If, as seems likely, the Jets have the #1 Draft Pick.....

[Sarge4Tide]

If, as seems likely, the Jets have the #1 Draft Pick, do you draft a QB (Lawrence or Fields) or do you trade down, compile a lot of extra picks, and build around Sam Darnold

[Rhg1084]

4 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

If, as seems likely, the Jets have the #1 Draft Pick, do you draft a QB (Lawrence or Fields) or do you trade down, compile a lot of extra picks, and build around Sam Darnold

Here we go again 

[The Gooch]

7 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

If, as seems likely, the Jets have the #1 Draft Pick, do you draft a QB (Lawrence or Fields) or do you trade down, compile a lot of extra picks, and build around Sam Darnold

Old News!!!

[14 in Green]

12 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

If, as seems likely, the Jets have the #1 Draft Pick, do you draft a QB (Lawrence or Fields) or do you trade down, compile a lot of extra picks, and build around Sam Darnold

Jeez. Where have you been the last couple of years?

We drafted a franchise QB in 2018. He's only 23 years old...

[Sarge4Tide]

2 minutes ago, 14 in Green said:

Jeez. Where have you been the last couple of years?

We drafted a franchise QB in 2018. He's only 23 years old...

Did you see where there are options in the poll to trade down and build around Darnold?

[Ohhthepain]

I dont see us getting the top pick. It would be too perfect for the Jets. God knows Jets fans dont deserve good things...

[Beerfish]

They will take Lawrence as they should.  As a GM I would listen to offers though and if someone went crazy I'd be tempted to trade down.

The part of drafting #1 that gets over looked often is that huge advantage it is to draft at the top of each round.

 

[BleedinGreenNC]

I am all for trading down and getting Sam some weapons.

[southparkcpa]

3 hours ago, Ohhthepain said:

I dont see us getting the top pick. It would be too perfect for the Jets. God knows Jets fans dont deserve good things...

No.... we get it, we just fukk it up!!!! Thats the Jets way!

[rangerous]

i'm from missouri, show me.  show me that lawrence is a generational talent.  as i recall parcells had rick mirer ranked above bledsoe.  how'd that work out?  not that either of those guys were on the same level as mahomes or rodgers or brees but they were highly touted and only bledsoe had a career worth writing about.

but if lawrence is the real deal then the jets should pick him if they can.  they can find a place for him.  and they also may have a very different opinion of darnold than we fans.  it's hard to gage because this team has been so crappy in other ways.

[section314]

1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

They will take Lawrence as they should.  As a GM I would listen to offers though and if someone went crazy I'd be tempted to trade down.

The part of drafting #1 that gets over looked often is that huge advantage it is to draft at the top of each round.

 

That's why you killed it in last year's JN mock. That, and your scouting brilliance.?

[Icer]

Draft a QB. I can help pack Sam's bags if needed

[Beerfish]

10 minutes ago, section314 said:

That's why you killed it in last year's JN mock. That, and your scouting brilliance.?

Yes indeed, makes big difference.

[Jetsfan80]

44 minutes ago, BleedinGreenNC said:

I am all for trading down and getting Sam some weapons.

A QB who sucks for 32 starts isn't magically getting fixed with new weaponry.  

[Creepy Lurker]

How about trade down and build around another future QB? These options that include Darnold disgust me. 

[Jetsfan80]

4 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said:

How about trade down and build around another future QB? These options that include Darnold disgust me. 

Are you talking about a veteran option or one of the "lesser" QB prospects, like Lance, Zach Wilson, etc?

[MARTIN]

Anyone here knows deep inside their bones... Jets will win 1-2 games and land us in the 2-5 pick. We aren't going 0-16.

[Jetsfan80]

13 minutes ago, MARTIN said:

Anyone here knows deep inside their bones... Jets will win 1-2 games and land us in the 2-5 pick. We aren't going 0-16.

There have been a couple times this season where I thought for sure the Jets would screw it all up (Denver game and MNF).  Both times the Jets snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

This is a historically bad team with a historically bad coach.  If this team is going to win 1 game, much less 2, a LOT has to go wrong.  It's very possible that window has passed.  It's also very possible/likely Jacksonville wins a game down the stretch, making it moot.

Even if the Jets DO win 1 game, and Jacksonville loses out, I'll be more than happy with the 2nd pick.  Fields is more than a consolation prize; I think he's every bit as good as Trevor Lawrence.

