James Morgan Will Never Be The Backup QB This Season

[jetsrule128]

 

 

[Defense Wins Championships]

Well, no sh*t!

He's a jag prospect who had a 5 year NCAA career with a completion percentage within the 50s on a joke FIU football program; JD completely wasted a 4th round pick on this worthless JAG prospect. 

Sam Darnold needed offensive weapons and O-Lineman prospects not "James Morgan" come the 4th round. 

[pdxgreen]

(Double post)

[Spoot-Face]

5 minutes ago, pdxgreen said:

The Chargers put a rookie QB in with no reps and the worst OC on Div I football... five minutes to game time. He's puting up record numbers.  

We can even find a rookie to even spot start?

Jeez.  I hope Joe's judgement is better than Macc's when it comes to falling in love with rookie QBs.

Well, considering Hackenturd was picked in the 2nd round and Morgan in the 4th round, I think it's safe to say his judgment is already better.

[pdxgreen]

2 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

Well, considering Hackenturd was picked in the 2nd round and Morgan in the 4th round, I think it's safe to say his judgment is already better.

Except for the 'second receiver that never was."

[jetsrule128]

Mike White meanwhile in 8 preseason games 

Game 1 vs 49ers 6/11 63 yards 0 TD O INT 

game 2 vs bengals 8/16 76 yards 0 TD 0 INT

Game 3 vs cardinals 17/22 157 yards 0 TD 1 INT 

game 4 vs Texans 13/21 118 yards 0 TD 0 INT 

game 5 vs 49ers 9/20 87 yards 0 TD 0 INT 

game 6 vs Rams 7/13 30 yards 0 TD 1 INT 

game 7 vs Texans 6/9 56 yards 1 TD 0 INT 

game 8 vs Buccaneers 14/26 132 Yards 0 TD 0 INT 

[Spoot-Face]

4 minutes ago, pdxgreen said:

Except for the 'second receiver that never was."

I think the #1 metric for judging the James Morgan pick will be how useful he becomes to the organization, i.e. can he become a capable back-up and win a few games, or can he be flipped down the round for net positive gain of draft pick(s)/player(s)?

If he flames out a la "The Hacken", then I'll lament on the WR that could've been (and I would've liked one). And, even if it becomes clear it was a wasted pick, it's still leagues better than the Hackenberg pick, because it was a 4th rounder, not a 2nd.

[Defense Wins Championships]

7 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

I think the #1 metric for judging the James Morgan pick will be how useful he becomes to the organization, i.e. can he become a capable back-up and win a few games, or can he be flipped down the round for net positive gain of draft pick(s)/player(s)?

If he flames out a la "The Hacken", then I'll lament on the WR that could've been (and I would've liked one). And, even if it becomes clear it was a wasted pick, it's still leagues better than the Hackenberg pick, because it was a 4th rounder, not a 2nd.

Nope. JD taking Morgan during the 4th is way worse than Macc taking Hack during the 2nd. 

At least Macc had an excuse for reaching on Hack ala we were a Franchise without a Franchise QB and at least Macc kicked the tires and TRIED to find one. Even though it was a failed pick the effort was there. 

With JD? We had a potential Franchise QB who was obviously struggling without offensive weapons and instead of trying to help Sam he drafted an awful 4th round QB prospect and a 6th round joke or a PUNTER. 

JD taking a jag 4th round QB with Sam's NFL life on the line can never be forgiven. 

 

[pdxgreen]

9 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

Nope. JD taking Morgan during the 4th is way worse than Macc taking Hack during the 2nd. 

At least Macc had an excuse for reaching on Hack ala we were a Franchise without a Franchise QB and at least Macc kicked the tires and TRIED to find one. Even though it was a failed pick the effort was there. 

With JD? We had a potential Franchise QB who was obviously struggling without offensive weapons and instead of trying to help Sam he drafted an awful 4th round QB prospect and a 6th round joke or a PUNTER. 

JD taking a jag 4th round QB with Sam's NFL life on the line can never be forgiven. 

 

The more people say this I'm beginning to wonder how much faith he had in Sam to begin with.  Douglas isn't stupid.  And he's been with enough organizations to see how you build around a QB.  Just strange that he wouldn't make those picks, players at offensive skill positions. Yeah we needed a better punter but we had one. We needed a backup QB but he wouldn't be ready in a year. Two receivers or maybe even a TE was a good way to give Sam a bigger cushion.  Later picks but maybe worth the risk.

[Defense Wins Championships]

4 minutes ago, pdxgreen said:

The more people say this I'm beginning to wonder how much faith he had in Sam to begin with.  Douglas isn't stupid.  And he's been with enough organizations to see how you build around a QB.  Just strange that he wouldn't make those picks, players at offensive skill positions. Yeah we needed a better punter but we had one. We needed a backup QB but he wouldn't be ready in a year. Two receivers or maybe even a TE was a good way to give Sam a bigger cushion.  Later picks but maybe worth the risk.

