Popular Post section314 Posted November 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2020 Good segment. Lots of interesting stuff. Two main Jets points. 1) says now Gase is openly lying to everyone about this play calling stuff, and that's the last straw. Has never identified with this organization or the fan base, time to go. Said there would be cars parked a mile long with people willing to help him move. 2) Said Jets job is a good one, and debunked the idea that Woody is a problem with potentially getting a good coach. Said all Woody wants to do is win, and will give you every resource to do so. Also said that Woody never interfered with any coaching decisions. Other points 1) not a big Arians fan....thinks Tom should be running the offense. You don't bring him in there to run something new. Said look what Denver did when Peyton went there, they turned over the whole thing to him, and said they were even able to overcome Gase being there. Great line. 2) Loves the Titans, thinks have have real shot to go to the Bowl. 3) Bart asked him if he would be afraid to take the Detroit job if it were offered and he said no.....any coach that is confident and believes in himself would never be afraid of any job. He so wants to coach again. 13 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post THE BARON Posted November 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, section314 said: Good segment. Lots of interesting stuff. Two main Jets points. 1) says now Gase is openly lying to everyone about this play calling stuff, and that's the last straw. Has never identified with this organization or the fan base, time to go. Said there would be cars parked a mile long with people willing to help him move. 2) Said Jets job is a good one, and debunked the idea that Woody is a problem with potentially getting a good coach. Said all Woody wants to do is win, and will give you every resource to do so. Also said that Woody never interfered with any coaching decisions. Other points 1) not a big Arians fan....thinks Tom should be running the offense. You don't bring him in there to run something new. Said look what Denver did when Peyton went there, they turned over the whole thing to him, and said they were even able to overcome Gase being there. Great line. 2) Loves the Titans, thinks have have real shot to go to the Bowl. 3) Bart asked him if he would be afraid to take the Detroit job if it were offered and he said no.....any coach that is confident and believes in himself would never be afraid of any job. He so wants to coach again. One thing Rex and the media are wrong about. Bruce Arians is not the problem. It is Brady. He has them over a barrel. Arians DOES NOT really want to trow long balls all over the place and throw outside the numbers. Those plays that have resulted in Brady turnovers are ALL BRADY. The media pundits and fans are blaming Arians, but they don't realize Brady's ego is call those plays. Brady wants them so he can prove he can do it. Arians has to go along to some extent because they promised Brady he could do that stuff... Arians is just taking the heat like the good man he is. It is all Brady and his ego insisting on those pass patterns. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Heard that too. Bart also mentioned the Alex Lewis stuff has nothing to do with Gase and everything is fine. I know we all hate Gase, but he mentioned as well the johnsons are amazing to work for and that the organization is nothing but accommodating. They’re great to work for. So..there’s that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UntouchableCrew Posted November 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, THE BARON said: Arians DOES NOT really want to trow long balls all over the place and throw outside the numbers. What makes you say that? He's literally done that with every QB he's ever had across multiple teams. 17 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted November 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2020 I miss Rex Ryan. 16 2 1 6 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, JiF said: I miss Rex Ryan. Felt the same way listening to him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: What makes you say that? He's literally done that with every QB he's ever had across multiple teams. I am not sure whether Brady is more concerned about winning games or passing Brees on the all time passing yards list. I wonder if Arians is having the same concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UntouchableCrew Posted November 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, nycdan said: I am not sure whether Brady is more concerned about winning games or passing Brees on the all time passing yards list. I wonder if Arians is having the same concern. Brady is most definitely concerned with winning games. Have you been following the NFL for the last 20 years? 4 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 47 minutes ago, THE BARON said: One thing Rex and the media are wrong about. Bruce Arians is not the problem. It is Brady. He has them over a barrel. Arians DOES NOT really want to trow long balls all over the place and throw outside the numbers. Those plays that have resulted in Brady turnovers are ALL BRADY. The media pundits and fans are blaming Arians, but they don't realize Brady's ego is call those plays. Brady wants them so he can prove he can do it. Arians has to go along to some extent because they promised Brady he could do that stuff... Arians is just taking the heat like the good man he is. It is all Brady and his ego insisting on those pass patterns. stopped reading at BA doesnt want to throw the long ball. that is his motto! that being said, defenses should be more susceptible to the run in fear of giving up the long ball. Doesnt seem to happening.... yet... this offense is a work in progress. by the time the playoffs roll around they should be hitting on all cylinders. Brady didnt go to tampa to compete with breez for all time passing record. he came to tampa for a chip, plain and simple. