2021 New York Mets Thread

[32EBoozer]

14 hours ago, Lith said:

Last minute weirdness.  Isn't weirdness kind of typical for the Mets.

That would be a strong front office 

[Anthony Jet]

Noah to the angels??

[Scott Dierking]

46 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said:

Noah to the angels??

Looks like it. For a "paltry" $2.6m more than the QO. Odd, considering that Syndergaard was BEGGING the Mets to provide to extend the QO, and that he "couldn't imagine not playing for the Mets".

Extending the QO for Syndergaard was not a no brainer. This is a guy that has pitched 2 innings in the past 2 years and we are unsure if he can throw his slider. 

The Angels deal is a 1 year deal. Syndergaard MAYBE can pitch 120 innings next year. MAYBE he is doing the Mets a favor here. The Mets can re-sign Syndergaard after 1 year and let him have a reduced innings count with the Angels. 

Now, the new Mets GM really has to get on the job quickly. Strohman is almost a must now. The Mets don't even know what they will get from deGrom.  

BIG draft next year for the Mets. 2 first rounders. At least 2 second rounders and a probably a third second rounder coming for Conforto.

[Anthony Jet]

I heard something the other day along the lines of because the Mets didn’t sign rocker last year if they sign any FA with a QO attached to him they will forfeit a 1st rd pick. Is there any truth to that

[Anthony Jet]

22 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

Looks like it. For a "paltry" $2.6m more than the QO. Odd, considering that Syndergaard was BEGGING the Mets to provide to extend the QO, and that he "couldn't imagine not playing for the Mets".

Extending the QO for Syndergaard was not a no brainer. This is a guy that has pitched 2 innings in the past 2 years and we are unsure if he can throw his slider. 

The Angels deal is a 1 year deal. Syndergaard MAYBE can pitch 120 innings next year. MAYBE he is doing the Mets a favor here. The Mets can re-sign Syndergaard after 1 year and let him have a reduced innings count with the Angels. 

Now, the new Mets GM really has to get on the job quickly. Strohman is almost a must now. The Mets don't even know what they will get from deGrom.  

BIG draft next year for the Mets. 2 first rounders. At least 2 second rounders and a probably a third second rounder coming for Conforto.

If conforto signs elsewhere do they get another 2nd rounder?

[Scott Dierking]

50 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said:

If conforto signs elsewhere do they get another 2nd rounder?

Yes!

[Scott Dierking]

51 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said:

I heard something the other day along the lines of because the Mets didn’t sign rocker last year if they sign any FA with a QO attached to him they will forfeit a 1st rd pick. Is there any truth to that

Because the Mets did not come to agreement with Rocker, they get the same pick in next year (11th overall) in addition to their own pick (14th overall).

[faba]

On the plus side gives us another 18 million dollars to spend  21 million to a guy that has pitched 2 innings in two years nice career

[Anthony Jet]

1 hour ago, Scott Dierking said:

Because the Mets did not come to agreement with Rocker, they get the same pick in next year (11th overall) in addition to their own pick (14th overall).

But I heard if you sign a FA with a QO you give up your 2nd pick in the draft. Because Mets have 2 picks. It becomes a first rounder 

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

4 hours ago, Anthony Jet said:

Noah to the angels??

[Scott Dierking]

Just now, Anthony Jet said:

But I heard if you sign a FA with a QO you give up your 2nd pick in the draft. Because Mets have 2 picks. It becomes a first rounder 

Yes, IF the Mets sign a player with a QO attached, they need to forfeit a draft pick. 

I have heard that they do not want to do that. Who knows?

 

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

3 hours ago, Scott Dierking said:

Strohman is almost a must now.

[Scott Dierking]

2 minutes ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said:

In your own words, without the help of a meme, tell us why. And, what better options there are.

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

Just now, Scott Dierking said:

In your own words, without the help of a meme, tell us why. And, what better options there are.

Stroman is a thug , waiting to explode . Run while you can . Plenty of other options .

[Scott Dierking]

1 minute ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said:

Stroman is a thug , waiting to explode . Run while you can . Plenty of other options .

What makes him a "thug"? 

Last year he showed he could handle NY. he showed he can give innings. Not everyone can. I would LOVE to slot him in the 3 spot in the rotation.

Now, do some homework here, and tell me who is a possible get. And I am very unsure if Scherzer would come here.

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

4 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

What makes him a "thug"? 

Last year he showed he could handle NY. he showed he can give innings. Not everyone can. I would LOVE to slot him in the 3 spot in the rotation.

Now, do some homework here, and tell me who is a possible get. And I am very unsure if Scherzer would come here.

Verlander , Gausman , Kikuchi , Davies , Quintana , among others .

[Scott Dierking]

3 minutes ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said:

Verlander , Gausman , Kikuchi , Davies , Quintana , among others .

Verlander- He does not have much tread left on those tires. I want some guaranteed innings. I can't give him the 2 slot.

Gausman-I would be fine with, but I don't ses him leaving SF. That was too good of a situation for him.

Kikuchi??-How is he better than Stroman?

Davies- He is Stroman light, with more home run balls. If he does not have his control, he gets shelled.

Qunitana??? Are you being serious here?

I would hate to see your "among others".

You never answered why Stroman is a "thug". Or should I be afraid to ask?