And letting Robby Anderson go (Sam's favorite offensive weapon) was another big red flag. 

Sam was a Maccagnan guy and I believe the ego of JD wanted to absolutely sabotage Sam in order to draft "his guy" @ QB come the 2021 draft.

[dcJet]

[JTJet]

26 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

Nope. JD taking Morgan during the 4th is way worse than Macc taking Hack during the 2nd

Stop...just stop. 

[pdxgreen]

23 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

And letting Robby Anderson go (Sam's favorite offensive weapon) was another big red flag. 

Sam was a Maccagnan guy and I believe the ego of JD wanted to absolutely sabotage Sam in order to draft "his guy" @ QB come the 2021 draft.

I know. But it's still a "tin foil hat" idea.  He sabotoges Sam and he leaves Gase out to dry. He may not want to help his QB.  But Gase was hired specifically to make Sam a great QB.  Also it makes Douglad look the laughing stock we now see in the owner's box at every game.  Going for Trevor over your current QB is still a terrible strategy. It's like burning your own house down to get an insurance settlement that doesn't even cover the cost of rebuilding it.  Douglas is in an even worse hole now with no QB.  It can't have been planned.  Just he was hoping for his moves to work with a depleted roster.  And it didn't make us competitive.

[JoJoTownsell1]

1 hour ago, pdxgreen said:

The Chargers put a rookie QB in with no reps and the worst OC on Div I football... five minutes to game time. He's putting up record numbers.  

We can't even find a rookie to even spot start?

Jeez.  I hope Joe's judgement is better than Macc's when it comes to falling for rookie QBs.

 

 

 

The reason for drafting Morgan was to groom him to be the backup the next 3 years (not this year). That is why they brought in Flacco. 

The hope is that Morgan is ready to be a competent backup next year and the following 2 years at a price tag of 1 million a year versus going out and paying Tyrod Taylor 6 million a year, Chase Daniel 5 million a year, Nick Foles (yeah, he sucks despite lucking into a Super Bowl) 8 million a year etc..

Would I have rather spent that draft capital on a WR or OL, of course, but I remember a few weeks ago people on this board calling Mims a bust because he couldn't get into games. Now that they finally see him, they seem pretty happy with him. Maybe we should wait until the kid actually plays a snap before calling his career a totally failure. 

[Mogglez]

37 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

Nope. JD taking Morgan during the 4th is way worse than Macc taking Hack during the 2nd. 

At least Macc had an excuse for reaching on Hack ala we were a Franchise without a Franchise QB and at least Macc kicked the tires and TRIED to find one. Even though it was a failed pick the effort was there. 

With JD? We had a potential Franchise QB who was obviously struggling without offensive weapons and instead of trying to help Sam he drafted an awful 4th round QB prospect and a 6th round joke or a PUNTER. 

JD taking a jag 4th round QB with Sam's NFL life on the line can never be forgiven. 

 

Are you seriously, with a straight face, trying to say that taking a 2nd round QB that never saw the field for any NFL team is less awful than taking a 4th round project QB that needs time to develop?

[Beerfish]

Horrible comment that is for sure.  Just bloody awful from a coach who went out of his way to bring in Falk and Fales.

And yes it was an awful awful pick, not Hackenburg bad but a terrible pick none the less.

You don't draft backups, if you do you do it very late and there was a lot of talent and still tons of holes on this team.

Douglas has done some very  good things but the Morgan pick was dumb.

 

[Bronx]

Hackenberg 2.0 

[DJF71]

3 hours ago, Spoot-Face said:

Well, considering Hackenturd was picked in the 2nd round and Morgan in the 4th round, I think it's safe to say his judgment is already better.

Well both QB's could have been had as UDFA's. 

[Dunnie]

Nope. JD taking Morgan during the 4th is way worse than Macc taking Hack during the 2nd. 
At least Macc had an excuse for reaching on Hack ala we were a Franchise without a Franchise QB and at least Macc kicked the tires and TRIED to find one. Even though it was a failed pick the effort was there. 
With JD? We had a potential Franchise QB who was obviously struggling without offensive weapons and instead of trying to help Sam he drafted an awful 4th round QB prospect and a 6th round joke or a PUNTER. 
JD taking a jag 4th round QB with Sam's NFL life on the line can never be forgiven. 
 

I'm sorry .. we had a franchise qb going into this year ???? Please do ne a favor and lend me your xray vision glasses so I can catch a glimpse.

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[GreenFish]

So are we really trusting Gase to provide feedback on how good players can be? This is the same guy that limited Robby’s play, calls Herndon a unicorn but doesn’t feature him in the offense and has a 40 year old RB taking reps from a clearly capable rookie RB.

The coaching staff knows it’s gone. We already saw Gregg trying to pin the issues on Gase. It won’t be too long before the coaching staff starts to pin it on the front office. They’re all trying to save face.

[68JET11]

7 hours ago, jetsrule128 said:

 

 

Before DWC jumps off the wagon, can we take it with a grain of salt with who is actually saying he's not ready ?  The man we all want fired.

