Augustiniak Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: Increasingly I feel this way too. The thing about Darnold is that he doesn't really have the makeup of a game manager -- he's not smart and efficient. Even at his best he'll making jaw dropping throws against his body or scramble around and throw to a spot... On a better team he'd have better numbers but might actually be more of a liability because good teams can't afford bone headed mistakes. He still thinks he can make the magical play every play and that leads to sacks. And when he decides to run it’s usually too late. sam will never become an efficient qb until he realizes that he needs to check down sooner and take 4-5 yards rather than hold onto the ball and get sacked. There are guys running underneath routes but he’s usually hoping for the big play. Take the yards, get first downs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fleming Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 A casualty of organizational confusion and bad coaching. I hope he will redeem himself, but until then: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 54 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: He just can’t pull the trigger, either he doesn’t trust what he is seeing or he is too afraid of making a mistake. Those are very tough to overcome. 47 minutes ago, slimjasi said: He has two bad habits that seem like they are probably going to stick : 1) He holds the ball too long (takes too long to get through his progressions) 2) He forces the ball into traffic way too often - Lots of silly interceptions Maybe he can develop into a good QB in a better situation, maybe he can’t. But I’m pretty sure he is done here 45 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said: I held on to hope until today, but after that, it is over for Sam here. Sucks to admit it, but he doesn't have it I am afraid. I can't be bothered watching Lawrence, Fields or whoever. Seems pointless when we have shown no competency to develop a QB. 41 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Sam definitely has his flaws. The hope is that he can improve with age. If we get the #1 pick, though, it won't be here. Hes broken. Lost his confidence. Done as a high level prospect, hes just another never was. Good day, sir. Sorry Mr and Mrs Darnold, but hey, now you're Rich as ****, just like the guy that failed your son. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Ian Fleming said: A casualty of organizational confusion and bad coaching. I hope he will redeem himself, but until then: Thunderball....lol. My favorite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RSJ Posted October 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2020 Darnold isnt Sanchez. A more apt description would be he is BEING Sanchezed by the Jets. That doesn’t explain how Burrow goes to Cinci and does well. Darnold just doesnt have it. Its ok because most get to the NFL and find out they dont. Very few do have it.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: He still thinks he can make the magical play every play and that leads to sacks. And when he decides to run it’s usually too late. sam will never become an efficient qb until he realizes that he needs to check down sooner and take 4-5 yards rather than hold onto the ball and get sacked. There are guys running underneath routes but he’s usually hoping for the big play. Take the yards, get first downs. Part of it is that we're so sh*tty that he feels like he has to go above-and-beyond to make things happen. Keep in mind that this is the only NFL franchise he's ever known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 If the jet do get the #1 pick or #2 they will take lawrence or fields for sure. I fully expect darnold to have somewhat of a resurgence on another team though, He is not as bad as he looks right now. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Wang Doodle Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Goodbye to Sam Darnold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, RSJ said: That doesn’t explain how Burrow goes to Cinci and does well. Darnold just doesnt have it. Its ok because most get to the NFL and find out they dont. Very few do have it. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Tee Higgins, AJ Green & Boyd with Gio. WEAPONES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jet Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Ken Schroy said: Sam is a stubborn dumbass that won't learn. Would you learn what Gase and Loggains have to teach? Me neither. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Part of it is that we're so sh*tty that he feels like he has to go above-and-beyond to make things happen. Keep in mind that this is the only NFL franchise he's ever known. Perhaps, but at some point if you keep getting sacked and turning it over wouldn’t you try to just get first downs and get some momentum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 43 minutes ago, RobR said: It's because he has all of the physical talent but he's lacking between the ears. We're three years in and he still can't read a blitz and hit the hot route. He doesn't have it between the legs either. Darnold has no balls. Kid is as soft as cotton. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 54 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Joe Burrow throws for 400 yards today. Burrow will set an NFL record for rookie passing yardage... eventually be an all-pro... and give a speech in Canton someday. He is that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Samtorobby47 said: I still think he’d be a good QB on a solid roster but he needs a new start. And so do the Jets. That's no endorsement, actually, but a bare minimum for an NFL starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Tee Higgins, AJ Green & Boyd with Gio. WEAPONES!!!Their OL is terrible. So bad that our OL coach was only there a year. None of those weapons were doing very much before Burrow got there. Burrow still needs to make strides. He isnt all the way there yet and it takes time for DCs to find a QBs weaknesses. But so far he looks very good.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, RoadFan said: He doesn't have it between the legs either. Darnold has no balls. Kid is as soft as cotton. I wouldn't describe him soft as cotton since he ends up taking some licks. His biggest problem is that he's not smart enough to realize what's happening around him and what to do pre snap. Maybe that is why Gase won't let him call an audible. No different than Sanchez getting the whole red light, green light BS. He'll end up being a QB with all of the physical tools but will never put it all together because he's lacking in the noggin department. It happens and is always the hardest part too evaluate when looking at prospects. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, RobR said: I wouldn't describe him soft as cotton since he ends up taking some licks. His biggest problem is that he's not smart enough to realize what's happening around him and what to do pre snap. Maybe that is why Gase won't let him call an audible. No different than Sanchez getting the whole red light, green light BS. He'll end up being a QB with all of the physical tools but will never put it all together because he's lacking in the noggin department. It happens and is always the hardest part too evaluate when looking at prospects. When I say no balls, not only referring to taking hits. I mean competitive balls. Can you ever see Darnold leading his team to wins from behind ala like a Matthew Stafford? I can't. Darnold is a backup. