Are you happy with this loss?

[Jets723]

I’m never happy with any loss but at least the game was competitive, kids did well, and we are still in the drivers seat for TL

[hawk]

4 hours ago, Bronx said:

I wasn't, because I don't believe in quitting and losing. Also, a #1 pick doesn't guarantee you anything (see Baker Mayfield's career and other busts).

If you were happy losing last night, you should change your status from loyal to disgraceful.

 

 

 

Fortunately,  I dont have to label myself as any type of fan, other than to myself.  Especially, to some blow hard who think his way is the only way.

The Jets need a complete overhaul, and that starts from head coach to probably the towel boy.  Winning a game at 0 and 8 means nothing.

What was important, we saw who still is playing with heart.  There was no quit on most that I saw.  

The game was enjoyable, which is the purpose of the game anyway.  

Again, Fortunately,  I dont have to justify my "status" to anyone.  Especially OP.

 

[CTJetsFan]

30 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

I'm never happy with a loss but I'm not sad either.  

This sums it up for me.

While it pains me to see the Pats win and BB smile, I'd much rather see that organization celebrate now after an insignificant win (to us) in November than seeing them celebrate in April during the draft after they've selected a new franchise QB that could haunt us for the next decade +

[ToonforPrez]

Looking at the bigger picture I'm happy with the loss absolutely. I understand what we require and need as a franchise and what is at stake. I feel if we do not get TL we will be set back quite a few years because Sam as much as it pains me is not the answer.   

[varjet]

We all knew this would be a tough season, and a likely step down from 7 wins was expected.   If the Jets were developing around Darnold this season, I would have never rooted for losses even though a loss was more likely than a win.  This season was supposed to be a building block for the future.  3,4,5 wins with Darnold developing was fine.  We did not need a top 5 draft pick necessarily. 

But Gase and this team have been so bad, Darnold so behind and Trevor Lawrence and even Justin Fields so good, that for someone who would like to see the Jets compete in the playoffs in the next 3-5 years, winning any game this season seems counterproductive.

Once we have a QB and a coach, I will root for them to win every game, regardless of likelihood of victory.  They would be building, and moving forward.  But a win in 2020 does this team no good.  

[Ohhthepain]

Thrilled with the loss. Best game of the season. On another note Joe Douglas needs to have a sit down with all the 1 year stop gaps on the team like Gore, Flacco, and Perrimam. He needs to let them know their performance was unacceptable and they, in no way, can ruin this teams future by performing like that again

[Coffee Is Great]

Very happy with it. Primo-level tank loss. Those are the ones the Jets usually win and shoot themselves in the foot.

We're more than halfway to securing the #1 pick. The Week 17 game in New England is the only game that concerns me; if JAX picks up one more win (which I think they will) we are golden. 1-15 is the best we'll do and I think it's a coin flip on us going 0-16. 

[Greenseed4]

4 hours ago, Untouchable said:

Yes

As a matter of fact, I want to see 7 more losses exactly like this.

Competitive, close games that come down to the wire...but the Jets lose in the end.

At least last night was fun to watch, unlike the previous 8 weeks.

Gotta believe TL is watching Jets/Jaguars games (esp national broadcasts).
Close losses are going to be more appealing than blowouts. 

[chirorob]

4 hours ago, Bronx said:

Let's see if you can figure this one out:

• Paul Hornung (1957) – Won Super Bowl I
• Bubba Smith (1967) – Won Super Bowl V
• Terry Bradshaw (1970) – Won Super Bowl IX, X, XIII, XIV
• Jim Plunkett (1971) – Won Super Bowl XV, XVIII
• John Matuszak (1973) – Won Super Bowl XI, XV
• Ed “Too Tall” Jones (1974) – Won Super Bowl XII
• George Rogers (1981) – Won Super Bowl XXII
• John Elway (1983) – Won Super Bowl XXXII, XXXIII
• Troy Aikman (1989) – Won Super Bowl XXVII, XXVIII, XXX
• Russell Maryland (1991) – Won Super Bowl XXVII, XXVIII, XXX
• Drew Bledsoe (1993) – Won Super Bowl XXXVI
• Keyshawn Johnson (1996) – Won Super Bowl XXXVII
• Orlando Pace (1997) – Won Super Bowl XXXIV
• Peyton Manning (1998) – Won Super Bowl XLI, 50
• David Carr (2002) – Won Super Bowl XLVI
• Eli Manning (2004) – Won Super Bowl XLII, XLVI
• Eric Fisher (2013) – Won Super Bowl LIV

 

Thats a good list.   Of course 2 of your QBs were backups, and some of your other players were more roles like players, or playing on teams different from where they were drafted.

[carlito1171]

this is how happy I am about this loss: 
 

 

 

[Lupz27]

54 minutes ago, jgb said:

Unproven > proven suck. 

And again, rookie contract is valuable.

So valuable the Jets could sign 2 30 million per QB’s and still be under the cap.  Such a joke how they just completely disregarded Sam’s development 

[munchmemory]

1 minute ago, Lupz27 said:

So valuable the Jets could sign 2 30 million per QB’s and still be under the cap.  Such a joke how they just completely disregarded Sam’s development 

Or, Darnold is not that good or a franchise QB?

[Rangers9]

Rooting for the Jets all the way and as usual when we lose a game esp blow one like that esp to them destroyed for about a week. I can't get over it, unhappy miserable...I don't care about Lawrence. 

[Jetsfan80]

All you f**kfaces who can't handle a lost season are a big reason this team never tanks properly and ends up with pick # 6.  The owners think the only way to keep the cash flow coming is to shoot for 6-10 every season. 

And some of you f**kers celebrate when the team wins meaningless games late in the season, because you actually think it carries over to the next season.  It never, ever does.

Stop telling people how to be entertained or how to fan.  You're not better than anyone else, and your preference for meaningless wins is simply wrong when it comes to what's best for the franchise in the long run.  Leave the damn board until January if you're so angry about fans rooting for losses.  It's not stopping for the next 7 games.

[Jet Life]

Yes. Folk hero does it again!!

[joewilly12]

4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

All you f**kfaces who can't handle a lost season are a big reason this team never tanks properly and ends up with pick # 6.  The owners think the only way to keep the cash flow coming is to shoot for 6-10 every season. 

And some of you f**kers celebrate when the team wins meaningless games late in the season, because you actually think it carries over to the next season.  It never, ever does.

Stop telling people how to be entertained or how to fan.  You're not better than anyone else, and your preference for meaningless wins is simply wrong when it comes to what's best for the franchise in the long run.  Leave the damn board until January if you're so angry about fans rooting for losses.  It's not stopping for the next 7 games.

This is a little harsh to say the least. 

We all want what's best for the NY Jets, some just think it in different ways. 

Been a fan my entire life and never ever would I imagine wanting the NY Jets to lose but what we've been doing for years and years winning meaningless games hasn't done us a bit of good. 

Maybe getting the #1 pick and cant miss real QB changes what hasn't changed around here in 51 years. 

I really hope so. 

[JustInFudge]

42 minutes ago, Warfish said:

I don't want the team I love to be in the history books as one of the worst teams to ever play professional football.

If that is wrong, so be it JiF old friend.  If it's short-sighted, so be it.  If I'm wrong because I'm not all-in on the Lord and Savior Trevor Lawrence being a fix-all for this franchise, so be it.

Don't know how else to say it, and it probably wouldn't matter anyway.  Like a drowning man, most of you folks have bought into T.L. and the #1 pick as a life preserver in an ocean of sh*t.  Since it appears we're doomed to 0-16 now regardless, I hope you all are right.  I hope we're not back here having this same conversation in a few years the way we are now with Darnold, the last Savior in many minds here.

