Should Jets turn to Michigan's Jim Harbaugh as answer at HC?

[carlito1171]

Yup. He's starting to rise to the top of my list.

Certain personalities can win in NY. He's one of them. He's the jolt this franchise needs. I understand his under achievements at Michigan but I think it's one of those situations where he's better suited to be an NFL coach as opposed to College. The work he did with Alex Smith and Kaepernick at the NFL level can't be overlooked. I don't put much stock into what happened at Michigan when it comes to how he would fare in a return to the pros. 

 

[playtowinthegame]

22 minutes ago, oatmeal said:

Jets love hiring others trash, what has this dude done at M that makes him worthy of being a nfl head coach again?

Jim Harbaugh turned around a struggling 49ers franchise, which had gone 45-82 during their previous 8 seasons. With Jim Harbaugh the 49ers went 44-19 in 4 seasons, 5-3 record in the playoffs, and one NFC Championship. 

								Playoffs
Coach	From	To	G	W	L	T	W-L%	G plyf	W plyf	L plyf	Chmp
Kyle Shanahan	2017	2020	56	27	29	0	.482	3	2	1	0
Chip Kelly	2016	2016	16	2	14	0	.125	0	0	0	0
Jim Tomsula	2010	2015	17	6	11	0	.353	0	0	0	0
Jim Harbaugh	2011	2014	64	44	19	1	.695	8	5	3	0
Mike Singletary+	2008	2010	40	18	22	0	.450	0	0	0	0
Mike Nolan	2005	2008	55	18	37	0	.327	0	0	0	0
Dennis Erickson	2003	2004	32	9	23	0	.281	0	0	0	0

 

 

Year	Conf	W	L	T	Pct	Coach(es)	Bowl
2014	Big Ten	5	7	0	.417	Brady Hoke (5-7)
2013	Big Ten	7	6	0	.538	Brady Hoke (7-6)	Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl-L
2012	Big Ten	8	5	0	.615	Brady Hoke (8-5)	Outback Bowl-L
2011	Big Ten	11	2	0	.846	Brady Hoke (11-2)	Sugar Bowl-W
2010	Big Ten	7	6	0	.538	Rich Rodriguez (7-6)	Gator Bowl-L
2009	Big Ten	5	7	0	.417	Rich Rodriguez (5-7)
2008	Big Ten	3	9	0	.250	Rich Rodriguez (3-9)

MICHIGAN was 46-42 (.523) during the Rodriguez and Hoke down years for the Michigan program.

After Jim Harbaugh joined Michigan they've gone 48-19 (.716).

Year	School	G	W	L	T	Pct	SRS	SOS	AP Pre	AP High	AP Post	Bowl	Notes
10 Yrs	Overall	117	77	40	0	.658	10.49	3.41				2-5
4 Yrs	Stanford	50	29	21	0	.580	7.89	4.70				1-1
6 Yrs	Michigan	67	48	19	0	.716	12.23	2.55				1-4
2007	Stanford	12	4	8	0	.333	-1.10	6.57
2008	Stanford	12	5	7	0	.417	-0.04	3.79
2009	Stanford	13	8	5	0	.615	10.88	3.42		14		Sun Bowl-L
2010	Stanford	13	12	1	0	.923	21.80	5.03		4	4	Orange Bowl-W
2015	Michigan	13	10	3	0	.769	16.34	4.57		12	12	Citrus Bowl-W
2016	Michigan	13	10	3	0	.769	17.56	4.79	7	2	10	Orange Bowl-L
2017	Michigan	13	8	5	0	.615	13.44	6.98	11	7		Outback Bowl-L
2018	Michigan	13	10	3	0	.769	16.47	5.47	14	4	14	Peach Bowl-L
2019	Michigan	13	9	4	0	.692	15.50	7.88	7	7	18	Citrus Bowl-L
2020	Michigan	2	1	1	0	.500	-5.93	-14.43	16	13

 

Let's not pretend Jim Harbaugh wouldn't be the best coach for the Jets since Bill Parcells. 

[freestater]

I'd be perfectly pleased with Jim Harbaugh. If we really do end up with #1 overall, combined with the rest of our rebuild ammunition, we could be a very attractive location. 

[sourceworx]

I loved him as a player, and I love him as a coach. He's at the top of my list.

[joewilly12]

Don't forget to vote and discuss. 