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, RSJ said: That doesn’t explain how Burrow goes to Cinci and does well. Darnold just doesnt have it. Its ok because most get to the NFL and find out they dont. Very few do have it. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Burrow is irrelevant to the comparison of Sanchez and Darnold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted October 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2020 59 minutes ago, JTJet said: Burrow is irrelevant to the comparison of Sanchez and Darnold. It’s absolutely relevant. Sanchez was given plenty to work with and when he was asked to shoulder the load just a tiny bit, he sh*t his pants. There’s no such thing as being “Sanchez’d”. Sanchez and Darnold simply suck and Burrow, who is on a team just as bad as us, is living proof that you don’t have to have Hall Of Fame talent around you to look promising as a young QB. Burrow is a young promising QB worthy of his 1st round selection, despite the turmoil around him. Sam just sucks. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Sanchez, Geno, Fitz, McCown and now Darnold. And this franchise expects its fans to just accept this ineptitude. Please move this team out of the NY Metro Area. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 17 minutes ago, Mogglez said: It’s absolutely relevant. Sanchez was given plenty to work with and when he was asked to shoulder the load just a tiny bit, he sh*t his pants. There’s no such thing as being “Sanchezed”. Sanchez and Darnold simply suck and Burrow, who is on a team just as bad as us, is living proof that you don’t have to have hall of fame talent around you to look promising as a young QB. Burrow is a young promising QB worthy of his 1st round selection, despite the turmoil around him. Sam just sucks. Stop. Just stop. Cincy is better coached than we are, has a real NFL running back, and some WRs that show up. We have none of those. We arent wanting to see Sam with hall of fame talent around him, but practice squad talent isnt going to cut it either. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan4life90 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, JTJet said: Stop. Just stop. Cincy is better coached than we are, has a real NFL running back, and some WRs that show up. We have none of those. We arent wanting to see Sam with hall of fame talent around him, but practice squad talent isnt going to cut it either. This. Burrows would have looked just as bad as Darnold has this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxville Jets Fan Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Samtorobby47 said: I still think he’d be a good QB on a solid roster but he needs a new start. And so do the Jets. My thoughts exactly. If I’m Pittsburgh I would absolutely give a late first rounder (likely 28-32) for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Aussie Jet said: Would you learn what Gase and Loggains have to teach? Me neither. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fleming Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Thunderball....lol. My favorite! Ah, a fellow person of culture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ian Fleming said: Ah, a fellow person of culture. Watched it with my kids recently, and also watched Moonraker. They preferred Connery, because they have been properly socialized. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 8 hours ago, JTJet said: Stop. Just stop. Cincy is better coached than we are, has a real NFL running back, and some WRs that show up. We have none of those. We arent wanting to see Sam with hall of fame talent around him, but practice squad talent isnt going to cut it either. No. You stop excusing Sam like he was your first born son. Zac Taylor may be better than Gase, but he’s not far off from Adam at all. If you actually watch Cincinnati games, you’d know that. I’ve been following him for a while now because I liked Zac Taylor as a potential OC. He’s been awful. That “real RB” didn’t play today and Burrow still put up 400 yards and 3TDs. As for the WR conundrum? Sam Darnold: - Missed a wide open Mims for a touchdown in the beginning of the game, and plenty of other times in the second half. - Got Breshad Perriman killed. - Missed a wide open Chris Herndon for, what would have been, a 50+ yard catch and run TD. - Threw a number of dangerous passes into double and triple coverage, 1 of which was a clean pick, and the other was batted for a pick. He’s been missing guys, misreading coverages, and not seeing wide open receivers since week 1. Enough with the “practice squad” nonsense. This group, without Crowder, should have put up 14 more points than they did. If Sam wasn’t a total moron, he also doesn’t throw the pick before half, taking away 3 points from Buffalo. The All-22 film isn’t even out yet and we know that that Sam Darnold cost the team 17 points, by himself, in a game that was an 8 point loss. The score should have been, as of now, without the All-22, a 24-15 Jets win. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, 32EBoozer said: Tee Higgins, AJ Green & Boyd with Gio. WEAPONES!!! Joe Mixon (though I know he's hurt now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 @Mogglez "- Missed a wide open Chris Herndon for, what would have been, a 50+ yard catch an run TD" Only issue I have with your post. No doubt stone hands drops the pass. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 17 minutes ago, Jetsfan4life90 said: This. Burrows would have looked just as bad as Darnold has this season. He’s already proving that he wouldn’t, but keep spouting this nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, munchmemory said: @Mogglez "- Missed a wide open Chris Herndon for, what would have been, a 50+ yard catch an run TD" Only issue I have with your post. No doubt stone hands drops the pass. Be that as it may, it can’t be ignored lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Burrows would look awful here.. the interior of Joe D's fabulous line makeover has been pretty down right shtty. I don't think there's really any disputing the fact that Darnold looked like he could be a star in his 1st year and Gase destroyed him. I also believe he'll bounce back here or somewhere else once he escapes Gases web of suck. Still think if they don't land the 1st pick they're keeping Sam and continuing to build around him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Pac said: Burrows would look awful here.. the interior of Joe D's fabulous line makeover has been pretty down right shtty. I don't think there's really any disputing the fact that Darnold looked like he could be a star in his 1st year and Gase destroyed him. I also believe he'll bounce back here or somewhere else once he escapes Gases web of suck. Still think if they don't land the 1st pick they're keeping Sam and continuing to build around him. You have the absolute worst takes ever when it comes to the Jets and football in general. Oh and his name is Burrow....at least get that right. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, RobR said: You have the absolute worst takes ever when it comes to the Jets and football in general. Oh and his name is Burrow....at least get that right. Right.. so when this take is proven to be correct like most of my others we'll just forget I said it. BobR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, JTJet said: Wtf. I didnt even say this. You need re-edit that post sir. I dont want my name tied to such swill. I hit the quote button in your comment, but apparently the tool didn't adjust the actual sender. I don't think people are keeping score, but i will change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.