JetBlue Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Flexibility only goes so far, and you seem to be assuming all 3 of the "2nd tier" QB prospects will be rated about the same. I doubt that will be the case. The time to be flexible is when you like a few non-premium position guys, or even a WR or EDGE rusher, about the same and thus feel comfortable one will be there when you trade down. You just don't do that with QB's. When you need a QB and have a high pick, you take your top guy, period. You don't d**k around with decisions like that. I understand your point and don't necessarily disagree. I guess I'm saying it is too soon to call it one way or the other. I get it that TL and Fields are consensus 1A and 1B but again, a lot can happen between now and the draft. I really like Lance and as a dark horse candidate but it take some serious balls to trade for him and risk some other team jumping right in front to take him. I just like the idea that for a change we a GM who thinks a little outside the box and willing to take chances, although as you mentioned, that might be too much of a risk to take considering what you might get back. All I know is if we don't get the 1st pick it is going be a very interesting debate up until the draft. The way the team played today I could actually see them sneaking out a win one last 4 games.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Just now, JetBlue said: I understand your point and don't necessarily disagree. I guess I'm saying it is too soon to call it one way or the other. I get it that TL and Fields are consensus 1A and 1B but again, a lot can happen between now and the draft. I really like Lance and as a dark horse candidate but it take some serious balls to trade for him and risk some other team jumping right in front to take him. I just like the idea that for a change we a GM who thinks a little outside the box and willing to take chances, although as you mentioned, that might be too much of a risk to take considering what you might get back. All I know is if we don't get the 1st pick it is going be a very interesting debate up until the draft. The way the team played today I could actually see them sneaking out a win one last 4 games.... @ Seattle, @ Rams, vs Browns, @ Patriots? I don't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 2 hours ago, ausman said: Certainly looked that way. All you have to do is play your D not to get best deep. That’s all. Blitzing in that situation — especially with the lack of success this D has had with it — was insane. Have to think that talk radio and the tabloids will test those waters this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: @ Seattle, @ Rams, vs Browns, @ Patriots? I don't see it. Hey I didn't see us up 4 with less than 40 seconds to go against the Raiders..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Beerfish said: Waller is going to have 12 catches for 200 yards this game I almost, exactly nailed this one, he had 13 catches and 200 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, genot said: Thanks for the grammer corrections Well done, if intentional. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 What did Adam Gase have to say in the post game presser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausman Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 hours ago, choon328 said: The zero blitz was called bc Carr struggled against it all day and he was picking the Jets apart when he had time. Yes, but time and place. Carr had 45 yards to go and 11 seconds to get it on 4th down. Better to make him check down and throw something short By rushing four and dropping your secondary into full protect mode, keeping all receivers in front of the defense. What Williams was doing was gambling with a pass rush that gets there about 20% of the time. That he man’s he had an 80% chance of getting burned. Guess what happened. No surprise or at least shouldn’t have been. His secondary was burned twice on the last Raider drive. Carr’s inability to make him pay was the difference. But given one more chance... that he never should have had... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 hours ago, genot said: Yes, i would. The offers piling in for that 1st pick will be too hard to turn down. I have nothing nice to say so I won't say anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, ausman said: Yes, but time and place. Carr had 45 yards to go and 11 seconds to get it on 4th down. Better to make him check down and throw something short By rushing four and dropping your secondary into full protect mode, keeping all receivers in front of the defense. What Williams was doing was gambling with a pass rush that gets there about 20% of the time. That he man’s he had an 80% chance of getting burned. Guess what happened. No surprise or at least shouldn’t have been. His secondary was burned twice on the last Raider drive. Carr’s inability to make him pay was the difference. But given one more chance... that he never should have had... I agree, but I could see the rationale. The bigger mistake was Jackson falling for a double move in that situation. He's supposed to keep the man in front of him on a zero blitz. There is no way you can let your man behind you in that coverage and in that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 hours ago, genot said: Yes, i would. The offers piling in for that 1st pick will be too hard to turn down. Wow. This post is....something. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausman Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, choon328 said: I agree, but I could see the rationale. The bigger mistake was Jackson falling for a double move in that situation. He's supposed to keep the man in front of him on a zero blitz. There is no way you can let your man behind you in that coverage and in that situation. I agree with that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, ausman said: Yes, but time and place. Carr had 45 yards to go and 11 seconds to get it on 4th down. Better to make him check down and throw something short By rushing four and dropping your secondary into full protect mode, keeping all receivers in front of the defense. What Williams was doing was gambling with a pass rush that gets there about 20% of the time. That he man’s he had an 80% chance of getting burned. Guess what happened. No surprise or at least shouldn’t have been. His secondary was burned twice on the last Raider drive. Carr’s inability to make him pay was the difference. But given one more chance... that he never should have had... Exactly. Situational awareness..... Not to mention he has Lamar Jackson, who not exactly a speed demon, plays too close the line. He should have been at least another 6 yards back... Terrible coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jago Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 who else here admits to have cackled like joe pesci ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 15 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: Well done, if intentional. Yes, it was. It's rip Gene time here at our wonderful forum. Sorry i hold a different view on what we should do with regards to drahft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 14 hours ago, choon328 said: I have nothing nice to say so I won't say anything Choon you can rip me. I have a thick skin. I've been ripped before. Still here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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