But, we already are in that conversation.  The Jets in general are the laughing stock but specifically the Kotite years are routinely remembered as some of the worst teams to ever play and I think it's too late to worry about this particular piece because like it's just reality.  While last night looked a little better vs. a very bad team, up to that point, this was easily the worst NFL Football team I've ever seen.   Just not sure why that would concern you at this point.  And either way, who cares, we're Jets fans.  lol

For the rest, I'm actually bought into Fields but that's besides the point...the reality is, you are right.  Whether it's Fields or Lawrence, they alone, will not save the Jets.  The Jets need a ton but putting yourself in position to have the decision to take TL or Fields or trade out is just 10000x more valuable then winning last night.  It's just fact.   You saw momentum means nothing 6-2 finish to 0-8 start and this team is going to be totally different next year.

Lets put it this way.  Hypothetically, you're the GM of the NY Jets.  You decided, you're not going to take TL or Fields, what would you rather have;

A win last night with Joe Flacco on a team that is going to be completely turned over (including probably the coaching staff)?

or 

The #1 overall that you trade with the Colts, get a haul and now have hypothetically 12 picks in the first 2 rounds for the next 2 years?

You know I know you know

 

[Gastineau Lives]

Flacco, Perriman, Gore are not Jets. 

[joewilly12]

1 minute ago, JiF said:

You trade with the Colts, get a haul and now have hypothetically 12 picks in the first 2 rounds for the next 2 years?

If the NY Jets get the #1 pick going 0-16 you don't trade it. 

[Sperm Edwards]

3 hours ago, Scott Dierking said:

Here, let me tell you fans how you should think and feel. Because, this is how I think and feel. 

You are all terrible fans.

Also any loss = the team quitting

#facts

[NYJ37/12]

I hate the fact that we are hoping for losses to better the team in the long run, but to answer your question, YES!!

[kevinc855]

i dont root against my team and unlike many here dont care if we pick 4 or 1.....its almost a lock at this point we pick top 5. Some feel trevor lawrence will change this team and franchise. I dont. But we will see with time what happens. Should Trevor actually agree to come here I will certainly be rooting for his sucess....why, because he will be a Jet!

[JustInFudge]

2 minutes ago, JiF said:

Hypothetically, you're the GM of the NY Jets.  You decided, you're not going to take TL or Fields, what would you rather have;

A win last night with Joe Flacco on a team that is going to be completely turned over (including probably the coaching staff)?

or 

You trade with the Colts, get a haul and now have hypothetically 12 picks in the first 2 rounds for the next 2 years?

 

Just now, joewilly12 said:

If the NY Jets get the #1 pick going 0-16 you don't trade it. 

This was a hypothetical question to a person who isnt sold on TL and Fields but this hot take is much appreciated and definitely, unique. 

 

 

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, Untouchable said:

I don’t know why some are acting like Lawrence would be walking into the same sh*tty situation.

Upwards of $100 million in cap space, probably at least 6 picks in the Top 100 alone, another two 1st rounders in 2022, etc.

Say the Jets sign a legit wideout like Robinson or Godwin, land another cornerstone OL like Thuney (who was supposedly JD’s #1 target last year) and maybe bring in a decent receiving TE like Gerald Everett...then they walk away from the Top 35 with Lawrence, Trey Smith and Etienne/Harris.

 

QB Trevor Lawrence 

 

RB Travis Etienne

 

WR Allen Robinson

WR Denzel Mims

WR Jamison Crowder

 

TE Gerald Everett 

LT Mekhi Becton 

LG Joe Thuney

C Connor McGovern

RG Trey Smith

RT George Fant 

 

 

Please explain to me how the hell that is some kind of dire supporting cast for a young QB? And it’s all perfectly attainable.

 

 

It only looked terrible because Sam Darnold is a garbage QB who is incapable of making the talent around him look better.  And Gase didn't help matters either.

[Irish Jet]

2 hours ago, Warfish said:

Nope.

