Vince Young Intelligence test results

[GimmeShelter]

Per PFT:

VINCE IS STOOPID?

A league source tells us that there's a rumor making the rounds at the combine that Texas quarterback Vince Young scored a miserably horrible six on the Wonderlic test.

A six! That's bad. It's beyond bad. In fact, it's the lowest score that we can ever remember hearing anyone getting.

All incoming NFL players take a 50-question version of the Wonderlic, with a 12-minute window within which to finish it.

We found 15 sample Wonderlic questions on ESPN.com's page 2, including such brain-benders as selecting the ninth month of the year from among five possible choices. We'd like to think that most people of average intelligence could get at least six of the 15 sample questions right.

Getting a total of only six out of a total of 50 questions of that same kind is pa-freakin'-thetic. For a guy who's going to be called upon to read defenses and call audibles and work through a progression of receivers against NFL-caliber opposition, it's downright scary.

The source tells us that he hasn't seen the result in writing yet, but that he's "99 percent" certain that Young's score was six.

Said the source, who knows a thing or two about evaluating college players:

"I predict he'll fall all the way out of the first round."

That's a bold statement, and we're not saying that we agree with it -- primarily because our guess is that there's someone almost dumb enough to get a six on the Wonderlic, who'll overlook Young's low score along with any other concerns that might come to light over the next two months.

CUTLER SHOWS OFF HIS PECS

We're keeping an eye on the combine coverage on the NFL Network, and we just heard that Vandy quarterback Jay Cutler cranked out 23 reps on the 225-pound bench press.

Impressive, especially since quarterbacks typically don't lift in pre-draft drills, and since he managed more reps than some of the offensive linemen.

Meanwhile, Matt Leinart was interviewed by the NFL Network on Friday, and he talked about a recent illness that caused him to "throw up everywhere."

Hey, Saints -- we think you should get your round one draft card pre-printed and laminated with Cutler's name on it.

[Maxman]

23 reps for Cutler? That is sick for a QB. SICK.

[ThunderbirdJet]

23 reps for Cutler? That is sick for a QB. SICK.

Now we begin to understand how Cutler survived behing that putrid O line at Vandy..... he can kick the crap out of the pass rushers.

[JetCane]

Oh this is interesting. I;m waiting for confirmation of the score. After hearing VY speak, I cant say I'm surprised.

[Matt39]

That's Jessica Simpson bad.

[jets rooter]

I am sure that cutler more intelligent then vince young.vanderbuilt is one of your top scholastic schools in the country.

[JetCane]

LOL@rooter.

Saying Cutler is more intelligent than VY is like saying Adrianna Lima is more attractive than Janet Reno.

[AVM]

LOL@rooter.

Saying Cutler is more intelligent than VY is like saying Adrianna Lima is more attractive than Janet Reno.

LOL

[Preston Howley III]

The problem with IQ tests is, they don't really measure your intelligence, but your ability to read and write- and of course, comprehension of the material you have just read. If you can't read and write,then the rest of it is moot.

But I'm sure there are alot of highly intelligent people who can't read and write. Unfortunately, we have no way to discern that, since these people have to take tests to measure intelligence, that require them to read and write.

Alphabets are actually quite primitive.

If you think about it.

[124]

Vince Young = DER DER DER

[Preston Howley III]

Anyway, I wouldn't dismiss somebody as being "stooopid" simply because they couldn't read and write.

For example-

If we put you on a plane, and dropped you off in Dubai, and they administered an IQ test to you in Arabic, would you be automatically stupid?

Granted, Vince Young grew up and was edumacated in USA, but still...

There can be valid reasons for not being able to read and write. And if you can't read and write in English, how the hell can you pass a test in English?

[Thor99]

If Vince is that stupid, then so is the AD of Texas.

[The Troll]

This is not all that surprising. You can tell from 5 seconds of an interview with Vince that he is a complete moron.

[bitonti]

Granted, Vince Young grew up and was edumacated in USA, but still...

There can be valid reasons for not being able to read and write. And if you can't read and write in English, how the hell can you pass a test in English?

hey moses you liberal do you think the test is cutlurally biased too?

LOL j/k bro

Vince Young isn't retarded most likely he is seriously learning disabled or yes as Moses alludes to functionally illiterate.

either way he's not learning an NFL playbook. That dude's draft stock is done.

[Barton]

I cant say I am surprised.

I think he's immature too. I said it a couple months ago and got knocked for it, but I'll be shocked if he's drafted in the top 10.

[bitonti]

maybe he just filled out "c" for every question

[Thor99]

Hey, Terry Bradshaw did okay, and he couldn't spell cat if you spotted him the c and the t.

[CluJet]

maybe he just filled out "c" for every question

Or maybe he was puzzled by the whole Name __________ thing.

Vinse Yung

[RSJ]

These tests are definitely culturally biased. Also I have taken several IQ tests and none of them resemble the Wonderlic. Th wonderlic is more like an SAT exam than an IQ test.

[CluJet]

These tests are definitely culturally biased. Also I have taken several IQ tests and none of them resemble the Wonderlic. Th wonderlic is more like an SAT exam than an IQ test.

It's not THAT hard. They mix many relatively easy questions in with harder ones. The only catch is the 12 minute time limit for the 50 questions. But even so, a six is probably the lowest score I've seen. Usually the dumb players get at least 10's.

