RSJ Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Sam will end up being a solid starter in their league on the right roster. He isn’t going anywhere. No not the next John elway but will end up being a solid starter somewhere I dont see it. Even solid starters can read a bliitz and throw it hot once in a while.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, JTJet said: No, but its Adam Gase's Mike Maccagnan's fault the team is 0-6 Fixed it for you. SAR I 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Most likely No one has been a bigger Darnold fan than me in the past, but he’s toast. At least here he is. Time to move on If you can get a 2nd from Dallas, then trade him today, start Morgan or White the rest of the way and fully embrace the tank. I still think we are better off holding onto him until the offseason, just in case something crazy happens. But agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Sam is crap. I honestly don't know if he always did, or if the Jets "ruined him", but at this point it really doesn't matter. Move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 33 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: The problem is - he was better his rookie year. He has regressed under Gase. That certainly doesn't excuse Sam but Gase, absolutely, has to take a good share of the blame. Sam has regressed under Jordan Palmer. Even though we're entering Week 8, Sam still has spent more time under Jordan Palmer's tutelage than he has Adam Gase this year. Sam lived at Jordan's place for months, concentrating only on football, living eating breathing football. And it did no good. SAR I 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, RSJ said: I dont see it. Even solid starters can read a bliitz and throw it hot once in a while. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Increasingly I feel this way too. The thing about Darnold is that he doesn't really have the makeup of a game manager -- he's not smart and efficient. Even at his best he'll making jaw dropping throws against his body or scramble around and throw to a spot... On a better team he'd have better numbers but might actually be more of a liability because good teams can't afford bone headed mistakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, SAR I said: Fixed it for you. SAR I Gase is a clown, and anyone that doesn't recognize that manifest truth is an imbecile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, JTJet said: Not that he is great, but Flacco looked just as bad and with a lot more experience. The offense is broken, iron man couldn't succeed here. Maybe Sam is flawed, maybe ruined, maybe salvageable, but until Gase is gone it won't matter. A decent OL wouldn't hurt either and some stability at WR. Edited October 25, 2020 by bostonmajet 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 21 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: He just can’t pull the trigger, either he doesn’t trust what he is seeing or he is too afraid of making a mistake. Those are very tough to overcome. It's because he has all of the physical talent but he's lacking between the ears. We're three years in and he still can't read a blitz and hit the hot route. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Gase is a clown, and anyone that doesn't recognize that manifest truth is an imbecile. The players and coaches don't agree with you. They played harder today than they have all year. It's no secret that the players could have gotten Gase fired today if they wanted to. They showed up and played hard instead. This particular team is not good but the Jets organization took great strides today and I'm proud of them. SAR I 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, bostonmajet said: Not that he is great, but Flacco looked just as bad and with a lot more experience. The offense is broken, iron man couldn't succeed here. Maybe Sam is flawed, maybe ruined, maybe salvageable, but until Gase is gone it won't matter. A decent OL wouldn't hurt either and some stability at WR. Agreed. This offense is so poorly constructed. The slot receiver is the focal point in the offense, Gase can’t scheme his outside receivers open to save his life. Mims has 4 catches early on, the Bills adjust and nothing the rest of the day. Gase is beyond done around here. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, SAR I said: Sam has regressed under Adam Gase. Even though we're entering Week 8, Sam still spent more time under Jordan Palmer's tutelage than he has Adam Gase this year. Thats inexcusable and pathetic for a guy that was tasked with and paid to "develop" Sam Darnold as the primary focus of his employment. Sam has been stuck in an incoherent, antiquated offense, stuck with a HC/OC who is unable to communicate with his players, or look people in the eye, and comes off like a coked up, sociopathic fraud. SAR I Fixed that for YOU, you insipid, pathetic troll. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet_Engine1 Posted October 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, SAR I said: The players and coaches don't agree with you. They played harder today than they have all year. It's no secret that the players could have gotten Gase fired today if they wanted to. They showed up and played hard instead. This particular team is not good but the Jets organization took great strides today and I'm proud of them. SAR I 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 time to reset the clock. Not that I think Lawrence is going to help but it looks like it needs to be done 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet Life Posted October 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2020 Loved Sam but he is toast. Yes the roster and coach are bad but throwing for 4 yards all half against a bad bills secondary is inexcusable. Look what Burrow is doing and what Herbert has done this year. Sam is done. Get Lawrence or Fields 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 27 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Learn.....from who? Listen Gase sux, but he needs to learn to get rid of the ball faster when he can easily see a blitz is coming. He's done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Does this mean we get the 3 picks back ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blitz Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, slimjasi said: He has two bad habits that seem like they are probably going to stick : 1) He holds the ball too long (takes too long to get through his professions) 2) He forces the ball into traffic way too often - Lots of silly interceptions Maybe he can develop into a good QB in a better situation, maybe he can’t. But I’m pretty sure he is done here I’ll add 3) Throws ducks off his back foot when getting pressure up the middle. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet hustle Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Wheres Nico002 Hell beg to differ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Nick Blitz said: I’ll add 3) Throws ducks off his back foot when getting pressure up the middle. Thats called "fear". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Keep him after we draft TL. His value is so low why dump him for a 5th ?. May be able to steal a 3rd or 4th at the deadline next year . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ken Schroy said: Listen Gase sux, but he needs to learn to get rid of the ball faster when he can easily see a blitz is coming. He's done. Sometimes it's the player. Time to call it. Sam is done. Maccagnan's most important pick is a bust. Makes sense. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I'd like to see him dealt to Dallas for a second and just play Morgan. What else do we have to lose. This team is not winning a single game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, SAR I said: Fixed it for you. SAR I I DO stand corrected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I feel for Sam, the human being. One year under Todd Bowles with minimal talent. Then two nightmare years under Gase, the worst offensive coach in the NFL, with rampant injuries (Gase Curse (tm)) and Gase himself calling plays. I don't know, I doubted Darnold from long before we drafted him.....but honestly, I'm not sure any QB could look good with Gase, much less Bowles. Especially with this 3-year talent pool. Don't get me wrong, Sam Darnold is exactly what I told you folks he was, he's Patrick Ramsey reborn. So many of the same habits, it's just sad, especially the happy feet in the pocket and penchant for interceptions. Guess everyone is in on losing every game now for the new must-have Savior. Glad I did other stuff today, first time in a long long time I chose to miss a game, and honestly, I feel nothing. Guess that says alot. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, JTJet said: I DO stand corrected. Thank you sir, class move. While Gase is far from perfect, the problem with this team lies in a decade of bad drafts by Idzik and Maccagnan and it's going to take Douglas and Gase years to build the roster back up. The good news? We have 28 players on 1-year contracts and 9 picks in the first 3 rounds in the next 2 drafts. We can rebuild around Lawrence rather quickly. SAR I 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, bostonmajet said: Not that he is great, but Flacco looked just as bad and with a lot more experience. The offense is broken, iron man couldn't succeed here. Maybe Sam is flawed, maybe ruined, maybe salvageable, but until Gase is gone it won't matter. A decent OL wouldn't hurt either and some stability at WR. Wtf. I didnt even say this. You need re-edit that post sir. I dont want my name tied to such swill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Thank you sir, class move. While Gase is far from perfect, the problem with this team lies in a decade of bad drafts by Idzik and Maccagnan and it's going to take Douglas and Gase years to build the roster back up. The good news? We have 28 players on 1-year contracts and 9 picks in the first 3 rounds in the next 2 drafts. We can rebuild around Lawrence rather quickly. SAR II agree. Good post.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet hustle Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: I feel for Sam. One year under Todd Bowles with minimal talent. Two nightmare years under Gase, with rampant injuries (Gase Curse (tm)) and Gase himself calling plays. I don't know, I doubted Darnold from long before we drafted him.....but honestly, I'm not sure any QB could look good with Gase, much less Bowles. Don't get me wrong, Sam Darnold is exactly what I told you folks he was, he's Patrick Ramsey. So many of the same habits, it's just sad. Guess everyone is in on losing every game now for the new must-have Savior. Glad I did other stuff today, first time in a long long time I chose to miss a game, and honestly, I feel nothing. Guess that says alot. Sam will have a chance to redeem his career with a real nfl franchise. No need to cry for him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I'll admit it, I was wrong. Darnold is a POS. He is Sanchez 2.0. Gaze still sucks, but Darnold is a sh#$show. I'm ready to move on. #nomoreuscqbs 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, SAR I said: Thank you sir, class move. While Gase is far from perfect, the problem with this team lies in a decade of bad drafts by Idzik and Maccagnan and it's going to take Douglas and Gase years to build the roster back up. The good news? We have 28 players on 1-year contracts and 9 picks in the first 3 rounds in the next 2 drafts. We can rebuild around Lawrence rather quickly. SAR I Its going to be an AVALANCHE of comp picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jet hustle said: Sam will have a chance to redeem his career with a real nfl franchise. No need to cry for him. I think the rest of Sam's career will involve him wearing a cap and holding a clipboard. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, Fantasy Island said: I'll admit it, I was wrong. Darnold is a POS. He is Sanchez 2.0. Gaze still sucks, but Darnold is a sh#$show. I'm ready to move on. #nomoreuscqbs Darnold isnt Sanchez. A more apt description would be he is BEING Sanchezed by the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jet hustle said: Sam will have a chance to redeem his career with a real nfl franchise. No need to cry for him. Nobody is crying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 32 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Sam will end up being a solid starter in their league on the right roster. He isn’t going anywhere. No not the next John elway but will end up being a solid starter somewhere He is Sanchez 2.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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