Jetsfan80 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 24 minutes ago, section314 said: Also depends on who you would be sitting for. Rodgers and Mahomes sat for Farve and Alex Smith. Sanchez and Sam played instead of Kellen Clemmons and McCown. Just a slight difference.? Sure. But the idea for any young QB is that any bridge QB will do. Somehow, insulating a rookie QB from the field for as long as possible will protect his delicate psyche and allow him to blossom properly. That's the idea, anyways. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Sure. But the idea for any young QB is that any bridge QB will do. Somehow, insulating a rookie QB from the field for as long as possible will protect his delicate psyche and allow him to blossom properly. That's the idea, anyways. Agree with you...that's nonsense. Rodgers, Mahomes and Eli could/did learn from Farve, Smith and Warner. That's an exception these days. Most kids drafted very high are going to teams that suck, and that usually means that's because their QB's suck. College coaches don't have a problem playing big recruits right away. Just use the old eye test. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, section314 said: Agree with you...that's nonsense. Rodgers, Mahomes and Eli could/did learn from Farve, Smith and Warner. That's an exception these days. Most kids drafted very high are going to teams that suck, and that usually means that's because their QB's suck. College coaches don't have a problem playing big recruits right away. Just use the old eye test. Yeah and teams almost always get #1 pick because their QB stinks. Rodgers and Mahomes were of course drafted much later. 1st overalls almost always start game 1, even in the "olden days." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 3:19 PM, kmnj said: It just seems folks gave up on sam way too early to me. Oh, that was the point of this thread? Very difficult to figure that out from the 1st post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Hey... Anyway... I've been posting on these boards for a while... Years, frankly. Over that time, we've consistently heard arguments about how we give up on a player too soon. And, that Jets fans, "run players out of town." However... Here's something that's never happened: Jets release an underperforming Quarterback (or frankly, other position players) who then goes on to have a very strong career elsewhere. Here's something that has happened: Jets pass on drafting a QB prospect because we need to "SEE WHAT WE HAVE" in Geno Hackenchezold. To review: QBs Jets have had that have gone on to success elsewhere: ... QBs Jets didn't draft because of stupidity/faith in the guy we had: Patrick Mahommes, Deshaun Watson, Teddy Bridgewater, Derrick Carr, Russell Wilson Yet, Jets fans consistently fear the former, and not the latter. Oh, and for position players, the entire list is probably Demario Davis, a guy that no one ran out of town, but the Jets made a financial decision on. In conclusion, stop worrying about getting rid of sh*tty players to the detriment of actually adding non-sh*tty ones. Because, only one of these things has happened, and it's not the one you're terrified of. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waka Flocka Flacco Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, TeddEY said: Hey... Anyway... I've been posting on these boards for a while... Years, frankly. 4-25-09 NEVER FORGET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Hey... Anyway... I've been posting on these boards for a while... Years, frankly. Over that time, we've consistently heard arguments about how we give up on a player too soon. And, that Jets fans, "run players out of town." However... Here's something that's never happened: Jets release an underperforming Quarterback (or frankly, other position players) who then goes on to have a very strong career elsewhere. Here's something that has happened: Jets pass on drafting a QB prospect because we need to "SEE WHAT WE HAVE" in Geno Hackenchezold. To review: QBs Jets have had that have gone on to success elsewhere: ... QBs Jets didn't draft because of stupidity/faith in the guy we had: Patrick Mahommes, Deshaun Watson, Teddy Bridgewater, Derrick Carr Yet, Jets fans consistently fear the former, and not the latter. Oh, and for position players, the entire list is probably Demario Davis, a guy that no one ran out of town, but the Jets made a financial decision on. In conclusion, stop worrying about getting rid of sh*tty players to the detriment of actually adding non-sh*tty ones. Because, only one of these things has happened, and it's not the one you're terrified of. Add Russell Wilson to that list too, because of Sanchez. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said: 4-25-09 NEVER FORGET As someone who doesn't watch much college, was very bullish on that day. The bottom fell out quickly. Dropped pix-6 week one against Texans, quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Add Russell Wilson to that list too, because of Sanchez. Done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, TeddEY said: Done. Also, while we're at it, its Derek Carr, not Derrick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Also, while we're at it, its Derek Carr, not Derrick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 3:00 PM, kmnj said: so lets assume we get the number one and draft trevor our next new "franchise qb" what is a reasonable amount of time to wait until he shows he is a legit number one franchise qb? now clearly we dont know who his coach will be or what the roster will look like so lots of this is pure speculation Folks say Joe has a 6 year plan and we need to be patient for a full rebuild. People wrote off sam by year 3 with garbage as a coach and garbage as a roster in a tank year. Are you willing to give Trevor a 4-6 year window(that is what it will take) or are you going to bail after 2-3 years like folks are doing with sam? My fear is we will ruin another qb or put him in a position to fail On 11/3/2020 at 3:00 PM, kmnj said: so lets assume we get the number one and draft trevor our next new "franchise qb" what is a reasonable amount of time to wait until he shows he is a legit number one franchise qb? now clearly we dont know who his coach will be or what the roster will look like so lots of this is pure speculation Folks say Joe has a 6 year plan and we need to be patient for a full rebuild. People wrote off sam by year 3 with garbage as a coach and garbage as a roster in a tank year. Are you willing to give Trevor a 4-6 year window(that is what it will take) or are you going to bail after 2-3 years like folks are doing with sam? My fear is we will ruin another qb or put him in a position to fail 8 games. If he's not the best Qb in the league by that point he never will be. We will know if we need to move on by game 9 of his rookie season. GO JETS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, TeddEY said: ❤️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fleming Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Add Russell Wilson to that list too, because of Sanchez. Dan Marino. Brett Favre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ian Fleming said: Dan Marino. Brett Favre Marino doesn't qualify for this particular discussion, because we didn't have a QB on the roster that caused us to pass on Marino. We passed on Marino for O'Brien from the same draft. That would be more akin to what the Bears did in passing on Mahomes to take Mitchell Trubisky. Same deal with Favre. We took Browning Nagle in the same draft. Both terrible decisions, of course, but they weren't guys we passed on because we decided to roll with the QB(s) on the roster instead, like we did with Russell Wilson (Sanchez) and Mahomes/Watson (Hackenberg). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 9:19 PM, kmnj said: It just seems folks gave up on sam way too early to me. Does it bother you that some called it to early or that they were proven right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waka Flocka Flacco Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 3 hours ago, TeddEY said: Dropped pix-6 That was a fun thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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