[Scott Dierking]

I can't tell you what a relief it is to be so distraught over a 4th round pick, over let's say, anyone picked in the first three rounds.

[JustInFudge]

Meanwhile, 2 years in a row the Jacksonville Jaguars have been able to start a 6th round rookie and out play the Jets #3 overall pick. 

Adam Gase is the worst coach in the history of the NFL.

 

[JustInFudge]

6 hours ago, Mogglez said:

Are you seriously, with a straight face, trying to say that taking a 2nd round QB that never saw the field for any NFL team is less awful than taking a 4th round project QB that needs time to develop?

Stan brings the zingers, brah

[CanadaSteve]

7 hours ago, pdxgreen said:

The Chargers put a rookie QB in with no reps and the worst OC on Div I football... five minutes to game time. He's putting up record numbers.  

We can't even find a rookie to even spot start?

Jeez.  I hope Joe's judgement is better than Macc's when it comes to falling for rookie QBs.

 

Maybe the coach should just play him and find out?

[rangerous]

3 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said:

Maybe the coach should just play him and find out?

Yep. I just don’t get the idea of not playing the guy even now.  He can hand off. Give him 10 pass plays and that’s about a quarter of a game.  Maybe the disparaging comments about him being from fiu are valid but he was also a transfer. How’d he do elsewhere?

[Obrien2Toon]

He’s not even capable of being the backup

but some guy called Jake Luton is starting and playing capably 

[SAR I]

20 minutes ago, 68JET11 said:

Before DWC jumps off the wagon, can we take it with a grain of salt with who is actually saying he's not ready ?  The man we all want fired.

Petulant children want him fired, not actual fans. 

SAR I

[Scott Dierking]

4 minutes ago, rangerous said:

Yep. I just don’t get the idea of not playing the guy even now.  He can hand off. Give him 10 pass plays and that’s about a quarter of a game.  Maybe the disparaging comments about him being from fiu are valid but he was also a transfer. How’d he do elsewhere?

	Passing
Year	School	Conf	Class	Pos	G	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	TD	Int	Rate
Career	Overall					699	1221	57.2	8654	7.1	6.9	65	34	128.8
	Bowling Green State					279	538	51.9	3342	6.2	5.3	25	22	111.2
	Florida International					420	683	61.5	5312	7.8	8.2	40
*2015	Bowling Green State	MAC	FR	QB
2016	Bowling Green State	MAC	FR	QB	11	183	326	56.1	2082	6.4	5.3	16	15	116.8
2017	Bowling Green State	MAC	SO	QB	7	96	212	45.3	1260	5.9	5.3	9	7	102.6
*2018	Florida International	CUSA	JR	QB	12	213	326	65.3	2727	8.4	9.0	26	7	157.6
*2019	Florida International	CUSA	SR	QB	12	207	357	58.0	2585	7.2	7.4	14	5	128.9

 

[SAR I]

14 minutes ago, JiF said:

Meanwhile, 2 years in a row the Jacksonville Jaguars have been able to start a 6th round rookie and out play the Jets #3 overall pick. 

Adam Gase is the worst coach in the history of the NFL.

 

Sam Darnold busted all by himself.  He makes Mark Sanchez look like Peyton Manning. 

SAR I

[sec101row23]

19 minutes ago, JiF said:

Meanwhile, 2 years in a row the Jacksonville Jaguars have been able to start a 6th round rookie and out play the Jets #3 overall pick. 

Adam Gase is the worst coach in the history of the NFL.

 

Morgan is almost 24 years old, been practicing all season, was drafted in the 4th round, is playing on a team that is 0-9 with a 35 year old back up QB getting the start, and he still can’t get on the field?   He must be just pathetic in practice because other than that I can’t see why he isn’t playing.  

[Drums]

#qbwhisperer

[JustInFudge]

2 minutes ago, sec101row23 said:

Morgan is almost 24 years old, been practicing all season, was drafted in the 4th round, is playing on a team that is 0-9 with a 35 year old back up QB getting the start, and he still can’t get on the field?   He must be just pathetic in practice because other than that I can’t see why he isn’t playing.  

The sad part is, this isnt even a report about playing....it's a report about being the back up!!!

Adam Gase man, Adam Gase

[Scott Dierking]

Adam Gase is a horrible, horrible coach, let's get that out of the way first.

He is also trolling this fan base because, well, he can. He knows what is going to happen at the end of this year, and he has nothing to lose in terms of fan equity. He will twist the knife when he can. And he is.

 

[JustInFudge]

1 minute ago, Scott Dierking said:

Adam Gase is a horrible, horrible coach, let's get that out of the way first.

He is also trolling this fan base because, well, he can. He knows what is going to happen at the end of this year, and he has nothing to lose in terms of fan equity. He will twist the knife when he can. And he is.

 

I said this other day in a joking manner but I think it's real.  I think he likes being a villain.  I think he likes negative attention.  He seems to get off on it and he doesnt care because he's rich bitch!