pointman Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Belicheck is such a loser. His disdain for the Jets provides me with great joy and laughter. I don't want a pos like him waxing poetic about this team. How does that disheveled piece of filth have time to even talk about us? Shouldn't he be out having more kids with women who he isn't married to? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 MY GOODNESS HE'S RIGHT!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Who the hell cares obviously without TB12 he is a loser. Quit being a homer. He's one of the greatest coaches of all-time. I don't like it any more than you do, but let's be realistic. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, SAR I said: Who needs him? He got owned by Adam Gase last night. SAR I Maybe leased.....for 3 quarters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Savage69 said: He was originally the HC then Hess brought in the Tuna he never got over that even after Hess gave him a million and said he would be the HC once Parcells left.. Hess brought in Belichick and Tuna at the same time. The deal was that Belichick was going to be the HC with Parcells as the "consultant" for one season until Tuna's obligation to the Pats was over. The NFL knew it was a scam and they bartered the deal getting Parcells out of his Pats contract which allowed him to take the HC position and put Belichick into the DC spot, as he was going to do eventually anyway. To sit back and play 2nd fiddle until Parcells finished his 3 year stint Belichick was paid a cool mil to sit patiently. That had nothing to do with his hatred. I think he still carries the grudge from Guttman calling him all sorts of names after he quit and with the lawsuit filed by the Jets to pay back the million he gladly took to wait his turn but then was forced to return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Funny, I thought it was falling ass backward into Tom Brady. I hope he coaches another 20 miserable years just like this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, PCP63 said: Quit being a homer. He's one of the greatest coaches of all-time. I don't like it any more than you do, but let's be realistic. Yes a football mastermind genius but without TB12 right now he's a loser. No homer FACT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: Gase is the head coach tho Gregg is allowed to run the defense autonomously tho. Not for long. Only 7 more games until Gase lets him go. SAR I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 53 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Hess brought in Belichick and Tuna at the same time. The deal was that Belichick was going to be the HC with Parcells as the "consultant" for one season until Tuna's obligation to the Pats was over. The NFL knew it was a scam and they bartered the deal getting Parcells out of his Pats contract which allowed him to take the HC position and put Belichick into the DC spot, as he was going to do eventually anyway. To sit back and play 2nd fiddle until Parcells finished his 3 year stint Belichick was paid a cool mil to sit patiently. That had nothing to do with his hatred. I think he still carries the grudge from Guttman calling him all sorts of names after he quit and with the lawsuit filed by the Jets to pay back the million he gladly took to wait his turn but then was forced to return But what caused him to quit in the first place? BP apparently saw the fax from Kraft and immediately stepped down so BB could take the job. Did BB think BP wasn't going to leave so he wanted to go to the Pats? Then there was the issue about compensation and BB got upset at the Jets from there? In the 30 for 30, he said that the 2 prospective owners were Dolan and the Johnsons and he had issues with both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, SAR I said: Gregg is allowed to run the defense autonomously tho. Not for long. Only 7 more games until Gase lets him go. SAR I Well Gase is in charge of the whole team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said: In the 30 for 30, he said that the 2 prospective owners were Dolan and the Johnsons and he had issues with both. How could he have a problem with Johnson, he didnt know him and he didnt come with a history like Dolan. I dont know how hes decided to change his story. I was reported that he didnt want to work with Parcells still around, overseeing the team. Now that makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 It really seems petty and childish on his part at this point.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Jet Nut said: How could he have a problem with Johnson, he didnt know him and he didnt come with a history like Dolan. I dont know how hes decided to change his story. I was reported that he didnt want to work with Parcells still around, overseeing the team. Now that makes sense He had several meetings with Woody Johnson prior to him buying the team And it wasn’t just Belichick who ran away from Woody so did Bill Parcells and Al Groh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fleming Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 8 hours ago, RSJ said: It really seems petty and childish on his part at this point. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Eh, it shows that the Jets have some psychological power over him. It’s takes strength to create that amount of hate in someone. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, Philc1 said: He had several meetings with Woody Johnson prior to him buying the team And it wasn’t just Belichick who ran away from Woody so did Bill Parcells and Al Groh Parcells wanted to stay, was asking for too much money. Woody didnt want Parcells working just for a check. Thats wrong. Al Groh wasnt into it and wanted the opportunity to coach his son at Virginia. All sounds good but is wrong. Just about every HC candidate the Jets wanted to hire, made offers to, they got. Its the way it is in NFL, there are a handful of jobs available in the whole world, they dont get passed on because of reasons you dream up. These are the ultimate type A people, they arent afraid of coaching for an org, any org. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Parcells wanted to stay, was asking for too much money. Woody didnt want Parcells working just for a check. Thats wrong. Al Groh wasnt into it and wanted the opportunity to coach his son at Virginia. All sounds good but is wrong. Just about every HC candidate the Jets wanted to hire, made offers to, they got. Its the way it is in NFL, there are a handful of jobs available in the whole world, they dont get passed on because of reasons you dream up. These are the ultimate type A people, they arent afraid of coaching for an org, any org. Lots of people leave multimillion dollar jobs for no real reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: Lots of people leave multimillion dollar jobs for no real reason They just dont need to blame their leaving on someone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 13 hours ago, JetPotato said: I look at it as a great moment in Jets history too. Can you imagine being such a human puke that you can win 6 championships and still be widely loathed by the entire football viewing universe? All he had to do was NOT BE a cheating, lying, poor sportsman, miserable, grumbling pile of trash and he would be revered by all forever. Take your trophies, I wouldn't want them associated with him. I have too much self respect to go have gone down the road most of the Fandom of the Pats did, actually contorting reality to believe that they are victims. "You hate us 'cause you ain't us." - Every deluded Cheats fan under 40 ever born. "Everybody does it." - Almost every Cheats fan ever born. "The Cheats cheat, have cheated, and probably will always be associated with cheating. Ill-gotten means, ill-gotten results." - Cheats fans . . . all two of them. "Roger Goodell is always out to get us. He's a buffoon!" - Selective amnesia that said buffoon ordered the stomping and destruction of an entire tape room because there's nothing to see here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Blast Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I don't care how wronged he felt. 20 years have gone by and we are still in his head. Get over it! Its just a shytty thing to say any way you look at it. What a creep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 9 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: Well Gase is in charge of the whole team When The Defense Is Strong: "Adam Gase is just a glorified offensive coordinator, that's Gregg Williams' show." When The Defense Sucks: "Adam Gase is in charge of the whole team." Ya can't have it both ways, sorry. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 OK, here's an encapsulation - sort of, it's long - from another website from a couple of years ago. It's also a copy and paste job because I'm too lazy to write out the same thoughts all over again. So as opposed to What I Did on My Christmas Vacation, here's Why Constipated Bill Hates the Jets So Much: "Many facets to the diamond. In Belicheat's case, many facets to the cubic zirconia. Belicheat was actually the HC for the Jets TWICE. Belicheat was named iterim HC while the Jets were trying to pilfer Parcells from the Cheats. If that fell through, Belicheat would be named the official HC. It didn't fall through, he was a little peeved but he stuck around figuring he'd get his chance here again or somewhere else. In May of '99, Hess kicked the pail. Ownership was uncertain and things were unstable and the team was for sale. Testaverde blew out his achilles in what was slated to be another SB run. '99 also blew (speaking of blowing) so in early 2000 Fat Bill does what he does best: he quit (I'll get to that). Woody the rube still hadn't purchased the Jets as of yet, but the Hess family was very vocal they wanted out. Belicheat had a clause in his contract that if Fat Bill resigned as HC, which he did, Belicheat would become HC. He did. For a day. Parcells was made GM so Belicheat pitched a fit because he felt he would be under Parcells thumb at every turn and would flat out meddle in coaching and every other goddamn thing so he told the Jets to F themselves after stealing a million dollars from a dying old man. Belicheat felt that the Jets completely tooled him so he quit, much to Fat Bill's chagrin (which I don't completely buy). Publicly and officially Krafty Kraft hadn't offered Belicheat the HC job, but when he did, he gave him absolute control as HC/GM. Whether or not Fat Bill actually knew about Belicheat going to NE is up for