Bronx Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I wasn't, because I don't believe in quitting and losing. Also, a #1 pick doesn't guarantee you anything (see Baker Mayfield's career and other busts). If you were happy losing last night, you should change your status from loyal to disgraceful. 8 26 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Irish Jet Posted November 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2020 Here come the purity tests. Yes. I’m delighted. Put yourself in a position to get the franchise QB. Whether Lawrence or even Fields are to bust I’d rather swing and miss than to have no shot. We’ve cost ourselves a ton of elite talent over the years with meaningless wins. Nice selective examples too. Lawrence is a better prospect than Mayfield ever was. 15 2 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: Here come the purity tests. Yes. I’m delighted. Put yourself in a position to get the franchise QB. Whether Lawrence or even Fields are to bust I’d rather swing and miss than to have no shot. We’ve cost ourselves a ton of elite talent over the years with meaningless wins. Nice selective examples too. Lawrence is a better prospect than Mayfield ever was. Let's see if you can figure this one out: Paul Hornung (1957) – Won Super Bowl I Bubba Smith (1967) – Won Super Bowl V Terry Bradshaw (1970) – Won Super Bowl IX, X, XIII, XIV Jim Plunkett (1971) – Won Super Bowl XV, XVIII John Matuszak (1973) – Won Super Bowl XI, XV Ed “Too Tall” Jones (1974) – Won Super Bowl XII George Rogers (1981) – Won Super Bowl XXII John Elway (1983) – Won Super Bowl XXXII, XXXIII Troy Aikman (1989) – Won Super Bowl XXVII, XXVIII, XXX Russell Maryland (1991) – Won Super Bowl XXVII, XXVIII, XXX Drew Bledsoe (1993) – Won Super Bowl XXXVI Keyshawn Johnson (1996) – Won Super Bowl XXXVII Orlando Pace (1997) – Won Super Bowl XXXIV Peyton Manning (1998) – Won Super Bowl XLI, 50 David Carr (2002) – Won Super Bowl XLVI Eli Manning (2004) – Won Super Bowl XLII, XLVI Eric Fisher (2013) – Won Super Bowl LIV 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Patriot Killa Posted November 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: Here come the purity tests. Yes. I’m delighted. Put yourself in a position to get the franchise QB. Whether Lawrence or even Fields are to bust I’d rather swing and miss than to have no shot. We’ve cost ourselves a ton of elite talent over the years with meaningless wins. Nice selective examples too. Lawrence is a better prospect than Mayfield ever was. This. Darnold isn’t the answer here. He may be the answer for someone else down the road but we desperately needed to look respectable on national television and still lose and I think we nailed that. 15 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Irish Jet Posted November 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bronx said: Let's see if you can figure this one out: Paul Hornung (1957) – Won Super Bowl I Bubba Smith (1967) – Won Super Bowl V Terry Bradshaw (1970) – Won Super Bowl IX, X, XIII, XIV Jim Plunkett (1971) – Won Super Bowl XV, XVIII John Matuszak (1973) – Won Super Bowl XI, XV Ed “Too Tall” Jones (1974) – Won Super Bowl XII George Rogers (1981) – Won Super Bowl XXII John Elway (1983) – Won Super Bowl XXXII, XXXIII Troy Aikman (1989) – Won Super Bowl XXVII, XXVIII, XXX Russell Maryland (1991) – Won Super Bowl XXVII, XXVIII, XXX Drew Bledsoe (1993) – Won Super Bowl XXXVI Keyshawn Johnson (1996) – Won Super Bowl XXXVII Orlando Pace (1997) – Won Super Bowl XXXIV Peyton Manning (1998) – Won Super Bowl XLI, 50 David Carr (2002) – Won Super Bowl XLVI Eli Manning (2004) – Won Super Bowl XLII, XLVI Eric Fisher (2013) – Won Super Bowl LIV Good times. Totally worth those big wins + Pryor. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Someone slept during intro to statistics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisaynon Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 HELL YEA! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Untouchable Posted November 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2020 Yes As a matter of fact, I want to see 7 more losses exactly like this. Competitive, close games that come down to the wire...but the Jets lose in the end. At least last night was fun to watch, unlike the previous 8 weeks. 15 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pdxgreen Posted November 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2020 My self respect as a Jets fan died a long time ago. And I have Mehta and Cimini to remind me of how much sadistic pleasure the world gets from my tortured existence. I am well conditioned to suffer until there is a light at the end of the tunnel. You can call me a disgrace all you want. I'll keep my eyes on the prize. 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetsYanks13 Posted November 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2020 Yes:1. The POS HC strung together a bunch of meaningless wins last season against garbage teams, he kept his job. For the love of God, do not want a repeat of last season in that regard where there is a sense of false hope and they retain the moron.2. The team is going nowhere, the difference between picking 10th rather than 1st, 2nd in this specific draft is a world of a difference. Winning 2-3 meaningless games in the grand scheme of things does nothing for this team, please refer it to previous Jets seasons with meaningless wins.3. The young guys held there own and played fairly well, let’s face it Flacco and Gore winning a game for the Jets is useless. Clearly, there a bit past there prime and have no future and should not even be playing in my opinion. At this point in the season, it’s about evaluating younger talent and see what you have moving forward.4. The game (for once this season) was exciting, a win or loss won’t be remembered in the grand scheme of things, but a win last night for the future of the organization would have been a killer. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Sawyer 37 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 The Jets could own the best QB in the AFC East for years to come if they have the chance to take Lawrence. Maybe a QB as good as Mahomes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Biggs Posted November 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2020 There was a glimpse that the new talent Douglas brought in can be part of the turnaround. It's pretty clear that a veteran QB in decline isn't the answer. We're in position to get a haul in draft picks and FA going forward. We have a small but more talented core on both sides of the ball than we had previously seen this season. The Pats are in rebuild and are very unlikely to ever get back to where they were. For a couple of hours the Jets showed that they might have a future. In the last quarter they showed that they aren't good enough to prevent themselves from getting a better future. It was a quality loss. The Jets players didn't quit. The deep int one play after a long drive was a disaster for the D. Flacco doubled down on it. He's a veteran QB and he got very impatient in the 4th quarter. That's not on the team. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetster Posted November 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2020 Here's my take on last night. I went into this game thinking this will be the game that screws up our draft position & for 3 quarters it looked like I was right. JDs rookies looked good, we know Bectons a stud (I pray he's not injury prone), it was a fun game to watch, but in the end when the Patriots were coming back I knew that little bit of guilt I was feeling about actually wanting a loss did not matter one bit because nothing that I personally wanted was going to change the outcome. It was what it was, another example of just how bad of a coach Adam Gase is. So, we got to see some rookies perform & play hard, and Gase was exposed again for what he is. Because the only way you can lose that game is if your in on the tank or your a terrible head coach. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torus34 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 The Patriots 2020/1 are not the Patriots of yesteryear. The NJ Jets proved that last night. That said, the Jets also demonstrated that with a few good breaks and a somewhat better team they have a shot at respectability as a so-so team rather than what they have been until now: the League's doormat. Play-calling showed a definite improvement. Whether the play-calling was essentially the same but matched better with Mr. Joseph Flacco's particular skill toolkit is a good topic for discussion. With a 'lost' season now in the books, the Jets have the freedom to try out a number of changes. It will be interesting to see if this option is explored. Go, Jets! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MichaelScott Posted November 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2020 Absolutely. Jets looking capable all game, Mims making a couple plays, Pats looking like a shell of themselves with talent that appears to rival the pitiful Jets AND the Jets managing to lose and preserve their perfect season at the time time was the absolute PERFECT outcome. Anyone wishing we had beat up on a pathetic Bradyless Pats, like that will somehow start to make up for the past decade is delusional and shortsighted to say the least. 8 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scott Dierking Posted November 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2020 Here, let me tell you fans how you should think and feel. Because, this is how I think and feel. You are all terrible fans. 2 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Bronx said: I wasn't, because I don't believe in quitting and losing. Also, a #1 pick doesn't guarantee you anything (see Baker Mayfield's career and other busts). If you were happy losing last night, you should change your status from loyal to disgraceful. The thing is if it was Sam orchestrating this I would’ve been somewhat okay with it. I can’t genuinely be happy that Flacco Gore and Perriman who won’t be here will cost us a shot at a generational prospect. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, MichaelScott said: Absolutely. Jets looking capable all game, Mims making a couple plays, Pats looking like a shell of themselves with talent that appears to rival the pitiful Jets AND the Jets managing to lose and preserve their perfect season at the time time was the absolute PERFECT outcome. Anyone wishing we had beat up on a pathetic Bradyless Pats, like that will somehow start to make up for the past decade is delusional and shortsighted to say the least. @SAR I What do you think of the play calling since Gase gave it up? In all seriousness, not being argumentative - As Gase's last standing supporter (still cant tell if you're trolling or genuinely like the man?) Do you think the O has looked any better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Bronx said: I wasn't, because I don't believe in quitting and losing. Also, a #1 pick doesn't guarantee you anything (see Baker Mayfield's career and other busts). If you were happy losing last night, you should change your status from loyal to disgraceful. Have you ever folded a hand in poker? 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM28 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Untouchable said: Yes As a matter of fact, I want to see 7 more losses exactly like this. Competitive, close games that come down to the wire...but the Jets lose in the end. At least last night was fun to watch, unlike the previous 8 weeks. Exactly this. Had a great time watching but in the end got to keep the #1 spot in the draft ? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Bronx said: I wasn't, because I don't believe in quitting and losing. Also, a #1 pick doesn't guarantee you anything (see Baker Mayfield's career and other busts). If you were happy losing last night, you should change your status from loyal to disgraceful. If it makes you feel better, I locked the wife and kids in the closet and put a gun in my mouth for a few hours and ranted like a maniac. Happy? A Jets win after 8 consecutive losses would make you happy last night? This is about dumpster diving to see if we can come up with a half eaten sandwich that's still partially wrapped in wax paper. If winning last night made you happy you're a fake fan. It's about more than 1 game if you're a fanatic Jets fan. It's about hanging on the side of a cliff in 40 below by a fingernail in the middle of nowhere and hoping the noise in the woods above you is help on the way and not a pack of hungry wolves waiting to pick on your dead broken body. Nobody is happy. It's about rationalizing sticking with it. The meteor that's heading right at your front door that's going to kill everything within a thousand miles is going too miss by 1001 miles. Happy? Harumph. Here's a question, if you're submerged in 10 feet of water and can't breath will getting to 8 feet make you happy? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Hell yes I’m happy. The Jet’s played up to their personnel, their coaches, their history. A perfect outcome for the franchise. You have to hit bottom before you start climbing. Gase + the Johnson brothers is getting us there. And Bronx, my loyalty is earned. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Sawyer 37 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 30 minutes ago, MichaelScott said: Absolutely. Jets looking capable all game, Mims making a couple plays, Pats looking like a shell of themselves with talent that appears to rival the pitiful Jets AND the Jets managing to lose and preserve their perfect season at the time time was the absolute PERFECT outcome. Anyone wishing we had beat up on a pathetic Bradyless Pats, like that will somehow start to make up for the past decade is delusional and shortsighted to say the least. I thought that NE was trying to tank too, but they were actually playing as best as they could. Cam still has only 2 passing TDs after 7 games. That must be an NFL record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted November 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2020 Meaningless win vs. the worst Patriots team in 35 years or a real franchise QB? hmmmmmm tough decision 8 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Flacco in this game had as many TDs as Darnold has had all year. We need a new QB. Give Darnold a shot to be good somewhere else... it’s not going to happen here. Perriman looks like a different player with Flacco. Look at Robby now. Is that Gase or Darnold? After yesterday’s game, I’m not sure it’s all on Gase. Darnold needs to get better attacking downfield. Not defending Gase. He should be gone already. We need a QB. Picking number 1, will allow JD to select his preferred QB whoever that may be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gastineau Lives Posted November 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Bronx said: I wasn't, because I don't believe in quitting and losing. Also, a #1 pick doesn't guarantee you anything (see Baker Mayfield's career and other busts). If you were happy losing last night, you should change your status from loyal to disgraceful. This loss was the most ecstasy inducing Jet game since Fitzpatrick to Marshall against the Pats. So much fun. You're not a real fan, I'm sorry to break that news to you. Anyone that roots for the Jets to miss out on one of the best QB prospects in history might as well be a Pats, Bills, Dolphin fan. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Happy is a relative term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Philc1 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 42 minutes ago, JiF said: Meaningless win vs. the worst Patriots team in 35 years or a real franchise QB? hmmmmmm tough decision Is there a way the jets can finish 0-17? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted November 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Is there a way the jets can finish 0-17? Yeah, if Trevor Lawrence dodges the Jets, that'll be the 17th loss of the season. 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Irish Jet said: Here come the purity tests. Yes. I’m delighted. Put yourself in a position to get the franchise QB. Whether Lawrence or even Fields are to bust I’d rather swing and miss than to have no shot. We’ve cost ourselves a ton of elite talent over the years with meaningless wins. Nice selective examples too. Lawrence is a better prospect than Mayfield ever was. Yes we have also cost ourselves elite talent chasing QB’s in the draft. We have one yet nobody realizes because he was never given a chance the last 2 years, no roster in football is as close to bad as the Jets team that they fielded the first 8 games, last night was the most talent the Jets fielded on offense by far this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Nope. Losing begets losing. And we're a decade long embarrassment with nothing to show for it, despite how often these same Fans have rooted for losses because the Draft... We're hearing all the same B.S. we heard before we got Sam Darnold. It's almost like Jets Fans get collective amnesia every year about these things. T.L. is not a saviour. We'll suck with him just like we suck now, without a wholesale change at every level of this franchise and a massive improvement in overall team talent. One draft pick doesn't get you any of that, it just gets another four years of the same folks now rooting for losses yelling at anyone who doubts anything about T.L. for being "bad fans", just like they did for Darnold till the realized the truth. Same old, Same Old, nothing ever changes here. Wake me when one of these "lose for the draft" years actually works out for US. So far, nada, and we've been here often. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Wake me when one of these "lose for the draft" years actually works out for US. So far, nada, and we've been here often. Yup, I can recall all those late season wins that cost us several draft spots, and how they propelled us into the next year. Momentum from one year to the next in the NFL, where at least 25% of a roster is overturned is a real thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Yes we have also cost ourselves elite talent chasing QB’s in the draft. We have one yet nobody realizes because he was never given a chance the last 2 years, no roster in football is as close to bad as the Jets team that they fielded the first 8 games, last night was the most talent the Jets fielded on offense by far this season. Elite QBs do not exist only on paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Scott Dierking said: Yup, I can recall all those late season wins that cost us several draft spots, and how they propelled us into the next year. Momentum from one year to the next in the NFL, where at least 25% of a roster is overturned is a real thing. But let's keep rolling over cap space "for the future." For Jets fans, the future is always a season away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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