I don't see any scenario possible where the Jets are picking lower than 2nd.

[Creepy Lurker]

34 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Are you talking about a veteran option or one of the "lesser" QB prospects, like Lance, Zach Wilson, etc?

Veteran option and wait to get a QB once the roster is good to maximize the rookie QB window. I just cannot see “building around San Darnold” as an option. 

[Barry McCockinner]

I can see both sides for sure but prefer to trade down and build the team if we can get a haul. That's not necessarily for Sam either. It's for whoever our QB ends up being. Maybe it's Sam, maybe it's someone else. Whomever it is will have a much better chance at success if we stack the roster with high end talent.

[MARTIN]

46 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

There have been a couple times this season where I thought for sure the Jets would screw it all up (Denver game and MNF).  Both times the Jets snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

This is a historically bad team with a historically bad coach.  If this team is going to win 1 game, much less 2, a LOT has to go wrong.  It's very possible that window has passed.  It's also very possible/likely Jacksonville wins a game down the stretch, making it moot.

Even if the Jets DO win 1 game, and Jacksonville loses out, I'll be more than happy with the 2nd pick.  Fields is more than a consolation prize; I think he's every bit as good as Trevor Lawrence.

I don't see any scenario possible where the Jets are picking lower than 2nd.

Agreed, Odds of us landing 1 or 2 gotta be close to 90%. Picking first is still probably only 60% as of now. 

[doublel9]

If Jets#1, Jags #2 I see Jags doing most anything to get TL.  Fields, Jags '21 2nd and '22 1st (would take '22 2nd if they balk) would be epic haul.

 

[Fantasy Island]

As sleeping ugly said in his presser,  he still has faith in Gase.  We are stuck with crap.  Doesn't matter.

He is either a liar or he is just dumb.

Yes, he is both.

[JTJet]

For the sake of argument...

Let's say we trade down with the Redskins, as it currently stands, drop down 5 spots, we could seriously repair our team. 

Amazingly, I think people are still underestimating how badly we need an influx of talent.

We could end up with 

2021 - 

1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 7 + 90 Mil Cap

2022 - 

1, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6, 7 + 50-70 Mil Cap

That's a HELL of a canvas for JD to paint with, a man that has said he wants to build through the draft more times that I can count. 

Imagine a FA with:

Joe Thuney, Allen Robinson, Mo Alie-Cox, Bud Dupree, Mike Hilton 

And then...

The 2021 draft we could have 8 top 100 players... 

 

[New York Mick]

Trade down, get as many picks as possible, draft a QB with the top pick then draft oline, WRs, RBs, TEs and build around him. 
 

[Jet Life]

If the Jets have pick 1 or 2, either Lawrence or Fields will be a Jet. Period. 

[bealeb319]

Some experts say trevor lawrence could be the best prospect since peyton manning...if you think you have peyton manning you take him and don't think twice. If you have a shadow of a doubt or tl doesn't want to play for you then you trade for a haul and build around darnold.

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[Irish Jet]

Anyone arguing anything but taking a QB has lost their god damn mind. 

[predator_05]

6 hours ago, New York Mick said:

Trade down, get as many picks as possible, draft a QB with the top pick then draft oline, WRs, RBs, TEs and build around him. 
 

 

6 hours ago, JTJet said:

For the sake of argument...

Let's say we trade down with the Redskins, as it currently stands, drop down 5 spots, we could seriously repair our team. 

Amazingly, I think people are still underestimating how badly we need an influx of talent.

We could end up with 

2021 - 

1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 7 + 90 Mil Cap

2022 - 

1, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6, 7 + 50-70 Mil Cap

That's a HELL of a canvas for JD to paint with, a man that has said he wants to build through the draft more times that I can count. 

Imagine a FA with:

Joe Thuney, Allen Robinson, Mo Alie-Cox, Bud Dupree, Mike Hilton 

And then...

The 2021 draft we could have 8 top 100 players... 

 

 

 

Completely agree with the above. 

 

The fanbase wants a savior, a quick fix, but the only reasonable path forward is a multi-year rebuild. This team has FAR too many weaknesses, and not enough foundational pillars. 

 

The next 2 years should be spent acquiring foundational players, like Becton and Quinnen williams. Sewell is also one of those, a can't miss prospect with exceptional athleticism. Strengthen the offensive and defensive lines. 

