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Heard that too. Bart also mentioned the Alex Lewis stuff has nothing to do with Gase and everything is fine. 
I know we all hate Gase, but he mentioned as well the johnsons are amazing to work for and that the organization is nothing but accommodating. They’re great to work for. So..there’s that. 

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11 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

What makes you say that? He's literally done that with every QB he's ever had across multiple teams.

I am not sure whether Brady is more concerned about winning games or passing Brees on the all time passing yards list.  I wonder if Arians is having the same concern.

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47 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

One thing Rex and the media are wrong about.  Bruce Arians is not the problem.  It is Brady.  He has them over a barrel.  Arians DOES NOT really want to trow long balls all over the place and throw outside the numbers.  Those plays that have resulted in Brady turnovers are ALL BRADY.  The media pundits and fans are blaming Arians, but they don't realize Brady's ego is call those plays.  Brady wants them so he can prove he can do it.  Arians has to go along to some extent because they promised Brady he could do that stuff...

Arians is just taking the heat like the good man he is.  

It is all Brady and his ego insisting on those pass patterns. 

 

stopped reading at BA doesnt want to throw the long ball.  that is his motto! that being said, defenses should be more susceptible to the run in fear of giving up the long ball.  Doesnt seem to happening.... yet...  this offense is a work in progress.  by the time the playoffs roll around they should be hitting on all cylinders.  Brady didnt go to tampa to compete with breez for all time passing record.  he came to tampa for a chip, plain and simple.

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52 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

One thing Rex and the media are wrong about.  Bruce Arians is not the problem.  It is Brady.  He has them over a barrel.  Arians DOES NOT really want to trow long balls all over the place and throw outside the numbers.  Those plays that have resulted in Brady turnovers are ALL BRADY.  The media pundits and fans are blaming Arians, but they don't realize Brady's ego is call those plays.  Brady wants them so he can prove he can do it.  Arians has to go along to some extent because they promised Brady he could do that stuff...

Arians is just taking the heat like the good man he is.  

It is all Brady and his ego insisting on those pass patterns. 

 

Bruce is the problem-it is his offense.

almost every QB that plays for him has massive amounts of ints

4 of them threw over 20 ints-as a rookie Peyton through 28 under the Arians system

Brady is the goat with rings

Is he the same brady from 10 years back no but lots of the ints he has been throwing are not on him but his wrs and the "system"

 

 

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44 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

What makes you say that? He's literally done that with every QB he's ever had across multiple teams.

Insight on both Brady and Arians.  Arians is not foolish or stubborn enough to misuse Brady.  However, Brady is driven to prove his arm and not BB's are what won multiple Super Bowls.  Arians is getting wrongfully roasted in the media for offensive design and play selection that is poorly matched for Brady's skill set.   What Arians and the Bucks brass are culpable of is letting Brady write his own checks.  

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3 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

Insight on both Brady and Arians.  Arians is not foolish or stubborn enough to misuse Brady.  However, Brady is driven to prove his arm and not BB's are what won multiple Super Bowls.  Arians is getting wrongfully roasted in the media for offensive design and play selection that is poorly matched for Brady's skill set.   What Arians and the Bucks brass are culpable of is letting Brady write his own checks.  

Take the criticism with a grain of salt. Media are 75-80% entertainment.  There are some good analysts out there but they are niche players in the overall media circus. 

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43 minutes ago, nycdan said:

I am not sure whether Brady is more concerned about winning games or passing Brees on the all time passing yards list.  I wonder if Arians is having the same concern.

I don't know if it is about the passing yards, but I think his ego has a lot to do with it. Probably tired of hearing about how he can not throw deep ball, all he did in NE was throw dump off passes, etc.. Then pushing throwing the deep ball. 

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39 minutes ago, whodeawhodat said:

stopped reading at BA doesnt want to throw the long ball.  that is his motto! that being said, defenses should be more susceptible to the run in fear of giving up the long ball.  Doesnt seem to happening.... yet...  this offense is a work in progress.  by the time the playoffs roll around they should be hitting on all cylinders.  Brady didnt go to tampa to compete with breez for all time passing record.  he came to tampa for a chip, plain and simple.

Agree that in the past he shows affinity for chunk plays through the air, but this time it aint him.  Brady went to Tampa to be on a team that promised him multiple talented receiving targets and the chance to let if fly, so he can show us all. 

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27 minutes ago, addage said:

Take the criticism with a grain of salt. Media are 75-80% entertainment.  There are some good analysts out there but they are niche players in the overall media circus. 

yep.  

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13 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

Agree that in the past he shows affinity for chunk plays through the air, but this time it aint him.  Brady went to Tampa to be on a team that promised him multiple talented receiving targets and the chance to let if fly, so he can show us all. 

