Jetsfan80 119,804 #1 Posted November 24, 2020 With Darnold under center (2 games): 6 catches (10 targets) 84 yards 14 yards per reception 8.4 yards per target With Flacco under center (2 games) 7 catches (15 targets) 133 yards 19 yards per reception 8.9 yards per target 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 119,804 #2 Posted November 24, 2020 Also, same thing for Breshad Perriman: With Darnold under center (3 games) 7 catches (9 targets) 56 yards 8 yards per reception 6.2 yards per target With Flacco under center (3 games) 11 catches (19 targets) 217 yards 19.7 yards per reception 11.4 yards per target Yes, Crowder has done better with Darnold than with Flacco, as he hasn't really been getting targeted in the last couple games they played together. But they did put together a 8/116/1 TD game in Week 5. 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYJ1 1,575 #3 Posted November 24, 2020 In other words, IDENTICAL numbers pretty much. However, in Sammys case, Mims numbers should be MUCH better. Sammy has to pick up his game. He's played poorly this season not that he's gotten much support but Mims is certainly a step in the right direction. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
82nd Airborne 664 #4 Posted November 24, 2020 Sign Joe Flacco as an insurance for TL or Justin Bieber. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Augustiniak 7,554 #5 Posted November 24, 2020 More evidence that darnold is weak at throwing deep. We also saw him miss Robbie more than a few times. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slimjasi 10,092 #6 Posted November 24, 2020 Not surprising. Sam has bad deep ball accuracy/anticipation. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTJet 5,200 #7 Posted November 24, 2020 Extremely misleading. Mims two games didnt have Perriman. Perrimans two games didnt have Mims. That makes a difference. 23 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike135 4,764 #8 Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: More evidence that darnold is weak at throwing deep. We also saw him miss Robbie more than a few times. I saw Joe miss a couple this last game. Suppose it take a while and some practicing to get familiar/timing with each other. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 119,804 #9 Posted November 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, JTJet said: Extremely misleading. Mims two games didnt have Perriman. Perrimans two games didnt have Mims. That makes a difference. So suddenly Darnold will be able to throw an accurate deep ball when both are healthy? 3 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pointman 4,570 #10 Posted November 24, 2020 32 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Also, same thing for Breshad Perriman: With Darnold under center (3 games) 7 catches (9 targets) 56 yards 8 yards per reception 6.2 yards per target With Flacco under center (3 games) 11 catches (19 targets) 217 yards 19.7 yards per reception 11.4 yards per target Yes, Crowder has done better with Darnold than with Flacco, as he hasn't really been getting targeted in the last couple games they played together. But they did put together a 8/116/1 TD game in Week 5. Is this the part where someone chimes in that Sam needs more time and more weapo.. wait. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 119,804 #11 Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, pointman said: Is this the part where someone chimes in that Sam needs more time and more weapo.. wait. Yes apparently having both of these WRs healthy is what will "fix" Sam Darnold. Meanwhile a lot of these same jagaloons were saying Perriman and Mims were busts for half the season. Overnight, these 2 are suddenly good receivers. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pointman 4,570 #12 Posted November 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yes apparently having both of these WRs healthy is what will "fix" Sam Darnold. Meanwhile a lot of these same jagaloons were saying Perriman and Mims were busts for half the season. Overnight, these 2 are suddenly good receivers. Hot damn. Me ^ 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 119,804 #13 Posted November 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, pointman said: Hot damn. Me ^ I actually don't think the word was applicable to what I was saying but I enjoy it too much not to use it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTJet 5,200 #14 Posted November 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: So suddenly Darnold will be able to throw an accurate deep ball when both are healthy? Not neccesarily, but every tiny thing matters during an NFL play and who is on the field matters just as much, you know this. Who's double covered, who's running which route, what plays are called, all of it. Both players in the lineup and healthy at the same time open up the playbook and most likely do wonders for the QBs decision making process, who he can trust, etc. Not to mention, the time to build a rapport with anyone. At this point, it's almost comical that anytime Darnold sees the field, he has nothing... and I mean NOTHING around him. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTJet 5,200 #15 Posted November 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yes apparently having both of these WRs healthy is what will "fix" Sam Darnold. Meanwhile a lot of these same jagaloons were saying Perriman and Mims were busts for half the season. Overnight, these 2 are suddenly good receivers. Then what would it hurt to see Darnold play 3 straight games with both guys healthy and playing? I for one would like to at least see it happen for a couple games so I can know for sure. As it stands, we havent had that chance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pointman 4,570 #16 Posted November 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I actually don't think the word was applicable to what I was saying but I enjoy it too much not to use it. I've never heard it before and had to Google it. It seems you used it perfectly. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pointman 4,570 #17 Posted November 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, JTJet said: Then what would it hurt to see Darnold play 3 straight games with both guys healthy and playing? I for one would like to at least see it happen for a couple games so I can know for sure. As it stands, we havent had that chance. It won't hurt. I'd like to see it too. It hopefully improves his trade stock, and gives us a better opportunity to lose more games. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genot 1,825 #18 Posted November 25, 2020 What boneheads. Its like the QB is by himself on a deserted island,throwing a football. The Bills and Chiefs have are much better at football than the Patriots and Chargers. Now,the team your playing isn't relevant. Okay. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waka Flocka Flacco 529 #19 Posted November 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, JTJet said: Then what would it hurt to see Darnold play 3 straight games with both guys healthy and playing? My eyeballs. His trade value. Your feelings. 