 

There's no point in throwing an overrated rookie QB into the fire, as exciting as that may be for the fans and the media. 

I know its boring to 'build through the draft', especially when you could easily splash cash on FAs and take the 'consensus number 1 generational superstar talent'. But the front office should have the good sense to ignore the noise. 

[Irish Jet]

38 minutes ago, predator_05 said:

 

 

Completely agree with the above. 

 

The fanbase wants a savior, a quick fix, but the only reasonable path forward is a multi-year rebuild. This team has FAR too many weaknesses, and not enough foundational pillars. 

 

The next 2 years should be spent acquiring foundational players, like Becton and Quinnen williams. Sewell is also one of those, a can't miss prospect with exceptional athleticism. Strengthen the offensive and defensive lines. 

 

There's no point in throwing an overrated rookie QB into the fire, as exciting as that may be for the fans and the media. 

I know its boring to 'build through the draft', especially when you could easily splash cash on FAs and take the 'consensus number 1 generational superstar talent'. But the front office should have the good sense to ignore the noise. 

We started the rebuild last year. That was why drafted a LT and a WR.

The situation really isn't that bad for a QB if the resources we have are spent correctly - I'd actually say it's better than Cincy was for Burrow.

QB is the position in football. If you get a great one you can compete every year almost regardless. You don't f*cking pass on generational prospects so you can build a team around a soon to be overpaid Sam Darnold and James f*cking Morgan.

Until we have a QB we have to get a QB. 

 

[Irish Jet]

6 hours ago, JTJet said:

For the sake of argument...

Let's say we trade down with the Redskins, as it currently stands, drop down 5 spots, we could seriously repair our team. 

Amazingly, I think people are still underestimating how badly we need an influx of talent.

We could end up with 

2021 - 

1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 7 + 90 Mil Cap

2022 - 

1, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6, 7 + 50-70 Mil Cap

That's a HELL of a canvas for JD to paint with, a man that has said he wants to build through the draft more times that I can count. 

Imagine a FA with:

Joe Thuney, Allen Robinson, Mo Alie-Cox, Bud Dupree, Mike Hilton 

And then...

The 2021 draft we could have 8 top 100 players... 

 

There is less than zero chance Sewell is making it to 5.

[Wonderboy]

8 hours ago, Fantasy Island said:

As sleeping ugly said in his presser,  he still has faith in Gase.  We are stuck with crap.  Doesn't matter.

He is either a liar or he is just dumb.

Yes, he is both.

Take that nonsense with a grain of salt. JD said same thing about Jamal. 

[Jimmy 2 Times]

If we have the number 1 pick and the Jags have the number 2, I'm listening to what they have to offer.

If it's both their ones and a 2021 one, I'm dropping a slot and taking Fields. 

Use those 5 ones in 20 and 21 to build a monster unit around him. 

 

I'd let him know he was our top choice all along and let him have that chip on his shoulder that the Jags gave up the house to move up one slot.  

[predator_05]

1 hour ago, Irish Jet said:

We started the rebuild last year. That was why drafted a LT and a WR.

The situation really isn't that bad for a QB if the resources we have are spent correctly - I'd actually say it's better than Cincy was for Burrow.

QB is the position in football. If you get a great one you can compete every year almost regardless. You don't f*cking pass on generational prospects so you can build a team around a soon to be overpaid Sam Darnold and James f*cking Morgan.

Until we have a QB we have to get a QB. 

 

Here we go with the 'generational' schtick again...

 

Trever lawrence is not a 'generational' talent. This word is abused beyond belief, it has no meaning any more. He is a good QB, in what happens to be a good QB class.

If he was the only good QB in his class, then there wouldn't be a need to debate this. 

 

I never suggested that the Jets ignore the QB. I'm in favor of drafting a QB like Trey Lance or Zach wilson, who have the same upside and talent as Lawrence, but lack the 'big school' pedigree. 

A combination of Sewell + <underrated rookie QB> is better than drafting Lawrence 1.01. 

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

Where is the option for building a fortress for a QB who may or may not be Darnold? I'd be open to a massive trade that included a combination of players and draft picks. When I say massive, I mean something that makes the Herschel Walker trade seem weak. 

I'm also open to drafting a "once in a lifetime" talent and trying to build around him while he is wet behind the ears.