“This is BA’s offense and it will always be BA’s offense,” a longtime NFL assistant close to Arians said via La Canfora. “He is who he is, and they do what they do. No risk it, no biscuit. Drop it back and let it go. At this stage of his career, I don’t see that changing for anyone — not even Tom Brady.”

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42 minutes ago, KRL said:

If we hire a college HC to replace Gase (Campbell, Fitzgerald, Riley) I wouldn't
mind having Ryan come back as the DC

I'd love it too but it's not happening.  Not at the Jets at least.  Rex views the Jets HC job as forever his.

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46 minutes ago, KRL said:

If we hire a college HC to replace Gase (Campbell, Fitzgerald, Riley) I wouldn't
mind having Ryan come back as the DC

All he would want to do is push to be the head coach again.

If he is such a hot commodity, why has no other team given him a job?

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1 hour ago, THE BARON said:

One thing Rex and the media are wrong about.  Bruce Arians is not the problem.  It is Brady.  He has them over a barrel.  Arians DOES NOT really want to trow long balls all over the place and throw outside the numbers.  Those plays that have resulted in Brady turnovers are ALL BRADY.  The media pundits and fans are blaming Arians, but they don't realize Brady's ego is call those plays.  Brady wants them so he can prove he can do it.  Arians has to go along to some extent because they promised Brady he could do that stuff...

Arians is just taking the heat like the good man he is.  

It is all Brady and his ego insisting on those pass patterns. 

 

Maybe but what choice do they have???   Without Brady they are 4-7 not 7-4 as of before last night IMO but I hear you.  

 

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52 minutes ago, jetscrazey said:

Rex is just as flawed as Woody

Id like to see REX go to a new team.. see if he has learned anything.  I doubt it BUT would like to see him coach again.

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2 hours ago, THE BARON said:

One thing Rex and the media are wrong about.  Bruce Arians is not the problem.  It is Brady.  He has them over a barrel.  Arians DOES NOT really want to trow long balls all over the place and throw outside the numbers.  Those plays that have resulted in Brady turnovers are ALL BRADY.  The media pundits and fans are blaming Arians, but they don't realize Brady's ego is call those plays.  Brady wants them so he can prove he can do it.  Arians has to go along to some extent because they promised Brady he could do that stuff...

Arians is just taking the heat like the good man he is.  

It is all Brady and his ego insisting on those pass patterns. 

 

Boy this sounds alot like Mangini and Favre in 2008

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34 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

Id like to see REX go to a new team.. see if he has learned anything.  I doubt it BUT would like to see him coach again.

He couldn't even get an interview at the U of Miami after expressing interest in the job.

No one wants him as a HC.  Maybe he'd have a chance at getting a DC job somewhere.  Maybe.

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27 minutes ago, shawn306 said:

Boy this sounds alot like Mangini and Favre in 2008

Favre was doing very good for Mangini and Schotty Jr.  He knew more offense than both of them.  While Favre's arm was still working, the offense was off the hook.  In that case, it was smart for Mangini and Schotty to let Favre run the show on offense.  

In the case of Brady and Arians, not so.   Intervention is needed. 

It gets real simple from here.  Either they run the offense that Brady is suited for, or they keep giving away games they should and could win.

Brady needs static pocket with multiple pass options built into the play.  No line shifts or miss direction. From that point, he makes his pre-snap read, picks the best place to go, calls it and delivers the ball with perfect timing and perfect ball placement. Ideal pass plays within that shell include slants, hitches, bunch formation, screen, bubble screen, slugo etc.  No bombs, nothing deep and outside the numbers.  Couple that with basic smash mouth straight ahead running and they will do just fine.  If they try static pocket on passing plays and go with line shift and miss direction on running plays, the defenders will crash every gap the very moment they see the line move lateral.

You cant go bombs away with Tommy boy.  Wont work.  Trade with the Jets for Joe Cool.

 

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3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

He couldn't even get an interview at the U of Miami after expressing interest in the job.

No one wants him as a HC.  Maybe he'd have a chance at getting a DC job somewhere.  Maybe.

Yeah... His mouth and often immature nature is a turn off to many... 

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1 minute ago, THE BARON said:

Yeah... His mouth and often immature nature is a turn off to many... 

He's also a snake who throws people under the bus constantly.  

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40 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

Maybe but what choice do they have???   Without Brady they are 4-7 not 7-4 as of before last night IMO but I hear you.  

 

They can wise up.  That means collectively wising up.  Both Arians and Tommy boy.  Run the offense Brady is good at, or keep losing despite being loaded with weapons and also having an aggressive and capable defense.  

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Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

He's also a snake who throws people under the bus constantly.  

??? Who'd he lay out ???

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I actually think Rex could be a good college coach and I am a harsh Rex critic as far as his time with jets is concerned.

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Just now, THE BARON said:

??? Who'd he lay out ???

Mike Tannenbaum.  Greg Roman (in Buffalo). 

One could also argue Brian Schottenheimer, who was not fired but simply "not retained".  

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