[bitonti]

Frank Gore got a 7 and he is actually medically affected with some form of retardation.

notice how they put the 40s on the NFL network, that's good information also essential info is the wonderlic, psych, medical exams etc. Vince Young getting a 6 (or 7, or any other single digit) is literally so low as to be impossible. functionally retarded, seriously learning disabled or just plain ignorant is all putting it kindly.

[Preston Howley III]

hey moses you liberal do you think the test is cutlurally biased too?

LOL j/k bro

Vince Young isn't retarded most likely he is seriously learning disabled or yes as Moses alludes to functionally illiterate.

either way he's not learning an NFL playbook. That dude's draft stock is done.

I actually took a Wonderlic. Scored "above average". I would have scored higher if they had told me I could skip questions (the test had a time limit and there was no way you could answer all the questions in ten minutes/ I think it was the Wonderlic maybe it was something else)

[RSJ]

It's not THAT hard. They mix many relatively easy questions in with harder ones. The only catch is the 12 minute time limit for the 50 questions. But even so, a six is probably the lowest score I've seen. Usually the dumb players get at least 10's.

I'm not saying it is THAT hard but it is not all indicative of his pure intelligence. Perhaps his schools system totally sucked.

[Preston Howley III]

It's not THAT hard. They mix many relatively easy questions in with harder ones. The only catch is the 12 minute time limit for the 50 questions. But even so, a six is probably the lowest score I've seen. Usually the dumb players get at least 10's.

Yup, then I did take the Wonderlic. What pissed me off to no end, is the administrator didn't tell me I could skip questions. I guess I should have assumed it when the broad said "You won't finish it, so don't try".

[RSJ]

Frank Gore got a 7 and he is actually medically affected with some form of retardation.

notice how they put the 40s on the NFL network, that's good information also essential info is the wonderlic, psych, medical exams etc. Vince Young getting a 6 (or 7, or any other single digit) is literally so low as to be impossible. functionally retarded, seriously learning disabled or just plain ignorant is all putting it kindly.

Bit - do you have the scores from other draft eligible players?

[NIGHT STALKER]

I don't care what he scored to be honest...can he play NFL football? I wonder what Chad Pennington scored?

What I'm trying to say is, football isn't rocket science, it's a big business once you get to the pro's, but it's still that game we once played as kids. If Young can put the ball in the endzone at the end of the day, I don't think they'll be addressing what he scored on these tests 10 years from now.

[Preston Howley III]

I don't care what he scored to be honest...can he play NFL football? I wonder what Chad Pennington scored?

What I'm trying to say is, football isn't rocket science, it's a big business once you get to the pro's, but it's still that game we once played as kids. If Young can put the ball in the endzone at the end of the day, I don't think they'll be addressing what he scored on these tests 10 years from now.

Yeah, I hear ya.

[Preston Howley III]

Oh, and another thing:

You can get a pretty good idea of sombody's intelligence at the age of 4 or 5- before they have begun the process of learning to read and write.

You know which kids are not too bright, which one's are exceptionally bright, and which one's are average.

[R44]

You won't get NFL teams to release Wonderlic scores anymore R Sherry, so these are hard to come by....They used to do it regularly and fully on NFL.com, until some players with scores below 10 starting making a fuss over the public humiliation.....Miami Hurricanes have had a tendency to score real low over time.

Here are the scores of some of the Combine QB's that have taken the test since the 1980's.....Vinny Testaverde was always noted to be fairly dumb, but he still got an 18.

http://www.unc.edu/~mirabile/Wonderlic.htm

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[R44]

By the way, these are some pretty strong words regarding 49ers running back Frank Gore, who scored a 6 on the Wonderlic in 2005....This from May, 3rd, 2005 -- sf.gate.com:

In retrospect, this is pretty cold.

The Niners pick that intrigues me is Frank Gore, whose Wonderlic score was a 6 (out of 50), which I believe means he is, by definition, functionally retarded....

...I look forward to reinactions of Forrest Gump's days in Alabama where Kenny Stabler would hand it off to him and point toward the end zone and shout, "Run that way, you idiot!" and Forrest would reply "Uh ... oh-kay" before leaving a trail of SEC defenders in the dust. However, with the Niners offensive line and Gore's injury history being what it is, that scenario might not quite play out the same way. I'd still like Gore to be miked though, just in case.

[Smizzy]

Thats some throwing motion.

[GREENSMACKS]

thats why he runs so much cause he cant read a damn defense nor differentiate a square from a circle

[BigJermaineFromQnz]

Look McNabb got a 12, and he is obviously a smart guy... you can tell when he talks that he is.

I think this test has more to do with how you function under pressure and your ability to read and write.

I took a few sample questions and it was EASY AS HELL...

for example:

Complete the pattern: 8, 4, 2, 1, 1/2, 1/4, _/_

these questions are really easy, but if you cant read fast or well, or if you have a real confidence problem in your ability to read it could be a huge problem...and I dont doubt some of these guys are borderline illiterate.

[Sperm Edwards]

McNabb is not smart.

[raffyD]

McNabb is not smart.

I went to SU with DNabb, had some classes together and even hung at a bar occassionally together so I've had some interactions with him and I can say that he was one of the nicest guys I ever met that played for SU, he was also dumb as a doornob and didn't really give a sh!t because he knew he was getting paid.