed all of them.  Last week included NONE of those 3.

It would be nice to see at least 4 games before this season ends that includes all of Darnold, Perriman, Mims, Crowder, Becton, McGovern, Lewis, and Fant on the field.  I don't even care what RB or TE is out there, or if GVR, Josh Andrews or whoever plays RG.  But we have yet to see that group play together once and most often it has been missing at least 2 or 3 of them at all times.

Yup.  The team stinks, but I am hoping we see that there are a few more pieces in place for next season than might be apparent.

 I don't think it is crazy to think we may have at least 3 spots on the OL locked down.  Becton at LT, Fant or Edoga at RT.  Edoga has looked good when he has played, woudl be really encouraging if he shows he can be a starting RT .  Then either McGovern returns to form where he has been a solid C,  or maybe Clark can do something if he gets a chance.  We will still need to add a piece or two next season, but we could hve a decent foundation.

And at the WR position, we know Crowder is an above average slot guy.  Mims is the key though.  Once he gets ont he field (if he gets ont he field) if he proves he can be the X we have needed for so long and if the Smiths can be decent 4th and 5th receivers, we may only need a strong Z to round out the group.  Mims is the key -- if he sucks, we are pretty much exactly where we were headint into this season.

RB and TE are disasters.  Looks like those positions may need total rebuilds.  And of course we will probably stillb e looking for a QB.  But maybe, just maybe the cupboard is not quite so bare as it appears right now.

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44 minutes ago, CTM said:

Sure, all i;m saying is this idea that we get the #1 pick and Darnold, Mims and Becton all play good football these last 10 games is likely mutually exclusive. One or the other, you're wishing for your cake and to eat it too. I've got news for you tho, Crusher already at all the cakes

And if some of the young guys can perfrom, and we win a handful lof games and pick 5th.  Is that really so bad.  Maybe it is because I am not completely sold on Lawrence as the next great QB.  Besides when is the last time the "next great QB" really was the "next great QB".

How many of the best QBs in the game went 1 overall.  Wilson, Rodgers, Mahomes, Roethlisberger, Brady, Brees.   All great QBs, all Super Bowl Champs.  Not a #1 overall in the group.  We might be better off if some of the young OL, WRs & Darnold show they can play and we win a few games.  You know where you find most of the #1 overall picks -- ranked 21 and below in QBR this season: Stafford, Mayfield, Burrow, Murray, Newton.  Plus #2 overall Wentz & Trubisky.  And Darnold at #3.  All in the bottom 12.  And that doesn't include Jameis Winston who is on the bench.  Only top 3 overall QBs in the top 20 are Goff and Ryan.

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2 hours ago, Jetster said:

That SHOULD BE THE PLAN! Not all of our draft capital just HIGH PICKS this time on offense instead of defense. We picked defense 9/10 years in the 1st round & have nothing to show for it. Defense gets the later picks until we build a Oline & have weapons around our QB. 

I agree with this.  Especially if we pick #1 overall and draft Lawrence.  We need to do everything we can to put him in a position to succeed.  And that means spending valuable draft resources on offense.  If Lawrence is our QB next year, I don't care if we give up 30+ points per game if we can surround our QB with a competent set of NFL weapoons and an above average OL.  And if it takes more than one offseason to build that offense, then I would have no issue if we drafted Lawrence and sat him for most of his first season.

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44 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Yup. Win something like 6-8 games.....or win 0.

We don't want the in-between.

A lot depends on Darnold.  If some of the young guys play well, but Darnold still plays like the 32nd ranked QB in the NFL, which he is npw per QB rating, then we will be in discussion for 1 overall throughout the season.  If he eleveates his play as he gets some weapons back and guys like Mims, Becton, Edoga, Clark, V Smith, J Simth can play.  Then  we probably win enough to lose out in the Lawrence sweepstakes.  And that would not be a bad outcome.

Worst case scenario to me is we suck, but win a couple of fluky games, and despite the worst roster in the league we end up picking 5 or 6.  And it becomes even worst when we win 2 of our last 3 and the Johnsons's retain Gase because of how a 3-13 team rallied around thier Coach.

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