[Scott Dierking]

BTW, I would take a hard look at Jon Gray too.

deGrom, Stroman, Gray, Carrasco, Walker, Megill,  Peterson, Yamamoto, 

[Anthony Jet]

1 hour ago, Scott Dierking said:

Yes, IF the Mets sign a player with a QO attached, they need to forfeit a draft pick. 

I have heard that they do not want to do that. Who knows?

 

Basically gotta stay away from any one with QO. Losing a 1st round pick is big 

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

1 hour ago, Scott Dierking said:

BTW, I would take a hard look at Jon Gray too.

deGrom, Stroman, Gray, Carrasco, Walker, Megill,  Peterson, Yamamoto, 

Stroman is a me,me,me player . We already have one of those ( Lindor ) . Run while you can .

[Scott Dierking]

Just now, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said:

Stroman is a me,me,me player . We already have one of those ( Lindor ) . Run while you can .

So, he wants to compile wins? Sign me up. He went out every 5th day. No other Met pitcher did that thus year.

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

1 minute ago, Scott Dierking said:

So, he wants to compile wins? Sign me up. He went out every 5th day. No other Met pitcher did that thus year.

You can have him .

[section314]

I would look at Robbie Ray and bring Strohman back. He didn’t miss a start, if I remember correctly. Still think the Trevor Bauer situation bears watching.

[chirorob]

On 11/16/2021 at 10:19 AM, Scott Dierking said:

Looks like it. For a "paltry" $2.6m more than the QO. Odd, considering that Syndergaard was BEGGING the Mets to provide to extend the QO, and that he "couldn't imagine not playing for the Mets".

Extending the QO for Syndergaard was not a no brainer. This is a guy that has pitched 2 innings in the past 2 years and we are unsure if he can throw his slider. 

The Angels deal is a 1 year deal. Syndergaard MAYBE can pitch 120 innings next year. MAYBE he is doing the Mets a favor here. The Mets can re-sign Syndergaard after 1 year and let him have a reduced innings count with the Angels. 

Now, the new Mets GM really has to get on the job quickly. Strohman is almost a must now. The Mets don't even know what they will get from deGrom.  

BIG draft next year for the Mets. 2 first rounders. At least 2 second rounders and a probably a third second rounder coming for Conforto.

That is a terrible deal for the Angels.

21 million for a guy who hasn't thrown in 2 years, and you get a draft pick for him.

Also, as you said, what is his innings max?  120?  130? 

[section314]

Read this morning that 3rd base prospect Brett Baty is ripping it up in the Arizona fall league. Team thinks he is getting close.? Supposedly were playing him some in OF at Binghamton to see how he did.

[section314]

Mets supposedly have made an offer to Steven Matz.

[Jetsfan80]

6 hours ago, section314 said:

Mets supposedly have made an offer to Steven Matz.

[section314]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Desperate times call for desperate measures?

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

On 11/17/2021 at 1:10 PM, chirorob said:

That is a terrible deal for the Angels.

21 million for a guy who hasn't thrown in 2 years, and you get a draft pick for him.

Also, as you said, what is his innings max?  120?  130? 

Those creeps also stole Loup . DAMN ANGELS .

[section314]

Just now, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said:

Those creeps also stole Loup . DAMN ANGELS .

Was absolutely great last year. Sucks to lose him.

[Rangers9]

A big mistake was not resigning Aaron Loup. He is worth 17 million for 2 years. He was the Mets best relief pitcher by a mile last year when most of the other guys were unreliable and blew games. The bullpen should be number one in terms of needs and the Mets have lost a lot of winnable games because of it. In 2019 we might have made the playoffs if not for Edwin Diaz who I’d love to see gone. 

[Rangers9]

I’m not unhappy that Matz didn’t sign with us I’m kind of glad. He was inconsistent with the Mets I was happy when he left. He had a good year last year with the Jays he probably should have re-signed with them. As for the owner getting involved and complaining about Matz agent we’re maybe seeing why we can’t sign front office talent and so far are losing players. Players etc don’t want to sign on a team with unstable ownership. Sure Cohen has a lot of money but even before he bought the team there were unflattering remarks made about him and his activities on Wall Street. 

[section314]

On 11/25/2021 at 12:31 AM, Rangers9 said:

I’m not unhappy that Matz didn’t sign with us I’m kind of glad. He was inconsistent with the Mets I was happy when he left. He had a good year last year with the Jays he probably should have re-signed with them. As for the owner getting involved and complaining about Matz agent we’re maybe seeing why we can’t sign front office talent and so far are losing players. Players etc don’t want to sign on a team with unstable ownership. Sure Cohen has a lot of money but even before he bought the team there were unflattering remarks made about him and his activities on Wall Street. 

I think the bigger issue right now is pretty basic....we don't have a manager. Nobody in their right mind would sign a deal without knowing who he would be playing for.

[Rangers9]

1 hour ago, section314 said:

I think the bigger issue right now is pretty basic....we don't have a manager. Nobody in their right mind would sign a deal without knowing who he would be playing for.

Well the Mets were unable to get the top echelon GM they wanted like Epstein etc. Not that the guy the hired isn't qualified, he is. They waited until his hiring to name a manager which is what they should have done. Like to see him get an experienced mgr. like Sciocia, Bochy if they still want to manage.  

[Jetsfan80]

Hell yes.