debate. Now I ain't no conspiracy theorist, but I'm sure there was collusion behind the scenes. Belicheat's reasons for leaving were: 1) team was for sale, new owners often bring in their own people so his job as HC was tenuous 2) he wanted out from under Parcell's thumb and 3) he felt the Jets tooled him not only once, but twice. In the end it really was about control and revenge. He has unadulterated hatred for the Jets which he doesn't attempt to hide, and consequently cheated into the record books as well as the HOF (which will happen the second he resigns). Scumbag. Not you, him. It's not as if I blame him, but the cheating that followed, he ruined himself in the eyes of many. Not that it matters, least of all to him, because he's a text book narcissist. Most people don't care because people are highly skilled at wearing blinders and glorifying the wrong things for the wrong reasons. I hope I answered your question." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 22 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: lol why does this guy hate us so much? Did Woody sleep with his wife or something ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Philc1 said: He had several meetings with Woody Johnson prior to him buying the team And it wasn’t just Belichick who ran away from Woody so did Bill Parcells and Al Groh Al Groh took the bullet for Parcells and coached for one year. Did that as a favor to Parcells for making his career. Then, like the rest, ran like hell out of here for UVA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 22 hours ago, pointman said: Belicheck is such a loser. His disdain for the Jets provides me with great joy and laughter. I don't want a pos like him waxing poetic about this team. How does that disheveled piece of filth have time to even talk about us? Shouldn't he be out having more kids with women who he isn't married to? This level of sarcasm and scathing wit scratches me where I itch, especially because angry is my middle name. I like that you went with filth instead of sh it, I might've blown that one. Well done. For all of Constipated Bill's Machiavellian cheatin' ways, let it be noted that he was dumb enough - or narcissistic enough? - to mail Sharon Shenocca cash repeatedly in a Cheats facility envelope. I mean, return address, duh, seriously? I remember when @jgb's funny as hell Dad posted The New York Post link over the brownstone, hahahahaha. It's probably scrubbed from the internet, because I couldn't find it. Anyway, unrelated, but this will have to do: EDIT: WAIT! NOT THE NEW YORK POST! But I think @SouthernJet's post was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I read somewhere that Tuna caught wind of Mumbles flirtation with New England and then promptly resigned forcing Mumbles into the head coach spot. Tuna wasn't going to resign that year until Belly tried leaving for New England. Just imagine if Tuna never came to the Jets. We would've had Mumbles and Manning for 15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Not sure how Belichick is considering his escape a "greatest" moment in his life. It was more a fortunate moment. Great moments are designed within a plan and come after careful contemplation and clarity of thought. Belichick's escape appeared clumsy, confused and the manifestation of a deranged individual with a tortured mind. It truly was just an escape. Much like being in a violent car crash, that one is able to walk away luckily unscathed. And then mommy buys you a brand new car and you are driving again. He was fortunate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talonmm Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 11/10/2020 at 5:41 PM, Savage69 said: He was originally the HC then Hess brought in the Tuna he never got over that even after Hess gave him a million and said he would be the HC once Parcells left.. Somehow he does not seem upset with Bill Parcells. Could some of his animosity be from Eric Mangini exposing his cheating during Spygate? Seems like there is an unwritten rule in the NFL that you leave things be and don't snitch on your co-workers. I am not expressing an opinion, I'm just asking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I wish BB would just come out and state what most of us believe as fact. He had NO desire to work under Woody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 7 hours ago, Scott Dierking said: Not sure how Belichick is considering his escape a "greatest" moment in his life. It was more a fortunate moment. Great moments are designed within a plan and come after careful contemplation and clarity of thought. Belichick's escape appeared clumsy, confused and the manifestation of a deranged individual with a tortured mind. It truly was just an escape. Much like being in a violent car crash, that one is able to walk away luckily unscathed. And then mommy buys you a brand new car and you are driving again. He was fortunate. I would consider a career change that catapulted me from being the head coach of a mediocre team to the head coach of a successful team that then enjoyed the longest stretch of winning seasons in NFL history one of the greatest moments of my life. I don't think this needs deep inspection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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