Philc1 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 22 hours ago, Newjetsfan said: Drafting Fields and trading Darnold would be very Jetsy move...Drafting a sure fire BUST. Fields is going to be really bad in the NFL. Like Geno bad. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newjetsfan Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 8 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Up until this point wouldn't you agree Darnold has been a bust. Yes. But the whole team is a bust...starting with the coach...we need to give Sam another year with a new coach and better support. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Newjetsfan said: Yes. But the whole team is a bust...starting with the coach...we need to give Sam another year with a new coach and better support. No. You don’t try and salvage a bust. You move him away and accept the failure. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, kdels62 said: No. You don’t try and salvage a bust. You move him away and accept the failure. Or you don’t draft an obvious Ohio state qb bust at 2nd overall skippy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: Or you don’t draft an obvious Ohio state qb bust at 2nd overall skippy Meh. I’m cooling on Fields as a finished product. But I already know Sam sucks, like he has since college. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newjetsfan Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, kdels62 said: No. You don’t try and salvage a bust. You move him away and accept the failure. If the whole team is a bust, how can you judge who is and is not? If a diamond was lodged in a big pile of sh*t...you would just throw it away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Newjetsfan said: If the whole team is a bust, how can you judge who is and is not? If a diamond was lodged in a big pile of sh*t...you would just throw it away? If that Diamond was outplayed by Joe Flacco on that "bust" team, I would definitely consider it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newjetsfan Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Grandy said: If that Diamond was outplayed by Joe Flacco on that "bust" team, I would definitely consider it. Joe Flacco lost every game this year...Sam beat two playoff teams. Two teams needed to beat the Jets ar the time to clinch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Newjetsfan said: If the whole team is a bust, how can you judge who is and is not? If a diamond was lodged in a big pile of sh*t...you would just throw it away? If the diamond is probably just a turd you’ve lied to yourself about then yes. Deshaun Watson was on a bad team last year but he was excellent. The same is true for Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, and Baker Mayfield his rookie year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Newjetsfan said: Joe Flacco lost every game this year...Sam beat two playoff teams. Two teams needed to beat the Jets ar the time to clinch. Sam didn’t win anything. He was mostly bad in those games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Top 5 QBs don’t normally go 4-12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newjetsfan Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, kdels62 said: If the diamond is probably just a turd you’ve lied to yourself about then yes. Deshaun Watson was on a bad team last year but he was excellent. The same is true for Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, and Baker Mayfield his rookie year. Seriously...you are comparing rosters and caoching you think was equal to the turditude of the Jets????!!!! Now I know you know nothing about football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Newjetsfan said: Seriously...you are comparing rosters and caoching you think was equal to the turditude of the Jets????!!!! Now I know you know nothing about football. Only one of those teams mentioned didn't fire their HC by the end of the season, all of them were losing teams, and two were fresh off a 0-16, and 1-15 season which are worse than the Jets this year. Ironically the 1-15 team got their only win against Darnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Newjetsfan said: Seriously...you are comparing rosters and caoching you think was equal to the turditude of the Jets????!!!! Now I know you know nothing about football. Me in 2017: Sam Darnold is a real issue and is at most a project QB You, Today: Turditude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Grandy said: Only one of those teams mentioned didn't fire their HC by the end of the season, all of them were losing teams, and two were fresh off a 0-16, and 1-15 season which are worse than the Jets this year. Ironically the 1-15 team got their only win against Darnold. You stop it with those facts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newjetsfan Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Grandy said: Only one of those teams mentioned didn't fire their HC by the end of the season, all of them were losing teams, and two were fresh off a 0-16, and 1-15 season which are worse than the Jets this year. Ironically the 1-15 team got their only win against Darnold. So they must really suck with all the talent around them...of course the coach gets fired, they had the talents..we didn't and don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newjetsfan Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, kdels62 said: You stop it with those facts. Ok. I guess some facts like Sam with two wins against playoff teams isn't a fact but other facts are facts as long as they serve your narrative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, Newjetsfan said: Ok. I guess some facts like Sam with two wins against playoff teams isn't a fact but other facts are facts as long as they serve your narrative? Look up the stats for those games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newjetsfan Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, kdels62 said: Look up the stats for those games Win is a win. But to entertain your one sided logic, Sam's stats are equal or better than J. Allen who won this week. So dink and dunk Allen didn't win this week? His stats are worse than darnold's two wins vs. Playoff teams? Additionally, his long balls are worse than Sam, he was missing wide open recievers beyond ten yards regularly. His third reciever, Cole Beasley could be as good as our #1. In the most team oriented sport, you are judging how Sam sucks without having NFL caliber players around him is stupid and rash. Minus Rodgers (who is arguably one of the top three greatest QBs of all time) All the play off QBs look as good or bad as Darnold...Did you see Brees? Jackson? How are their stats? SAM DID it with off the streets players starting for the Jets and the Worst Coach in the history of sports since the Washington Generals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 46 minutes ago, Newjetsfan said: Win is a win. But to entertain your one sided logic, Sam's stats are equal or better than J. Allen who won this week. So dink and dunk Allen didn't win this week? His stats are worse than darnold's two wins vs. Playoff teams? Additionally, his long balls are horrible...Minus Rodgers (who is arguably one of the top three greatest QBs of all time) All the play off QBs look as good as Darnold...that's with off the streets players starting for the Jets and the Worst Coach in the history of sports since the Washington Generals. Wins are not a QB stat. Fun fact: Josh Allen’s bad playoff game it would be Sam 3rd highest yardage total of the season. And even more fun: if you took Josh Allen’s cumulative stats in the playoff they would be about a quarter of Darnold’s yardage total for the season and a third of his total TDs for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joewilly12 Posted January 26, 2021 Author Share Posted January 26, 2021 2. New York Jets: QB Justin Fields, Ohio State. The prospect of the Jets sticking with Sam Darnold and either picking Penei Sewell here or trading back for more draft picks shouldn’t be ruled out. Nor should the possibility that they use their treasure trove of assets to go and get Deshaun Watson. But for now, picking a quarterback here makes sense, and Fields looks like the better prospect than BYU’s Zach Wilson, even if it’s close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan4life90 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/17/2021 at 7:50 PM, Philc1 said: Top 5 QBs don’t normally go 4-12 They can if the rest of the team is garbo. Blaming Watson for their 4-12 with the season he had is laughable and ludicrous, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/17/2021 at 7:50 PM, Philc1 said: Top 5 QBs don’t normally go 4-12 What was Watson's record this year again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Absolutely shocked after the HC hires he’s not mocked to ATL everywhere until draftday. top 4 looking like a locked in Law Wilson (Jets or team that moves up for him) Sewell Fields I’ll still be rooting for fields but man that lil hitch in his motion would have bothered me forever. Hopefully he improves it while learning under Ryan in year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 On 1/25/2021 at 8:10 PM, joewilly12 said: 2. New York Jets: QB Justin Fields, Ohio State. The prospect of the Jets sticking with Sam Darnold and either picking Penei Sewell here or trading back for more draft picks shouldn’t be ruled out. Nor should the possibility that they use their treasure trove of assets to go and get Deshaun Watson. But for now, picking a quarterback here makes sense, and Fields looks like the better prospect than BYU’s Zach Wilson, even if it’s close. bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 bump Why?Sent from the Suicide Watch desk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, jetspenguin said: Why? Sent from the Suicide Watch desk. Why not? We have been discussing Justin Fields for awhile on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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