Jamal Adams, thru 4 games played in Seattle

[Jetsfan80]

• 1 Pass Deflection
• 15 completions allowed on 20 targets (75 completion %)
• 116.7 QB Rating when targeted
• 13.6 yards allowed per target

 

But he does have 3.5 sacks so that's cool.

Gregg Williams was right (partially).  Seattle isn't using him like he was used here.  But he was wrong about one thing:  Adams isn't "bored".  He's getting targeted far too often to be bored out there. 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

I was wrong about him. I thought he’d be a good piece for a good team but boy oh boy. Talk about zero impact. He’s literally just good for blitzing. 
 

Thanks for the picks Seattle. 

[SR24]

Hey buddy that’s a generational talent you’re talking about!!!!!!!! 

[Jetsfan80]

5 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said:

I was wrong about him. I thought he’d be a good piece for a good team but boy oh boy. Talk about zero impact. He’s literally just good for blitzing. 
 

Thanks for the picks Seattle. 

 

Even I thought he'd play pretty well for them.  After all, he wouldn't be the first Safety to have success under Pete Carroll.  We still would have won the trade, easily, but some Jamalbros would be busy trying to take the rest of us to task.  "You see!  You see!  Impact on a winning team!"

But this?  This is just delicious.  Douglas not only won the trade, but it very well could get their GM fired, along with a defensive coach(es).  

Two 1sts and a 3rd, baby!

[Drums]

I liked Jamal but he went straight up douche bag this offseason and I couldn’t be happier about how average he is now. You don’ played yo’self fool. 

[ZachEY]

8 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

• 1 Pass Deflection
• 15 completions allowed on 20 targets (75 completion %)
• 116.7 QB Rating when targeted
• 13.6 yards allowed per target

 

But he does have 3.5 sacks so that's cool.

Gregg Williams was right (partially).  Seattle isn't using him like he was used here.  But he was wrong about one thing:  Adams isn't "bored".  He's getting targeted far too often to be bored out there. 

It's

Because

He's

A

Linebacker

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, TeddEY said:

It's

Because

He's

A

Linebacker

 

Sure.  But a lot of Linebackers are good in coverage.  He's a complete disaster. 

And yet you had Jets fans screaming for years about him being underrated in coverage based on PFF numbers (you know, the same ones that said Kerry Rhodes was a superior Safety) and some other nonsense.

[Drums]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

Even I thought he'd play pretty well for them.  After all, he wouldn't be the first Safety to have success under Pete Carroll.  We still would have won the trade, easily, but some Jamalbros would be busy trying to take the rest of us to task.  "You see!  You see!  Impact on a winning team!"

But this?  This is just delicious.  Douglas not only won the trade, but it very well could get their GM fired, along with a defensive coach(es).  

Two 1sts and a 3rd, baby!

Also I like how JD played it. He could have traded him during last season when all fans loved him and probably would have had  less support in general. Instead, he let Jamal shoot his way out of town, had the fan support for the trade, and made a KILLING for a guy that’s just average at this point. 

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, Drums said:

he went straight up douche bag this offseason

[Drums]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

Sure.  But a lot of Linebackers are good in coverage.  He's a complete disaster. 

And yet you had Jets fans screaming for years about him being underrated in coverage based on PFF numbers (you know, the same ones that said Kerry Rhodes was a superior Safety) and some other nonsense.

I wasn’t super loud about it but I believed he was better in coverage too. Boy were we all wrong. 

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, Drums said:

Also I like how JD played it. He could have traded him during last season when all fans loved him and probably would have had  less support in general. Instead, he let Jamal shoot his way out of town, had the fan support for the trade, and made a KILLING for a guy that’s just average at this point. 

Average would be a vast improvement.  He's one of the worst players in coverage in the entire NFL right now.  And given how bad secondary play is across the league, that's quite the accomplishment.  

His occasional pass rush success doesn't outweigh his complete ability to make any other plays out there.  As @bitonti likes to say, they're "empty sacks".  

[Beerfish]

The no name street psquad free agent that filled in for him played much better.

Of course the pre trade crystal ball comments are coming true, 'he is not being used as he should be" as in compromise your whole defense for him and 'Ken norton needs to be fired'

[Drums]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Average would be a vast improvement.  He's one of the worst players in coverage in the entire NFL right now.  And given how bad secondary play is across the league, that's quite the accomplishment.  

 

[T0mShane]

The Seahawks are $8 million under the cap next year and have to re-up their CB1 and OLT. I think it’s 50/50 that they try to flip Adams to the Cowboys and recoup a few picks after this season. It’s simply impossible to justify paying him based on his production. Also doesn’t help that a 212 lb ILB has predictably been hurt for half the season. 

[Larz]

I can’t believe he can’t cover Edelman option routes out of the slot 

lots of safeties get that assignment and shut him down 

[Beerfish]

2 minutes ago, Larz said:

I can’t believe he can’t cover Edelman option routes out of the slot 

lots of safeties get that assignment and shut him down 

Edelman torched him for a career high in yards and on routes he does not normally run.

ILBs cannot cover edelman, all pro safeties should be able to least marginally.

[Church01]

Can't stay healthy and wouldn't surprise me if his career was a short one. The grass isn't always greener especially Seattle green.

[David Harris]

Jamal can impact games.  He brings some value.  But is not worth the mouth or the price tag and I am happy JD got a great return for him.