[BleedinGreenNC]

No

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[rangerous]

at this point, assuming gase is launched, the jets need a coach with some instant credibility.  there just aren't that many formerly successful coaches that can come in an turn this team to respectability.  look at the trouble mccarthy is having down in dallas (before losing dak).  and that team is loaded with talent.  but then there's the whole aspect of going with a coach out of the nfl ranks.  flores is doing a good job with the doltfins.  so are vrable, mcdermott, mcavay, shanahan jr.  how are the former college guys doing?  kingsbury is doing pretty well.  rhule is doing okay.  another aspect is how any new coach will be compatible with the players douglas is acquiring.  many of the vets will be rotated away on short term contracts but the current rookie and first and second year players will be the guys any new coach will need to evaluate and use.

[Pac]

I doubt Douglas wants to have to deal with Harbaugh on roster decisions.

We're probably headed for another boring hire which is fine as long as they report to Douglas.  This has to be his mess to fix.

[Jetsfan80]

12 hours ago, slimjasi said:

I think his personality works a lot better in the pros than in college

He's an NFL coach, IMO. 

He also did very well in his only NFL HC job. 

My only issue with Harbaugh is that I wouldn't trust him to be here long term. I get the impression that he's a guy who wears people out after awhile. 

 

His personality did him no favors in the pros, either, as he wore out his welcome in SF despite all his success.  Though I don't think he became unpopular with his players, however, but rather with ownership.

[Jetsfan80]

27 minutes ago, Pac said:

I doubt Douglas wants to have to deal with Harbaugh on roster decisions.

We're probably headed for another boring hire which is fine as long as they report to Douglas.  This has to be his mess to fix.

I've been agreeing with a lot of your posts lately, and it's weirding me out.

[Maxman]

8 hours ago, Philc1 said:

11 people love the jets sucking c0ck

This is bannable. Is that clear?

[CTM]

46 minutes ago, Pac said:

I doubt Douglas wants to have to deal with Harbaugh on roster decisions.

We're probably headed for another boring hire which is fine as long as they report to Douglas.  This has to be his mess to fix.

Agreed. So fire JD

[jgb]

It is feeling like the Jets need a Parcells-moment to get out of this garbage. A culture changer and leader. A pumped up coordinator could be that guy but Harbaugh is that guy. Harbaugh also gets your some instant street cred with FAs. Yes, yes build through the draft but the Jets are a bottom-3 destination for players to re-sign or sign here, when they have other options.

[UntouchableCrew]

I doubt he'd be interested but I'd be very interested, for sure.

[BettyBoop]

3 hours ago, playtowinthegame said:

Jim Harbaugh turned around a struggling 49ers franchise, which had gone 45-82 during their previous 8 seasons. With Jim Harbaugh the 49ers went 44-19 in 4 seasons, 5-3 record in the playoffs, and one NFC Championship. 

								Playoffs
Coach	From	To	G	W	L	T	W-L%	G plyf	W plyf	L plyf	Chmp
Kyle Shanahan	2017	2020	56	27	29	0	.482	3	2	1	0
Chip Kelly	2016	2016	16	2	14	0	.125	0	0	0	0
Jim Tomsula	2010	2015	17	6	11	0	.353	0	0	0	0
Jim Harbaugh	2011	2014	64	44	19	1	.695	8	5	3	0
Mike Singletary+	2008	2010	40	18	22	0	.450	0	0	0	0
Mike Nolan	2005	2008	55	18	37	0	.327	0	0	0	0
Dennis Erickson	2003	2004	32	9	23	0	.281	0	0	0	0

 

 

Year	Conf	W	L	T	Pct	Coach(es)	Bowl
2014	Big Ten	5	7	0	.417	Brady Hoke (5-7)
2013	Big Ten	7	6	0	.538	Brady Hoke (7-6)	Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl-L
2012	Big Ten	8	5	0	.615	Brady Hoke (8-5)	Outback Bowl-L
2011	Big Ten	11	2	0	.846	Brady Hoke (11-2)	Sugar Bowl-W
2010	Big Ten	7	6	0	.538	Rich Rodriguez (7-6)	Gator Bowl-L
2009	Big Ten	5	7	0	.417	Rich Rodriguez (5-7)
2008	Big Ten	3	9	0	.250	Rich Rodriguez (3-9)

MICHIGAN was 46-42 (.523) during the Rodriguez and Hoke down years for the Michigan program.

After Jim Harbaugh joined Michigan they've gone 48-19 (.716).