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 52 minutes ago, THE BARON said: One thing Rex and the media are wrong about. Bruce Arians is not the problem. It is Brady. He has them over a barrel. Arians DOES NOT really want to trow long balls all over the place and throw outside the numbers. Those plays that have resulted in Brady turnovers are ALL BRADY. The media pundits and fans are blaming Arians, but they don't realize Brady's ego is call those plays. Brady wants them so he can prove he can do it. Arians has to go along to some extent because they promised Brady he could do that stuff... Arians is just taking the heat like the good man he is. It is all Brady and his ego insisting on those pass patterns. Bruce is the problem-it is his offense. almost every QB that plays for him has massive amounts of ints 4 of them threw over 20 ints-as a rookie Peyton through 28 under the Arians system Brady is the goat with rings Is he the same brady from 10 years back no but lots of the ints he has been throwing are not on him but his wrs and the "system" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 44 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: What makes you say that? He's literally done that with every QB he's ever had across multiple teams. Insight on both Brady and Arians. Arians is not foolish or stubborn enough to misuse Brady. However, Brady is driven to prove his arm and not BB's are what won multiple Super Bowls. Arians is getting wrongfully roasted in the media for offensive design and play selection that is poorly matched for Brady's skill set. What Arians and the Bucks brass are culpable of is letting Brady write his own checks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, THE BARON said: Insight on both Brady and Arians. Arians is not foolish or stubborn enough to misuse Brady. However, Brady is driven to prove his arm and not BB's are what won multiple Super Bowls. Arians is getting wrongfully roasted in the media for offensive design and play selection that is poorly matched for Brady's skill set. What Arians and the Bucks brass are culpable of is letting Brady write his own checks. I don't really see any evidence to suggest this is accurate given Arians has coached all his QBs the same (and they always push the ball down field, always throw outside the sticks, and always throw picks) but to each their own. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Rex is just as flawed as Woody 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KRL Posted November 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2020 If we hire a college HC to replace Gase (Campbell, Fitzgerald, Riley) I wouldn't mind having Ryan come back as the DC 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addage Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, THE BARON said: Insight on both Brady and Arians. Arians is not foolish or stubborn enough to misuse Brady. However, Brady is driven to prove his arm and not BB's are what won multiple Super Bowls. Arians is getting wrongfully roasted in the media for offensive design and play selection that is poorly matched for Brady's skill set. What Arians and the Bucks brass are culpable of is letting Brady write his own checks. Take the criticism with a grain of salt. Media are 75-80% entertainment. There are some good analysts out there but they are niche players in the overall media circus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DepressedJetsFan23 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 43 minutes ago, nycdan said: I am not sure whether Brady is more concerned about winning games or passing Brees on the all time passing yards list. I wonder if Arians is having the same concern. I don't know if it is about the passing yards, but I think his ego has a lot to do with it. Probably tired of hearing about how he can not throw deep ball, all he did in NE was throw dump off passes, etc.. Then pushing throwing the deep ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, whodeawhodat said: stopped reading at BA doesnt want to throw the long ball. that is his motto! that being said, defenses should be more susceptible to the run in fear of giving up the long ball. Doesnt seem to happening.... yet... this offense is a work in progress. by the time the playoffs roll around they should be hitting on all cylinders. Brady didnt go to tampa to compete with breez for all time passing record. he came to tampa for a chip, plain and simple. Agree that in the past he shows affinity for chunk plays through the air, but this time it aint him. Brady went to Tampa to be on a team that promised him multiple talented receiving targets and the chance to let if fly, so he can show us all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, addage said: Take the criticism with a grain of salt. Media are 75-80% entertainment. There are some good analysts out there but they are niche players in the overall media circus. yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post THE BARON Posted November 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, KRL said: If we hire a college HC to replace Gase (Campbell, Fitzgerald, Riley) I wouldn't mind having Ryan come back as the DC I would take Rex as the DC in a heartbeat. I would take him as the HC too so long as there was a top notch OC that Rex could not mess with and more importantly, Joe Douglas makes ALL the player decisions and leaves nothing up to Rex. Rex can coach, entertain and inspire, but he is total disaster if left to run, or more to the point ruin the roster 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Rex calling out someone for lying . Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, THE BARON said: Agree that in the past he shows affinity for chunk plays through the air, but this time it aint him. Brady went to Tampa to be on a team that promised him multiple talented receiving targets and the chance to let if fly, so he can show us all. “This is BA’s offense and it will always be BA’s offense,” a longtime NFL assistant close to Arians said via La Canfora. “He is who he is, and they do what they do. No risk it, no biscuit. Drop it back and let it go. At this stage of his career, I don’t see that changing for anyone — not even Tom Brady.” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 42 minutes ago, KRL said: If we hire a college HC to replace Gase (Campbell, Fitzgerald, Riley) I wouldn't mind having Ryan come back as the DC I'd love it too but it's not happening. Not at the Jets at least. Rex views the Jets HC job as forever his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 46 minutes ago, KRL said: If we hire a college HC to replace Gase (Campbell, Fitzgerald, Riley) I wouldn't mind having Ryan come back as the DC All he would want to do is push to be the head coach again. If he is such a hot commodity, why has no other team given him a job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, THE BARON said: One thing Rex and the media are wrong about. Bruce Arians is not the problem. It is Brady. He has them over a barrel. Arians DOES NOT really want to trow long balls all over the place and throw outside the numbers. Those plays that have resulted in Brady turnovers are ALL BRADY. The media pundits and fans are blaming Arians, but they don't realize Brady's ego is call those plays. Brady wants them so he can prove he can do it. Arians has to go along to some extent because they promised Brady he could do that stuff... Arians is just taking the heat like the good man he is. It is all Brady and his ego insisting on those pass patterns. Maybe but what choice do they have??? Without Brady they are 4-7 not 7-4 as of before last night IMO but I hear you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 52 minutes ago, jetscrazey said: Rex is just as flawed as Woody Id like to see REX go to a new team.. see if he has learned anything. I doubt it BUT would like to see him coach again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted November 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, JiF said: I miss Rex Ryan. We ban @joewilly12 but keep this spam-machine. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, THE BARON said: One thing Rex and the media are wrong about. Bruce Arians is not the problem. It is Brady. He has them over a barrel. Arians DOES NOT really want to trow long balls all over the place and throw outside the numbers. Those plays that have resulted in Brady turnovers are ALL BRADY. The media pundits and fans are blaming Arians, but they don't realize Brady's ego is call those plays. Brady wants them so he can prove he can do it. Arians has to go along to some extent because they promised Brady he could do that stuff... Arians is just taking the heat like the good man he is. It is all Brady and his ego insisting on those pass patterns. Boy this sounds alot like Mangini and Favre in 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 34 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: Id like to see REX go to a new team.. see if he has learned anything. I doubt it BUT would like to see him coach again. He couldn't even get an interview at the U of Miami after expressing interest in the job. No one wants him as a HC. Maybe he'd have a chance at getting a DC job somewhere. Maybe. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, shawn306 said: Boy this sounds alot like Mangini and Favre in 2008 Favre was doing very good for Mangini and Schotty Jr. He knew more offense than both of them. While Favre's arm was still working, the offense was off the hook. In that case, it was smart for Mangini and Schotty to let Favre run the show on offense. In the case of Brady and Arians, not so. Intervention is needed. It gets real simple from here. Either they run the offense that Brady is suited for, or they keep giving away games they should and could win. Brady needs static pocket with multiple pass options built into the play. No line shifts or miss direction. From that point, he makes his pre-snap read, picks the best place to go, calls it and delivers the ball with perfect timing and perfect ball placement. Ideal pass plays within that shell include slants, hitches, bunch formation, screen, bubble screen, slugo etc. No bombs, nothing deep and outside the numbers. Couple that with basic smash mouth straight ahead running and they will do just fine. If they try static pocket on passing plays and go with line shift and miss direction on running plays, the defenders will crash every gap the very moment they see the line move lateral. You cant go bombs away with Tommy boy. Wont work. Trade with the Jets for Joe Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: He couldn't even get an interview at the U of Miami after expressing interest in the job. No one wants him as a HC. Maybe he'd have a chance at getting a DC job somewhere. Maybe. Yeah... His mouth and often immature nature is a turn off to many... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, THE BARON said: Yeah... His mouth and often immature nature is a turn off to many... He's also a snake who throws people under the bus constantly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 40 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: Maybe but what choice do they have??? Without Brady they are 4-7 not 7-4 as of before last night IMO but I hear you. They can wise up. That means collectively wising up. Both Arians and Tommy boy. Run the offense Brady is good at, or keep losing despite being loaded with weapons and also having an aggressive and capable defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: He's also a snake who throws people under the bus constantly. ??? Who'd he lay out ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I actually think Rex could be a good college coach and I am a harsh Rex critic as far as his time with jets is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, THE BARON said: ??? Who'd he lay out ??? Mike Tannenbaum. Greg Roman (in Buffalo). One could also argue Brian Schottenheimer, who was not fired but simply "not retained". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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