If he was on a good defense he'd be a nice addition.  However he makes Seattle's weakest group weaker - pass defense.

[Jetsfan80]

11 minutes ago, Larz said:

I can’t believe he can’t cover Edelman option routes out of the slot 

lots of safeties get that assignment and shut him down 

Yes, these numbers are only based on his coverage of Edelman.  He hasn't been getting his a$$ handed to him in the other 3 games or anything.  And for two 1sts and a 3rd, he damn well better be able to cover Edelman, at least adequately. 

Another great Larz take!  Stick to posting the pics of Norwegian chicks.  You're completely useless to JN otherwise.  Much like Jamal Adams is completely useless in Seattle.

[New York Mick]

It’s ok the bad man can’t hurt you anymore. 

[Jetsfan80]

2 minutes ago, New York Mick said:

It’s ok the bad man can’t hurt you anymore. 

Of course not, he sucks at football.  He can't hurt anyone these days. 

This is about schadenfreude.

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, New York Mick said:

It’s ok the bad man can’t hurt you anymore. 

I feel like if Jamal Adams had six INTs right now and the Seahawks defense was good, we’d have a lot more Jamal Adams content on the front page than we currently do. 

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

I feel like if Jamal Adams had six INTs right now and the Seahawks defense was good, we’d have a lot more Jamal Adams content on the front page than we currently do. 

Exactly.  The @kevinc855 @bitonti @Defense Wins Championships brigade would be all over that sh*t.  

Instead we have a DWC thread about how having a QB is actually good.  lulz.  Ironic coming from the guy who thought Jamal Adams >>> Mahomes/Watson.

[New York Mick]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Of course not, he sucks at football.  He can't hurt anyone these days. 

This is about schadenfreude.

It’s about being the fan of a sh*tty team and looking for something to feel good about 

[Jetsfan80]

Just now, New York Mick said:

It’s about being the fan of a sh*tty team and looking for something to feel good about 

And what, exactly, is wrong with that?

[BROOKLYN JET]

He's great because Seattle traded Bradley McDougald (safety), 1st-round pick in 2021, 3rd-round pick in 2021, and 1st-round pick in 2022 for him, and Pete Carroll is a genius.

#PacLogic 

[New York Mick]

5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

And what, exactly, is wrong with that?

It’s pathetic 

[Jetsfan80]

Just now, New York Mick said:

It’s pathetic 

Just being a Jets fan is pathetic on its own.  So this doesn't impact me.  

[MichaelScott]

49 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

Even I thought he'd play pretty well for them.  After all, he wouldn't be the first Safety to have success under Pete Carroll.  We still would have won the trade, easily, but some Jamalbros would be busy trying to take the rest of us to task.  "You see!  You see!  Impact on a winning team!"

But this?  This is just delicious.  Douglas not only won the trade, but it very well could get their GM fired, along with a defensive coach(es).  

Two 1sts and a 3rd, baby!... For a safety?

Add the bolded part and you're absolutely right about the type of trade that gets a GM fired!

I can't wait to see what JD does with these picks. I'd bet money that in 2-4 years time there won't be a single person willing to admit they wanted to keep Adams. 

[Alka]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

• 1 Pass Deflection
• 15 completions allowed on 20 targets (75 completion %)
• 116.7 QB Rating when targeted
• 13.6 yards allowed per target

 

But he does have 3.5 sacks so that's cool.

Gregg Williams was right (partially).  Seattle isn't using him like he was used here.  But he was wrong about one thing:  Adams isn't "bored".  He's getting targeted far too often to be bored out there. 

I must admit that I was wrong about Adams.  I viewed him as a great player, but I was mistaken.  He does certain things great, and certain things he is no better than average.  

I compare Adams to Mark Gastineau in a way.  Mark was amazing at getting sacks, but against the run, he was no better than average.  That is why Mark is not in the Hall of Fame, and never will be. While premature, I feel confident that Jamal will not get there either.

[Beerfish]

54 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

And what, exactly, is wrong with that?

Well it makes all the Jamal lovers look like crap mostly,  All the guys that lectured the hell out of people for doubting his greatness and impact on the team.  As I've said before the 'move on crowd' are always the people that were 100% wrong on the topic being dicussed.

On a happier note I went out shopping today and bought a new winter coat, gloves, snow pants and some other things and also came away with this beauty !

 

[Losmeister]

59 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I feel like if Jamal Adams had six INTs right now and the Seahawks defense was good, we’d have a lot more Jamal Adams content on the front page than we currently do. 

Thenon believers have been taking it easy. But then again, the non believers are actually th ones who know a little something about foot ball...and that %-age around here is 15% or less... so....

[Sarge4Tide]

[Drums]

Did anyone else see Jamal giving his RA RA speech on Sunday and the announcers calling him out saying he needed to step up his own game? I chuckled. 

[Jetsfan80]

6 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Well it makes all the Jamal lovers look like crap mostly,  All the guys that lectured the hell out of people for doubting his greatness and impact on the team.  As I've said before the 'move on crowd' are always the people that were 100% wrong on the topic being dicussed.

Yep.  And meanwhile that pro-Jamal crowd will come back in full force if/when Adams has a decent game, OR Douglas uses one of those Adams picks to take a player they don't like. 

He's sure to make a play in the Jets game, because everyone else has against the Jets, and that will be a loud moment for the Jamalbros too.