Year	School	G	W	L	T	Pct	SRS	SOS	AP Pre	AP High	AP Post	Bowl	Notes
10 Yrs	Overall	117	77	40	0	.658	10.49	3.41				2-5
4 Yrs	Stanford	50	29	21	0	.580	7.89	4.70				1-1
6 Yrs	Michigan	67	48	19	0	.716	12.23	2.55				1-4
2007	Stanford	12	4	8	0	.333	-1.10	6.57
2008	Stanford	12	5	7	0	.417	-0.04	3.79
2009	Stanford	13	8	5	0	.615	10.88	3.42		14		Sun Bowl-L
2010	Stanford	13	12	1	0	.923	21.80	5.03		4	4	Orange Bowl-W
2015	Michigan	13	10	3	0	.769	16.34	4.57		12	12	Citrus Bowl-W
2016	Michigan	13	10	3	0	.769	17.56	4.79	7	2	10	Orange Bowl-L
2017	Michigan	13	8	5	0	.615	13.44	6.98	11	7		Outback Bowl-L
2018	Michigan	13	10	3	0	.769	16.47	5.47	14	4	14	Peach Bowl-L
2019	Michigan	13	9	4	0	.692	15.50	7.88	7	7	18	Citrus Bowl-L
2020	Michigan	2	1	1	0	.500	-5.93	-14.43	16	13

 

Let's not pretend Jim Harbaugh wouldn't be the best coach for the Jets since Bill Parcells. 

He would be.  However, he has an NFL shelf life of four years.  I'm fine with that because it would be a solid four years which this team desperately needs.

 

[Pac]

41 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

I've been agreeing with a lot of your posts lately, and it's weirding me out.

You need to clean up your Q takes but there may be hope for you yet.

[oatmeal]

On 11/2/2020 at 8:42 AM, playtowinthegame said:

Jim Harbaugh turned around a struggling 49ers franchise, which had gone 45-82 during their previous 8 seasons. With Jim Harbaugh the 49ers went 44-19 in 4 seasons, 5-3 record in the playoffs, and one NFC Championship. 

								Playoffs
Coach	From	To	G	W	L	T	W-L%	G plyf	W plyf	L plyf	Chmp
Kyle Shanahan	2017	2020	56	27	29	0	.482	3	2	1	0
Chip Kelly	2016	2016	16	2	14	0	.125	0	0	0	0
Jim Tomsula	2010	2015	17	6	11	0	.353	0	0	0	0
Jim Harbaugh	2011	2014	64	44	19	1	.695	8	5	3	0
Mike Singletary+	2008	2010	40	18	22	0	.450	0	0	0	0
Mike Nolan	2005	2008	55	18	37	0	.327	0	0	0	0
Dennis Erickson	2003	2004	32	9	23	0	.281	0	0	0	0

 

 

Year	Conf	W	L	T	Pct	Coach(es)	Bowl
2014	Big Ten	5	7	0	.417	Brady Hoke (5-7)
2013	Big Ten	7	6	0	.538	Brady Hoke (7-6)	Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl-L
2012	Big Ten	8	5	0	.615	Brady Hoke (8-5)	Outback Bowl-L
2011	Big Ten	11	2	0	.846	Brady Hoke (11-2)	Sugar Bowl-W
2010	Big Ten	7	6	0	.538	Rich Rodriguez (7-6)	Gator Bowl-L
2009	Big Ten	5	7	0	.417	Rich Rodriguez (5-7)
2008	Big Ten	3	9	0	.250	Rich Rodriguez (3-9)

MICHIGAN was 46-42 (.523) during the Rodriguez and Hoke down years for the Michigan program.

After Jim Harbaugh joined Michigan they've gone 48-19 (.716).

Year	School	G	W	L	T	Pct	SRS	SOS	AP Pre	AP High	AP Post	Bowl	Notes
10 Yrs	Overall	117	77	40	0	.658	10.49	3.41				2-5
4 Yrs	Stanford	50	29	21	0	.580	7.89	4.70				1-1
6 Yrs	Michigan	67	48	19	0	.716	12.23	2.55				1-4
2007	Stanford	12	4	8	0	.333	-1.10	6.57
2008	Stanford	12	5	7	0	.417	-0.04	3.79
2009	Stanford	13	8	5	0	.615	10.88	3.42		14		Sun Bowl-L
2010	Stanford	13	12	1	0	.923	21.80	5.03		4	4	Orange Bowl-W
2015	Michigan	13	10	3	0	.769	16.34	4.57		12	12	Citrus Bowl-W
2016	Michigan	13	10	3	0	.769	17.56	4.79	7	2	10	Orange Bowl-L
2017	Michigan	13	8	5	0	.615	13.44	6.98	11	7		Outback Bowl-L
2018	Michigan	13	10	3	0	.769	16.47	5.47	14	4	14	Peach Bowl-L
2019	Michigan	13	9	4	0	.692	15.50	7.88	7	7	18	Citrus Bowl-L
2020	Michigan	2	1	1	0	.500	-5.93	-14.43	16	13

 

Let's not pretend Jim Harbaugh wouldn't be the best coach for the Jets since Bill Parcells. 

Wtf does any of that matter? He failed to develop Shea and Michigan hasn’t won a single NC under him. 
 

Bill Parcells? don’t make me laugh 

 

and his coaching style wears on grown men

 

Lol to the person who’s confused please read the comments on this video ?????

I’m not the only one who knows Jim is pure trash 

 

[playtowinthegame]

1 hour ago, oatmeal said:

Wtf does any of that matter? He failed to develop Shea and Michigan hasn’t won a single NC under him.

You asked me what he's done. I answered, and you didn't like the facts I gave you. You now are taking the position he's done "nothing" because he hasn't won a single national championship at Michigan. Give me a break. I guess you'll only approve interviewing coaches from the college ranks who won a national championship. That seems like a narrow and SIMPLE MINDED way of thinking.

 

1 hour ago, oatmeal said:

Bill Parcells? don’t make me laugh 

 Laugh all you want, but the fact is there isn't a viable candidate out there who would bring instant credibility to the Jets franchise like hiring Jim Harbaugh would. I'm curious, you're bashing others for wanting Jim Harbaugh, but who is the guy you want? He must have a national championship under his belt based on you thinking Jim Harbaugh is "trash" because he hasn't won a national championship at Michigan.

1 hour ago, oatmeal said:

I’m not the only one who knows Jim is pure trash 

 

Congratulations for finding someone on the internet who agrees with you. YoU ReaLLy ArE a MaSteR DeBaTeR.

[Philc1]

On 11/2/2020 at 2:51 PM, sourceworx said:

I loved him as a player, and I love him as a coach. He's at the top of my list.

Please God make it happen 

[Philc1]

1 hour ago, oatmeal said:

Wtf does any of that matter? He failed to develop Shea and Michigan hasn’t won a single NC under him. 
 

Bill Parcells? don’t make me laugh 

 

and his coaching style wears on grown men

 

Lol to the person who’s confused please read the comments on this video ?????

I’m not the only one who knows Jim is pure trash 

 

Harbaugh is in the same division as Ohio State.  The fact that Harbaugh hasn’t won a national championship there yet is not an indictment on him

[IndianaJet]

On 11/2/2020 at 2:38 AM, Philc1 said:

When Indiana beats Michigan this week the rumors are going to start flying about a Harbaugh return to the nfl

Fixed bitches

[IndianaJet]

3 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Harbaugh is in the same division as Ohio State.  The fact that Harbaugh hasn’t won a national championship there yet is not an indictment on him

That's ridiculous.  He's had ample opportunities to beat Ohio St. and get to the college football playoff but continues to fail miserably.

How many former Jets coaches are you allowing to use that excuse because the Pats have been so dominant?

 

[jeremy2020]

On 11/1/2020 at 9:14 PM, Ruby2 said:

 Brian Daboll

What is the obsession with coordinators who don't have success on the side of the ball they're supposed to be good at?

[playtowinthegame]

30 minutes ago, IndianaJet said:

That's ridiculous.  He's had ample opportunities to beat Ohio St. and get to the college football playoff but continues to fail miserably.

How many former Jets coaches are you allowing to use that excuse because the Pats have been so dominant?

 

Michigan was a program that had fallen before Harbaugh came there. You act like he took something that was good and made it worse.

[Philc1]

1 hour ago, IndianaJet said:

That's ridiculous.  He's had ample opportunities to beat Ohio St. and get to the college football playoff but continues to fail miserably.

How many former Jets coaches are you allowing to use that excuse because the Pats have been so dominant?

