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It’s too bad Shell went to IJ that was supposedly beyond a typical ACL/MCL/PCL injury. It’s too bad, the Jets were “developing” only to see him on another team. The injury had to scare the Jets..


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11 hours ago, RoadFan said:

Offense:

Bridgewater playing well in Carolina.

Kelvin Beachum starting for Cardinals.

Brian Winters starting for Bills.

James Carpenter starting for Falcons.

Brandon Shell starting for Seahawks.

Osemele was starting for Chiefs.

Bell in Kansas City.

Robby Anderson.  Brutal.

 

Defense:

Leo Williams with the Giants.

McClendon to the Bucs.

Demario Davis is an All-Pro with the Saints.

Adams in Seattle.

 

Specialists:

Andre Roberts in Buffalo.

Jason Myers in Seattle.

 

These players can all succeed elsewhere.  This organization, ownership, coaching, medical staff... it all just sucks.  Pathetic and embarrassing....

Please feel free to add if I missed a few.

 

This list isn't THAT impressive and you don't mention the circumstances under which some of these guys left. 

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35 minutes ago, Jetmech said:

It’s too bad Shell went to IJ that was supposedly beyond a typical ACL/MCL/PCL injury. It’s too bad, the Jets were “developing” only to see him on another team. The injury had to scare the Jets..


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Shell still sucks. 

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4 hours ago, Philc1 said:

Beachum and Carpenter are outplaying Fant and Van Roten

 

Winters was utter trash here

Eh, I think when Fant is at RT where he is more comfortable he plays well. Him and Becton are the two guys I feel confident about going forward as our LT and RT. I also think McGovern will play better once we get more talent at OG around him, or conversely, draft a talented C and put him at G. O-line is a unit and (especially the guys on the inside) help each other a lot on every play. 

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11 hours ago, RoadFan said:

Offense:

Bridgewater playing well in Carolina.

Kelvin Beachum starting for Cardinals.

Brian Winters starting for Bills.

James Carpenter starting for Falcons.

Brandon Shell starting for Seahawks.

Osemele was starting for Chiefs.

Bell in Kansas City.

Robby Anderson.  Brutal.

 

Defense:

Leo Williams with the Giants.

McClendon to the Bucs.

Demario Davis is an All-Pro with the Saints.

Adams in Seattle.

 

Specialists:

Andre Roberts in Buffalo.

Jason Myers in Seattle.

 

These players can all succeed elsewhere.  This organization, ownership, coaching, medical staff... it all just sucks.  Pathetic and embarrassing....

Please feel free to add if I missed a few.

 

A list of average players doing average things for other teams. Aside from Robby, Davis and Adams this isn't a list of players I wish we had. And even Adams wasn't good enough to help the Seattle D and has been hurt for weeks. 

NFL teams are filled with castoffs from other teams. This isn't anything new. You could probably make a similar list for just about every other team. A good chunk of the players you listed have also played for other teams  before coming to the Jets. 

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19 minutes ago, PepPep said:

Eh, I think when Fant is at RT where he is more comfortable he plays well. Him and Becton are the two guys I feel confident about going forward as our LT and RT. I also think McGovern will play better once we get more talent at OG around him, or conversely, draft a talented C and put him at G. O-line is a unit and (especially the guys on the inside) help each other a lot on every play. 

Fant is only on a one year deal.  Jets can upgrade in the offseason 

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Shell still sucks. 

Fant sucks a little less. The overall context here is Fant signed for 30 m vs Shell 11 m. Again, if he doesn’t get injured he’s probably still on the Jets for maybe the same money.

But thx for the reply anyway...


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13 hours ago, BroadwayRay said:

Worthless post. You have no idea how each of those offensive linemen are playing other than they’re “starting.” Big deal. They started for the Jets, too. 

 

9 hours ago, Wonderboy said:

1-15

 

3 hours ago, TeddEY said:

This team would not be very good.

I think my point was lost a little because of how I worded the thread title.  Perhaps, "Ex-Jets not as bad as we thought"  would be more appropriate?

No, they arent very good.  But maybe the O-linemen above aren't the turnstiles we labeled them.  Just poorly coached...

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5 hours ago, Butterfield said:

The jets replaced them with supposedly better players, and now are 0-8.  Are any of those other players 0-8?

Yes, of course, foolish of me to realize that the performance of every individual player on a team is directly related to their team record. Your usual brilliant logic.

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8 hours ago, jgb said:

@Jetsfan80 has said it's not a question of Jets not paying, it's that they pay the wrong guys like Enunwa -- that one really hurts because had we offered that same money (4yrs/$36M) to Robby at the end of 2018 he'd be a Jet through 2022.

That inexcusably bad signing aside, I still believe this team has a penny wise/pound foolish approach -- it seems historically when a guy emerges we compare his new market rate to his old salary and think "wow that's expensive." This is the wrong approach -- the correct measure of value is what would it cost to replace that level of production. Too often we let guys go and then burn a premium draft pick to replace him with pretty much the same guy (Leo v. Q) or go into FA and get a guy for 75% of the cost who is <50% the player we lost (Perriman v. Robby).

 

The proper move with Leo was not to try to replace him at all, or to replace him with a low round/UDFA type player.  

Also, I still maintain Perriman is 75 % the player at 75 % the cost of Anderson.  Both he and Anderson have succumbed to poor QB play and coaching here.  I admit that in hindsight the best move would have been to bring Anderson back AND add Perriman (or someone  like Demarcus Robinson), and/or to draft a 2nd receiver.  Go full assault on a position of need.  Even though I like Vyncint Smith and we could have never expected to lose all 5 of our top WR's to injury, adding 1-2 more receivers than we did absolutely could not have hurt.  

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6 hours ago, Jetstream said:

If you're gonna make a list how can you leave Buster Skrine off this list...starting with the Bears.... don't we all want him back? Our pass interference numbers are a bit down...

The Jachai Polite chatter quieted down too, considering he's done absolutely nothing there in 7 games outside of his 1 sack and a handful of QB Hurries.

And if we indeed "missed" on Polite then Seattle did too.  They cut him about 3 weeks after they signed him.

When it comes to the Jets over the last decade, this franchise has been really good at drafting bad players who stayed bad.  That's been the far bigger problem than coaches who failed to make use of the players they were handed. 

When it comes to the Jets' problems, Mike Maccagnan was several orders of magnitude the bigger problem than Todd Bowles and Adam Gase.  And I do think both of those HC's suck.  

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