Losing begets losing. 

And we're a decade long embarrassment with nothing to show for it, despite how often these same Fans have rooted for losses because the Draft...

We're hearing all the same B.S. we heard before we got Sam Darnold.

It's almost like Jets Fans get collective amnesia every year about these things.

T.L. is not a saviour.  We'll suck with him just like we suck now, without a wholesale change at every level of this franchise  and a massive improvement in overall team talent.  One draft pick doesn't get you any of that, it just gets another four years of the same folks now rooting for losses yelling at anyone who doubts anything about T.L. for being "bad fans", just like they did for Darnold till the realized the truth.

Same old, Same Old, nothing ever changes here.

Wake me when one of these "lose for the draft" years actually works out for US.  So far, nada, and we've been here often.

And throughout that decade long embarrassment we've only landed a top 5 pick once. We've literally never got the top pick in that time. Not sure we're the ones with amnesia - The results seem to contradict your point. 

Perhaps a Newton, Luck or Murray could have helped us out these last 10 years. They were/are huge parts in turning their franchise around. The value the #1 pick has this year is extremely high - There's a reason it could probably get you a haul of future firsts. 

[RutgersJetFan]

[Jetsfan80]

7 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said:

Flacco, Perriman, Gore are not Jets. 

I'd be happy to have Perriman back as a WR3/WR4.  I don't see anyone paying him to be a WR2, so a reasonable 2-year deal seems possible.

[carlito1171]

8 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said:

Flacco, Perriman, Gore are not Jets. 

Exactly they’re just placeholders 

Rooting for Ws with them getting most of the playing time is very simpleminded IMHO 

[JustInFudge]

4 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

And throughout that decade long embarrassment we've only landed a top 5 pick once. We've literally never got the top pick in that time. Not sure we're the ones with amnesia - The results seem to contradict your point. 

Perhaps a Newton, Luck or Murray could have helped us out these last 10 years. They were/are huge parts in turning their franchise around. The value the #1 pick has this year is extremely high - There's a reason it could probably get you a haul of future firsts. 

That is the other factor in the equation, we traded UP for Sanchez and Darnold.

 

[The Crusher]

20 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

All you f**kfaces who can't handle a lost season are a big reason this team never tanks properly and ends up with pick # 6.  The owners think the only way to keep the cash flow coming is to shoot for 6-10 every season. 

And some of you f**kers celebrate when the team wins meaningless games late in the season, because you actually think it carries over to the next season.  It never, ever does.

Stop telling people how to be entertained or how to fan.  You're not better than anyone else, and your preference for meaningless wins is simply wrong when it comes to what's best for the franchise in the long run.  Leave the damn board until January if you're so angry about fans rooting for losses.  It's not stopping for the next 7 games.

Ok, I got you. 
 

[NYJ1]

Yes I am. The point of a tank is to remain the worst team to get the best pick. The Jets achieved that last night and for most of the game they were beating the patsies like rented mules.....

[peebag]

4 hours ago, Scott Dierking said:

Here, let me tell you fans how you should think and feel. Because, this is how I think and feel. 

You are all terrible fans.

I take umbrage from your post because my fandom is superior and yours is lacking.

 

[Irish Jet]

47 minutes ago, Warfish said:

I don't want the team I love to be in the history books as one of the worst teams to ever play professional football.

Weren't you the guy talking about switching allegiance to the Football Team?

[Irish Jet]

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[Untouchable]

7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

 

It only looked terrible because Sam Darnold is a garbage QB who is incapable of making the talent around him look better.  And Gase didn't help matters either.

It’s starting to look more and more like that’s the case.

I think everyone knows I’ve been a massive Darnold fan for a long time, but the kid looks completely broken.

Isn’t seeing the field, looks completely skittish in the pocket, is developing an injury history, etc.

If we can nab Lawrence or Fields and get an additional 2nd for him, I’ll call that a win.