 

And that’s college football.  It’s a different world with a different skill set for coaches to use to win.  If college success translated to NFL success Nick Saban wouldn’t have washed out with the dolphins after one year.  Ditto for Steve Spurrier, Butch Davis etc

 

Fun Fact: only 1 Head Coach has ever won both a Super Bowl and College Football Championship

 

[Ruby2]

5 hours ago, jeremy2020 said:

What is the obsession with coordinators who don't have success on the side of the ball they're supposed to be good at?

?? This dude turned some jag from wyoming who completed 55% of his passes into a top 10 nfl qb.

Ill take a shot on that

[BornJetsFan1983]

On 11/2/2020 at 4:10 AM, mrcoops said:

Yes.  He was excellent as the 49ers coach, turning them from bottom-feeders to annual contenders.

The main arguments against him seem to be that he's abrasive, and probably wouldn't stick around for more than 5 years. 

Personally, I can live with an abrasive coach who brings success, even for a limited period, to a team that hasn't had any success for a decade.

Parcells didn't stick around long, but he totally turned around the team and raised expectations for the franchise.  Harbaugh could do something similar.

not to mention but the last time we were any good was with an abrassive guy known as REX....not sure we could get him but he woudl be the most qualified coach we have had since Parcels. its not even close. 

[BornJetsFan1983]

7 hours ago, playtowinthegame said:

You asked me what he's done. I answered, and you didn't like the facts I gave you. You now are taking the position he's done "nothing" because he hasn't won a single national championship at Michigan. Give me a break. I guess you'll only approve interviewing coaches from the college ranks who won a national championship. That seems like a narrow and SIMPLE MINDED way of thinking.

 

 Laugh all you want, but the fact is there isn't a viable candidate out there who would bring instant credibility to the Jets franchise like hiring Jim Harbaugh would. I'm curious, you're bashing others for wanting Jim Harbaugh, but who is the guy you want? He must have a national championship under his belt based on you thinking Jim Harbaugh is "trash" because he hasn't won a national championship at Michigan.

 

Congratulations for finding someone on the internet who agrees with you. YoU ReaLLy ArE a MaSteR DeBaTeR.

this was a great post. 

 

[BornJetsFan1983]

On 11/2/2020 at 8:08 AM, Jetsfan80 said:

 

His personality did him no favors in the pros, either, as he wore out his welcome in SF despite all his success.  Though I don't think he became unpopular with his players, however, but rather with ownership.

yeah lets not pretend ownership forced him out of SF, he did a great job with the crap players he was given, literally making up the system as he went.. he did a terrific job there. And just because he was no nonsense and has been given this aura of rubbing peopel the wrong way, dont buy it. You need someone like him to right the ship.

[pointman]

Harbaugh had the Niners looking scary good early on. If we can get him, bring him in. Whats our alternative? The baldy that got canned at the Falcons, Todd Bowel Movement, Big mouth in Carolina, the loser in Dallas. We only look at bums. So lets look at someone who is slightly less of a bum. 

[CTJetsFan]

I asked a close friend who has been a die-hard Michigan and Pats fan for 40 years if he would want Harbaugh to replace BB if he retired and the answer was "No".

Pretty telling to me.

I'd still want him as our coach.

[FlightBoyz]

 

[jgb]

On 11/2/2020 at 2:42 PM, carlito1171 said:

Yup. He's starting to rise to the top of my list.

Certain personalities can win in NY. He's one of them. He's the jolt this franchise needs. I understand his under achievements at Michigan but I think it's one of those situations where he's better suited to be an NFL coach as opposed to College. The work he did with Alex Smith and Kaepernick at the NFL level can't be overlooked. I don't put much stock into what happened at Michigan when it comes to how he would fare in a return to the pros. 

 

Yeah, I don't know enough about whether his system or tactics or whatever is a fit but this team is on the edge of a cliff culture wise and need a strong man to drag them back away from it.

[bealeb319]

Harbaugh would be a nightmare...why go from a guy who you know players hate to play for to a guy that you know players hate to play for?

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[Skeet Ulrich]

On 11/3/2020 at 10:24 AM, IndianaJet said:

That's ridiculous.  He's had ample opportunities to beat Ohio St. and get to the college football playoff but continues to fail miserably.

How many former Jets coaches are you allowing to use that excuse because the Pats have been so dominant?

 

Forget about tOSU, they're light years ahead of Michigan talent wise. Can someone explain why Michigan is 3-3 vs MSU in Harbaugh's tenure - INCLUDING 0-3 at the Big House?

This guy is NOT what you think he is. If he came to the Jets you'd have people calling for his head by year 2.