TMAC 486 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 These are the points scored by the winning teams in Week 7. The Jets scored 10 and lost to an opponent that was held to six field goals. The Jets average 12.1 per game. In the last three games, they scored a total of 20 points. In the second half of yesterday's loss to the Bills, they accumulated 4 total yards from scrimmage in the second half of the game. I really don't want CJ to fire Gase until the season ends. Keeping him around is the best chance we have of getting the number one pick. Even if Trevor Lawrence manages to avoid becoming a Jet, we have a good shot of getting a very high quality player. My only concern is that CJ is so incompetent and stupid that he might not fire Gase--or might not fire him soon enough. Also, anyone who believes Gase is coaching where the future of football is going should not be involved in any way in the hiring of the new HC or any other football decision for that matter. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Sonny Werblin 4,844 Posted October 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2020 The longer the Jets wait to fire Gase, the more likely they are to get the overall #1 pick and, at the same time, convince those that care about Lawrence's future that he should never play for the Jets 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryu79 1,161 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 17 minutes ago, TMAC said: These are the points scored by the winning teams in Week 7. The Jets scored 10 and lost to an opponent that was held to six field goals. The Jets average 12.1 per game. In the last three games, they scored a total of 20 points. In the second half of yesterday's loss to the Bills, they accumulated 4 total yards from scrimmage in the second half of the game. I really don't want CJ to fire Gase until the season ends. Keeping him around is the best chance we have of getting the number one pick. Even if Trevor Lawrence manages to avoid becoming a Jet, we have a good shot of getting a very high quality player. My only concern is that CJ is so incompetent and stupid that he might not fire Gase--or might not fire him soon enough. Also, anyone who believes Gase is coaching where the future of football is going should not be involved in any way in the hiring of the new HC or any other football decision for that matter. I was like....are those the numbers from LOST? 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fantasy Island 3,738 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 What are the results of Gase's first IQ test along with the numerous retakes? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
82nd Airborne 669 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 3,2,1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TMAC 486 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 Realistically, what options does Trevor have? You either: 1) stay in school for another year at great economic risk; 2) or don't play professional football. Someone correct me if I am wrong. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chirorob 4,761 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: The longer the Jets wait to fire Gase, the more likely they are to get the overall #1 pick and, at the same time, convince those that care about Lawrence's future that he should never play for the Jets How would making an interim HC make the Jets more or less appealing? If they hire a proper HC, with all their pics, it can turn around. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Barkus 1,681 Posted October 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2020 36-24-36 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Integrity28 73,597 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Thought this was a keno thread. Love me some keno. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barry McCockinner 14,647 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, TMAC said: Realistically, what options does Trevor have? You either: 1) stay in school for another year at great economic risk; 2) or don't play professional football. Someone correct me if I am wrong. See: Manning, Eli 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonny Werblin 4,844 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, chirorob said: How would making an interim HC make the Jets more or less appealing? If they hire a proper HC, with all their pics, it can turn around. It would show that the Jets are capable of making a correct decision and are not and absolute train wreck of an organization. If it results in Darnold not getting hit as much through either better protection schemes or properly teaching Darnold how to recognize a blitz and execute a hot read (I have no idea if he can), it show the Jets as an organization care about the well-being of their QB. It is NOT about the team. It is NOT about winning or losing. It is about the organization, which is currently viewed as the gang that can't shoot straight. They need to change that narrative. Doing something now, rather than forcing their players to play for a clearly incompetent HC, helps change the narrative. Your way -- waiting -- could work, BUT it would have to be a pretty special hire of a HC to change what is becoming a rock solid narrative. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
playtowinthegame 6,133 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 6-6-6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonny Werblin 4,844 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, TMAC said: Realistically, what options does Trevor have? You either: 1) stay in school for another year at great economic risk; 2) or don't play professional football. Someone correct me if I am wrong. Realistically, what options do the Jets have if Lawrence says he will not play for the Jets? After drafting a player who outright refused to play for them they either 1) watch him sit out and be true to his statement; 2) watch him pout and complain his way through camp to shoot his way out of Dodge (see e.g. Jamal Adams); or 3) trade him for far less than you'd get for the pick because teams now know you have no other choice but to trade him. The Jets need to send a "plant" reporter to a Clemson press conference and have them ask Lawrence if he'd play for the Jets if they finish 0-16 and draft him. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoJoTownsell1 11,105 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: See: Manning, Eli Couldn't every college player theoretically do that to the Jets this coming draft and we end up with no one? Aside from a couple of former players spewing crap and reporters generating clicks, what actual info do we have to suggest that Lawrence will pull a move like Eli? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoJoTownsell1 11,105 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: Realistically, what options do the Jets have if Lawrence says he will not play for the Jets? After drafting a player who outright refused to play for them they either 1) watch him sit out and be true to his statement; 2) watch him pout and complain his way through camp to shoot his way out of Dodge (see e.g. Jamal Adams); or 3) trade him for far less than you'd get for the pick because teams now know you have no other choice but to trade him. The Jets need to send a "plant" reporter to a Clemson press conference and have them ask Lawrence if he'd play for the Jets if they finish 0-16 and draft him. Why? We will find out after the college season when he hires an agent. On the off chance that he refuses to play for the Jets we can trade the pick for a boatload of picks to move down 1 spot and take Fields. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jgb 27,749 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Couldn't every college player theoretically do that to the Jets this coming draft and we end up with no one? Aside from a couple of former players spewing crap and reporters generating clicks, what actual info do we have to suggest that Lawrence will pull a move like Eli? The difference is that the #1 pick this year would have outrageous trade value. Lawrence (or his agent) would know that the Jets are unlikely to risk walking away with nothing if there is a credible threat that Lawrence won't sign. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonny Werblin 4,844 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Why? We will find out after the college season when he hires an agent. On the off chance that he refuses to play for the Jets we can trade the pick for a boatload of picks to move down 1 spot and take Fields. I guess to stop the rampant speculation. But, your way works too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Larz 71,409 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Wait the Jets offense is bad? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN 3,181 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 I thought we were playing BINGO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetstream23 29,850 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 He’s sending random codes to the silos. He’s trying to launch the missiles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BROOKLYN JET 7,022 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 007 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peekskill68 1,965 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: Realistically, what options do the Jets have if Lawrence says he will not play for the Jets? After drafting a player who outright refused to play for them they either 1) watch him sit out and be true to his statement; 2) watch him pout and complain his way through camp to shoot his way out of Dodge (see e.g. Jamal Adams); or 3) trade him for far less than you'd get for the pick because teams now know you have no other choice but to trade him. The Jets need to send a "plant" reporter to a Clemson press conference and have them ask Lawrence if he'd play for the Jets if they finish 0-16 and draft him. If we're sitting at #1, TL's team literally will have input into Gase's replacement. He'd be here... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beerfish 33,459 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: The longer the Jets wait to fire Gase, the more likely they are to get the overall #1 pick and, at the same time, convince those that care about Lawrence's future that he should never play for the Jets This is the big risk, if you tell me we are GUARANTEED to get the 1st pick fine but we are not. If we keep Gase and he continues to destroy the team and players who once looked promising and we squib off a few late wins then the pain is not worth it . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonny Werblin 4,844 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 17 minutes ago, peekskill68 said: If we're sitting at #1, TL's team literally will have input into Gase's replacement. He'd be here... And if I’m the #1 pick and the team is asking ME who to hire as HC, I’m running away, far away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peekskill68 1,965 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: And if I’m the #1 pick and the team is asking ME who to hire as HC, I’m running away, far away. So you're the Johnsons, you've just been thru a humiliating 0-16 run, you've just fired Gase and the whole staff, TL is undeclared for the draft. and you're NOT going to send out feelers to TL's camp about your HC short list? C'mon... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flgreen 28,663 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, peekskill68 said: So you're the Johnsons, you've just been thru a humiliating 0-16 run, you've just fired Gase and the whole staff, TL is undeclared for the draft. and you're NOT going to send out feelers to TL's camp about your HC short list? C'mon... if you have the #1 pick you don't have to send out feelers, you can just pick u the phone and call him. lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonny Werblin 4,844 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, peekskill68 said: So you're the Johnsons, you've just been thru a humiliating 0-16 run, you've just fired Gase and the whole staff, TL is undeclared for the draft. and you're NOT going to send out feelers to TL's camp about your HC short list? C'mon... Do we ask them who we should pick in the draft too? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peekskill68 1,965 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: Do we ask them who we should pick in the draft too? Dude... If you don't think CJ's selection of the next HC of the NYJ isn't going to play into the calculus of Team Trevor's decision to stay in school or declare, then, whatever... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bla bla bla 3,771 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: And if I’m the #1 pick and the team is asking ME who to hire as HC, I’m running away, far away. They may not necessarily come out and ask him but they will be talking to any and everybody to figure out who is most likely to have him succeed. They will base their HC search on Trevor 100% if we land #1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peekskill68 1,965 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: They may not necessarily come out and ask him but they will be talking to any and everybody to figure out who is most likely to have him succeed. They will base their HC search on Trevor 100% if we land #1 They need to make sure 100% he's not going to pull an Eli. The new HC is probably the biggest factor in that. That's my only point... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonny Werblin 4,844 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 47 minutes ago, peekskill68 said: Dude... If you don't think CJ's selection of the next HC of the NYJ isn't going to play into the calculus of Team Trevor's decision to stay in school or declare, then, whatever... His soon to be agent, likely CAA, may request to be consulted to have a kind of veto power over the coach hire, but if you think the Agency is going to stick their necks out and say they want a certain coach (and risk it blowing up in their face), then whatever... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peekskill68 1,965 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: His soon to be agent, likely CAA, may request to be consulted to have a kind of veto power over the coach hire, but if you think the Agency is going to stick their necks out and say they want a certain coach (and risk it blowing up in their face), then whatever... We agree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wonderboy 4,563 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 7 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: The longer the Jets wait to fire Gase, the more likely they are to get the overall #1 pick and, at the same time, convince those that care about Lawrence's future that he should never play for the Jets Nonsense. You keep Gase on and at the two minute warning of the 4th quarter of the last game of the year, and behind 45-6, CJ calls security and they usher Gase off the field. On the scoreboard, it reads: “Gase has just been fired immediately. GW has been named interim HC and will be fired as well after the game. A new HC search is underway immediately for our new FQB Trevor Lawrence. See you all next year. Go Jets!!!” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonny Werblin 4,844 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Wonderboy said: Nonsense. You keep Gase on and at the two minute warning of the 4th quarter of the last game of the year, and behind 45-6, CJ calls security and they usher Gase off the field. On the scoreboard, it reads: “Gase has just been fired immediately. GW has been named interim HC and will be fired as well after the game. A new HC search is underway immediately for our new FQB Trevor Lawrence. See you all next year. Go Jets!!!” New FQB? Who was the old one? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wonderboy 4,563 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, Sonny Werblin said: New FQB? Who was the old one? I think there’s been like 25 since Namath Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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