3 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgb 27,747 #20 Posted November 25, 2020 QBs make their own weapons not the other way around 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoJoTownsell1 10,957 #21 Posted November 25, 2020 49 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: So suddenly Darnold will be able to throw an accurate deep ball when both are healthy? I think your sample size is likely a bigger problem.. Not to mention the yards per target for Mims is almost identical and it was also Mims first two games of his career. I would like to think he has/will continue to get better as he plays more games. I'm not even a fan of Darnold anymore and want to lose every game for Lawrence but flacco got 4 games. Had more offensive weapons that Darnold ever had and still went 0-4 with a couple of huge Ints. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTJet 5,200 #22 Posted November 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said: My eyeballs. His trade value. Your feelings. Spoken like someone who knows nothing. Truly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 119,804 #23 Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, genot said: What boneheads. Its like the QB is by himself on a deserted island,throwing a football. The Bills and Chiefs have are much better at football than the Patriots and Chargers. Now,the team your playing isn't relevant. Okay. That's right. I forgot we only count the games where Darnold plays weak defenses in these parts. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 119,804 #24 Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: I think your sample size is likely a bigger problem.. Not to mention the yards per target for Mims is almost identical and it was also Mims first two games of his career. I would like to think he has/will continue to get better as he plays more games. I'm not even a fan of Darnold anymore and want to lose every game for Lawrence but flacco got 4 games. Had more offensive weapons that Darnold ever had and still went 0-4 with a couple of huge Ints. Yet when we bring up Darnold's 32 game sample size, Darnoldbros decide to use that opportunity to remind people of the final 8 games of last season. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgb 27,747 #25 Posted November 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yet when we bring up Darnold's 32 game sample size, Darnoldbros decide to use that opportunity to remind people of the final 8 games of last season. And even then focus on 8 passes in those 8 games 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genot 1,825 #26 Posted November 25, 2020 12 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: That's right. I forgot we only count the games where Darnold plays weak defenses in these parts. We'll get you wearing that #14 jersey soon enough Mr Jetsfan80 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rangerous 3,924 #27 Posted November 25, 2020 15 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: So suddenly Darnold will be able to throw an accurate deep ball when both are healthy? Maybe it darnold was healthy. He may say his shoulder is fine but IMO it’s one of those injuries that just don’t get better quickly. Especially if he continues to use it so much. I’m not saying he has a better deep ball than Flacco. Few QBs do even at this stage in his career but darnold if healthy and has time is good enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost420 786 #28 Posted November 25, 2020 Perriman as a deep threat is worthless with Darnold under center because he can't throw the ball deep. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RutgersJetFan 93,047 #29 Posted November 25, 2020 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UntouchableCrew 5,909 #30 Posted November 25, 2020 16 hours ago, JTJet said: Extremely misleading. Mims two games didnt have Perriman. Perrimans two games didnt have Mims. That makes a difference. This. I'm not a Darnold defender but I do think if you're gonna tout stats like that Darnold deserves a chance to actually play with all three of the starting WRs. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CTJetsFan 1,621 #31 Posted November 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: This. I'm not a Darnold defender but I do think if you're gonna tout stats like that Darnold deserves a chance to actually play with all three of the starting WRs. +1. The offense has had Crowder, Mims & Perriman on the field the last 2 weeks for the first time. Offense scores 20+ points. Coincidence? I think not. Does it have to do with Flacoo AND the "3 dudes" being on the field together? We'll find out this week. Doesn't mean the Jets will win with Sam back because the defense is a disaster (specifically, the secondary), but I do expect the offense to come close to the output put up by Flacco the last 2 games with Darnold at the helm. Only X factor is we don't know how bad his shoulder really is. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 119,804 #32 Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, genot said: We'll get you wearing that #14 jersey soon enough Mr Jetsfan80 I'll never buy a "current Jet" jersey again after getting burned by Vilma, Revis and Sanchez. A Chrebet jersey is all I'll need for some time. Especially since I don't really wear jerseys anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 119,804 #33 Posted November 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, CTJetsFan said: +1. The offense has had Crowder, Mims & Perriman on the field the last 2 weeks for the first time. Offense scores 20+ points. Coincidence? I think not. Does it have to do with Flacoo AND the "3 dudes" being on the field together? We'll find out this week. Doesn't mean the Jets will win with Sam back because the defense is a disaster (specifically, the secondary), but I do expect the offense to come close to the output put up by Flacco the last 2 games with Darnold at the helm. Only X factor is we don't know how bad his shoulder really is. Maybe if Darnold would get rid of the ball rather than take an unnecessary sack, and also wasn't such a soft b*tch, he'd have already had the chance to play with all 3 WRs together. Darnold not being on the field has been no one's fault but his own. Meanwhile, Flacco is the only Jet QB to put together a decent game this season to date. Assuming Darnold plays poorly again the next time he sees the field (a pretty safe bet), people will be utilizing other excuses for him, I'm sure of it. The Offensive Line being the primary go-to. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LIJetsFan 2,591 #34 Posted November 25, 2020 16 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: I actually don't think the word was applicable to what I was saying but I enjoy it too much not to use it. It's a very cool word. Thanks for gifting my vocabulary. I just love the English language. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gastineau Lives 9,989 #35 Posted November 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I'll never buy a "current Jet" jersey again after getting burned by Vilma, Revis and Sanchez. A Chrebet jersey is all I'll need for some time. Especially since I don't really wear jerseys anymore. Dude, I can't get a refund. WTF? I'm sorry, it's already on it's way. Wear it in good health. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites