BCJet Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Watching how often Russel Wilson goes to DK Metcalf last night really makes me thing that Mims can be an elite player. He isnt going to be a speed player like in the mold of Tyreke Hill (Ruggs) or a savvy route runner like Judy, but his ability to make contested catches is more important then route running in todays game. Yea, there are guys like Antonion Brown who can beat a defender off the line with route running ability, but a good WR is gonna draw a top corner and you have to be able to make catches when you are covered if you want to be elite. DK made a couple catches last night when he was blanketed because hes strong and physical at the catch point, which is exactly what Mims excels at. Here are both their measurements along with Justin Jefferson who is playing the best of all the rookies. Metcalf 6'4 229 4.33 40.5 Vertical 27 bench reps 7.38 3 cone and 34.88 inch arms Mims 6'3 209 4.38 38.5 Vertical 16 bench reps 6.66 3 cone and 33.88 inch arms Jefferson 6'1 202 4.43 37.5 Vertical didnt bench no 3 cone and 33 inch arms DK is a physical freak (and also somehow younger then Mims), but Mims compares closely enough to him to be able to be someone that an aggressive coach/QB attack when they have single coverage and either draw a penalty or make a big play. Putting Crowder and someone like JuJu in the underneath roles and letting Mims get downfield should allow the offense to make a substantial leap once we have a competent coach and QB who knows where to go with the ball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I honestly see Mims as a slightly less version of prime A.J. green if he improves his route running 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ryu79 Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2020 Mimsatron! 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 not quite the big body.... but i get where ya goin... Mims seems to be the real deal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2020 - I like Mims - I was very happy we got him where we did in the draft. - Early indications are really good. - Some of these early comparisons are way way way over the top. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2UlSQDOaqE 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Mims reminds me a little of Plaxico 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JTJet Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2020 This comparison can take off the green tinted glasses and stop right here... 1 1 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, JTJet said: This comparison can take off the green tinted glasses and stop right here... Yeah you would think having a rookie wideout to see the field and catch the football would be enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Defense Wins Championships Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2020 Not a fair comparison. D.K Metcalf is blessed with a future HOF QB in Russell Wilson who opposing defenses have to focus on first and foremost. While Denzel Mims is stuck with an old statue in Joe Flacco and an absolute NFL bust in Sam Darnold... NCAA Stats: Denzel Mims: 40 games. 186 receptions (4.65 catches per game), 2,925 receiving yards (73.1 receiving yards per game), 15.7 yards per catch and 28 TD receptions (0.7 TD receptions per game). D.K Metcalf: 21 games. 67 receptions (3.19 catches per game), 1,228 receiving yards (58.4 receiving yards per game), 18.3 yards pee catch and 14 TD receptions (0.6 TD receptions per game). So is it that D.K Metcalf is really "better' than Denzel Mims or is it that D.K Metcalf has RUSSELL WILSON and Denzel Mims doesn't? Their first 5 NFL games: Denzel Mims: 17 receptions, 284 receiving yards and 0 TD's (catch rate of 51.5%). D.K Metcalf: 12 receptions, 267 receiving yards and 2 TD receptions (catch rate of 46.2%). Reverse and switch up the tables and put Denzel Mims with Russell Wilson over the past two years and stick Metcalf alongside both Flacco/Darnold throughout his first 5 NFL games and I guarantee you that Denzel Mims would blow D.K Metcalf out the waters under these circumstances... 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 44 minutes ago, BCJet said: Watching how often Russel Wilson goes to DK Metcalf last night really makes me thing that Mims can be an elite player. He isnt going to be a speed player like in the mold of Tyreke Hill (Ruggs) or a savvy route runner like Judy, but his ability to make contested catches is more important then route running in todays game. Yea, there are guys like Antonion Brown who can beat a defender off the line with route running ability, but a good WR is gonna draw a top corner and you have to be able to make catches when you are covered if you want to be elite. DK made a couple catches last night when he was blanketed because hes strong and physical at the catch point, which is exactly what Mims excels at. Here are both their measurements along with Justin Jefferson who is playing the best of all the rookies. Metcalf 6'4 229 4.33 40.5 Vertical 27 bench reps 7.38 3 cone and 34.88 inch arms Mims 6'3 209 4.38 38.5 Vertical 16 bench reps 6.66 3 cone and 33.88 inch arms Jefferson 6'1 202 4.43 37.5 Vertical didnt bench no 3 cone and 33 inch arms DK is a physical freak (and also somehow younger then Mims), but Mims compares closely enough to him to be able to be someone that an aggressive coach/QB attack when they have single coverage and either draw a penalty or make a big play. Putting Crowder and someone like JuJu in the underneath roles and letting Mims get downfield should allow the offense to make a substantial leap once we have a competent coach and QB who knows where to go with the ball. 3 very very different players youre comparing with those physicals.. Only similarity between mims and metcalfs game was that they were both seen as a straight line speed big tall WR who needed route running work. The notion that route running ability is not as important in todays game i just flat out have to disagree with. Watch these games closely, the route running ability is offfffff the charts on these top guys. And heres the crazy thing... normally youd think its just the smaller guys like edleman that run these surgical routes, naaa not anymore, these big guys are getting into the mix. Jefferson already this year has flashed top notch route running ability. His second TD last week was masssssterful, literally you can teach to that film. DK to his insane credit has so significantly improved his route running you wouldnt believe he was the same player you saw coming out of Ole Miss. The difference with the bigger faster guys like him is that he probably takes an extra step coming out of his breaks because of his size and the force he's applying to the route, but even with that his break point and set up of routes is so vastly improved its one of the main reasons if not the number 1 reason he's having the season he is having. Mims has a chance to be really really good, he's gotta bulk up a little bit and work on his route running which he's behind the 8 ball a little bit because of the hammy issues this year. Already though you see he's improved in some areas of the game that he was critisized coming out on, Break points are slightly better, still needs work on his hip drop, and his release moves have been effective so far even if he needs to improve its much better than I saw at baylor. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jeremy2020 Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2020 oh...geez. Guys...c'mon. Dude's played in a handful of games and we're doing this? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GREENBEAN Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2020 Mims was one of my favorite players in the draft. I was pissed we traded back at 48. The fact that we got him at 59 is miraculous. JD is amazing and Mims is a stud. it will be fun to watch his career. 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 very very different players youre comparing with those physicals.. Only similarity between mims and metcalfs game was that they were both seen as a straight line speed big tall WR who needed route running work. The notion that route running ability is not as important in todays game i just flat out have to disagree with. Watch these games closely, the route running ability is offfffff the charts on these top guys. And heres the crazy thing... normally youd think its just the smaller guys like edleman that run these surgical routes, naaa not anymore, these big guys are getting into the mix. Jefferson already this year has flashed top notch route running ability. His second TD last week was masssssterful, literally you can teach to that film. DK to his insane credit has so significantly improved his route running you wouldnt believe he was the same player you saw coming out of Ole Miss. The difference with the bigger faster guys like him is that he probably takes an extra step coming out of his breaks because of his size and the force he's applying to the route, but even with that his break point and set up of routes is so vastly improved its one of the main reasons if not the number 1 reason he's having the season he is having. Mims has a chance to be really really good, he's gotta bulk up a little bit and work on his route running which he's behind the 8 ball a little bit because of the hammy issues this year. Already though you see he's improved in some areas of the game that he was critisized coming out on, Break points are slightly better, still needs work on his hip drop, and his release moves have been effective so far even if he needs to improve its much better than I saw at baylor. I think DK is a more imposing player than Mims (who is very physical in his own right), but Mims is WAY more agile than Metcalf. Metcalf got knocked for a poor 3 come while Mims had 1 of (if not the top) 3 cones in last year’s combine. Mims is going to be a monster next year.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, JTJet said: This comparison can take off the green tinted glasses and stop right here... Green colored glasses or is it just Football 101 comparisons? NCAA Stats: Denzel Mims: 40 games. 186 receptions (4.65 catches per game), 2,925 receiving yards (73.1 receiving yards per game), 15.7 yards per catch and 28 TD receptions (0.7 TD receptions per game). D.K Metcalf: 21 games. 67 receptions (3.19 catches per game), 1,228 receiving yards (58.4 receiving yards per game), 18.3 yards pee catch and 14 TD receptions (0.6 TD receptions per game). Their first 5 NFL games: Denzel Mims: 17 receptions, 284 receiving yards and 0 TD's (catch rate of 51.5%). D.K Metcalf: 12 receptions, 267 receiving yards and 2 TD receptions (catch rate of 46.2%). There. I just compared the two. (PS: you should really take off your Russell Wilson lime green tinted glasses)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 He should change his name to Denzel Uno Uno 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said: Green colored glasses or is it just Football 101 comparisons? NCAA Stats: Denzel Mims: 40 games. 186 receptions (4.65 catches per game), 2,925 receiving yards (73.1 receiving yards per game), 15.7 yards per catch and 28 TD receptions (0.7 TD receptions per game). D.K Metcalf: 21 games. 67 receptions (3.19 catches per game), 1,228 receiving yards (58.4 receiving yards per game), 18.3 yards pee catch and 14 TD receptions (0.6 TD receptions per game). Their first 5 NFL games: Denzel Mims: 17 receptions, 284 receiving yards and 0 TD's (catch rate of 51.5%). D.K Metcalf: 12 receptions, 267 receiving yards and 2 TD receptions (catch rate of 46.2%). There. I just compared the two. (PS: you should really take off your Russell Wilson lime green tinted glasses)... Give me a direct comparison of their entire 2020 seasons without mentioning Russell Wilson. When Mims puts up a season like Metcalf is having, we can compare more closely. I dont give two sh*ts about their college stats right now. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: Mims was one of my favorite players in the draft. I was pissed we traded back at 48. The fact that we got him at 59 is miraculous. JD is amazing and Mims is a stud. it will be fun to watch his career. “Fun to watch” yeah , last time we got to say that? I’ll take it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, maury77 said: I think DK is a more imposing player than Mims (who is very physical in his own right), but Mims is WAY more agile than Metcalf. Metcalf got knocked for a poor 3 come while Mims had 1 of (if not the top) 3 cones in last year’s combine. Mims is going to be a monster next year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Its hard to compare anyone physically to Metcalf. The dude is literally in a small percentage of the human race of ability and physicality. It's crazy to see how he's improved his route running at his size and stature. I know a ton of pro trainers that looked at him coming out and were like "he can be good, but never thought his route running would look like this". Watch the film, its crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: Mims was one of my favorite players in the draft. I was pissed we traded back at 48. The fact that we got him at 59 is miraculous. JD is amazing and Mims is a stud. it will be fun to watch his career. I wanted the Jets to grab their nuts and take DK at #3 Overall, but what do I know..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, Chrebetfan80 said: Its hard to compare anyone physically to Metcalf. The dude is literally in a small percentage of the human race of ability and physicality. It's crazy to see how he's improved his route running at his size and stature. I know a ton of pro trainers that looked at him coming out and were like "he can be good, but never thought his route running would look like this". Watch the film, its crazy. Kinda makes you wonder how bad Gase could make him. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: I wanted the Jets to grab their nuts and take DK at #3 Overall, but what do I know..... It's sad that we didn't have a 2nd round pick (thnx to Sam) because D.K was the last pick of the 2nd round... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 28 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: Mims was one of my favorite players in the draft. I was pissed we traded back at 48. The fact that we got him at 59 is miraculous. JD is amazing and Mims is a stud. it will be fun to watch his career. GB I remember you and I going back and forth over who we liked better, Claypool or Mims. It turns out we were right about both. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marshmello Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2020 A talent evaluator said Mims is faster Ashlon Jeffrey. I thought that was the best comparison so far. Metcalf is just a freak. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, oatmeal said: I honestly see Mims as a slightly less version of prime A.J. green if he improves his route running What makes you think he is bad at route running. Have you seen his senior bow 1 on 1 video? He has the highest rating ever in route running from PFF in those drills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoot-Face Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, JTJet said: This comparison can take off the green tinted glasses and stop right here... What a time for @joewilly12 to be banned. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Disagree with the Metcalf comparison. Different body types. Ceiling: A.J. Green Floor: Stephen Hill So far I am encouraged, but it's still early. Let's not get carried away. We've been fooled by a rookie with a small sample size before (Chris Herndon). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Wang Doodle Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Reminds me of a slightly bigger Chad Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZachEY Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2020 If Randy Moss and Jerry Rice had a baby and that baby was impregnated by Calvin Johnson, the grand baby would be Denzel Mims. 3 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: “Fun to watch” yeah , last time we got to say that? I’ll take it! Four and and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, upon this continent . . . For those on here not born yet or too young to witness or remember the greatness of Al Toon (he really was that good), we might be in for a potential treat. It's apples and oranges in many respects, but I'm ready for it already. Let's go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 26 minutes ago, jetophile said: Four and and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, upon this continent . . . For those on here not born yet or too young to witness or remember the greatness of Al Toon (he really was that good), we might be in for a potential treat. It's apples and oranges in many respects, but I'm ready for it already. Let's go. Yeah, that’s about how long. Yet, rather than just watch this kid go play we gotta be comparing apples to cantaloupes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 hahahahahahahahhhahahaaaaaa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcJet Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 This is so over the top. Toon was great. DK is great. Claypool is already a star. Mims hasn't done d*ck. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, dcJet said: This is so over the top. Toon was great. DK is great. Claypool is already a star. Mims hasn't done d*ck. It's amazing how many Jets fans on this forum hate on Jets rookies. It's rather pathetic. It's a COMPARISON. Do you even understand what that word means? He didn't say Mims is as good Metcalf. But it does beg to wonder how good Mims would be doing with Russell Wilson instead of Flacco/Darnold. I can't wait until we get Trevor Lawrence and he throws his first INT and people like you can start whining about him too. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, dcJet said: This is so over the top. Toon was great. DK is great. Claypool is already a star. Mims hasn't done d*ck. Yet, compare him To the wideouts drafted by the last two GMs the fact he made it on the field and has contributed is prettt nifty. Plus, he’ll be better once we are honestly trying to win games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 hours ago, oatmeal said: I honestly see Mims as a slightly less version of prime A.J. green if he improves his route running That's a good comp right there! As soon as you said it I could see it. His speed, aggressiveness towards the ball, size, etc....already there. I think if Mims can add other routes to his repertoire, can improve his fluidity and look just a little bit more like a natural pass catcher then he has everything needed to be a high-end WR1. What Mims lacks to some degree is that "art of being a WR" right now. It's hard for me to describe but you kinda know it when you see it. A guy who looks effortless and smooth in his route running, who has soft hands that almost seem to act like a vacuum cleaner for the football. Smooth, artful WRs like Larry Fitzgerald, Chris Carter, Deandre Hopkins, etc. who don't always blow you away with size/speed/athleticism (although they each have some or a lot of those things) but they're just guys who seem like born WRs. There are a couple guys in this class who I think have that.... Justin Jefferson and Jerry Jeudy, possibly others as well but those two stand out to me. Mims isn't quite that type of guy but as I said above, his size, speed and aggression towards the football are great. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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