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Photo of Dick Vermeil

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Year Age Tm G W L T W-L% G plyf W plyf L plyf Notes
15 y 15 y   229 120 109 0 .524 11 6 5  
7 yr 7 yr PHI 101 54 47 0 .535 7 3 4  
5 yr 5 yr KAN 80 44 36 0 .550 1 0 1  
3 yr 3 yr STL 48 22 26 0 .458 3 3

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1976 40 Philadelphia Eagles 14 4 10 0 .286        
1977 41 Philadelphia Eagles 14 5 9 0 .357        
1978 42 Philadelphia Eagles 16 9 7 0 .563 1 0 1  
1979 43 Philadelphia Eagles 16 11 5 0 .688 2 1 1  
1980 44 Philadelphia Eagles 16 12 4 0 .750 3 2 1 NFC Champions
1981 45 Philadelphia Eagles 16 10 6 0 .625 1 0 1  
1982 46 Philadelphia Eagles 9 3 6 0 .333        
1997 61 St. Louis Rams 16 5 11 0 .313        
1998 62 St. Louis Rams 16 4 12 0 .250        
1999 63 St. Louis Rams 16 13 3 0 .813 3 3 0 Super Bowl Champions
2001 65 Kansas City Chiefs 16 6 10 0 .375        
2002 66 Kansas City Chiefs 16 8 8 0 .500        
2003 67 Kansas City Chiefs 16 13 3 0 .813 1 0 1  
2004 68 Kansas City Chiefs 16 7 9 0 .438        
2005 69 Kansas City Chiefs 16 10 6 0 .625        

 

Photo of Bill Cowher

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Year Age Tm G W L T W-L% G plyf W plyf L plyf Notes
15 y 15 y   240 149 90 1 .623 21 12 9
1992 35 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 11 5 0 .688 1 0 1  
1993 36 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 9 7 0 .563 1 0 1  
1994 37 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 12 4 0 .750 2 1 1  
1995 38 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 11 5 0 .688 3 2 1 AFC Champions
1996 39 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 10 6 0 .625 2 1 1  
1997 40 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 11 5 0 .688 2 1 1  
1998 41 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 7 9 0 .438        
1999 42 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 6 10 0 .375        
2000 43 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 9 7 0 .563        
2001 44 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 13 3 0 .813 2 1 1  
2002 45 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 10 5 1 .656 2 1 1  
2003 46 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 6 10 0 .375        
2004 47 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 15 1 0 .938 2 1 1  
2005 48 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 11 5 0 .688 4 4 0 Super Bowl Champions
2006 49 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 8 8 0 .500        

 

If Cowher decides he really wants to come back, he'd be in a similar position as Vermeil with about 15 years away from coaching an NFL team while doing TV. I remember when Dick came back he surrounded himself with one of the most experience staffs ever. Soon as he hired Mike Martz to run his offense, they took off. Bill would need to hire a bright young offensive mind to coach Trevor, but go old school with offensive line, defense and special teams. 

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5 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

Photo of Dick Vermeil

                Play Play Play  
Year Age Tm G W L T W-L% G plyf W plyf L plyf Notes
15 y 15 y   229 120 109 0 .524 11 6 5  
7 yr 7 yr PHI 101 54 47 0 .535 7 3 4  
5 yr 5 yr KAN 80 44 36 0 .550 1 0 1  
3 yr 3 yr STL 48 22 26 0 .458 3 3

0

1976 40 Philadelphia Eagles 14 4 10 0 .286        
1977 41 Philadelphia Eagles 14 5 9 0 .357        
1978 42 Philadelphia Eagles 16 9 7 0 .563 1 0 1  
1979 43 Philadelphia Eagles 16 11 5 0 .688 2 1 1  
1980 44 Philadelphia Eagles 16 12 4 0 .750 3 2 1 NFC Champions
1981 45 Philadelphia Eagles 16 10 6 0 .625 1 0 1  
1982 46 Philadelphia Eagles 9 3 6 0 .333        
1997 61 St. Louis Rams 16 5 11 0 .313        
1998 62 St. Louis Rams 16 4 12 0 .250        
1999 63 St. Louis Rams 16 13 3 0 .813 3 3 0 Super Bowl Champions
2001 65 Kansas City Chiefs 16 6 10 0 .375        
2002 66 Kansas City Chiefs 16 8 8 0 .500        
2003 67 Kansas City Chiefs 16 13 3 0 .813 1 0 1  
2004 68 Kansas City Chiefs 16 7 9 0 .438        
2005 69 Kansas City Chiefs 16 10 6 0 .625        

 

Photo of Bill Cowher

                Play Play Play  
Year Age Tm G W L T W-L% G plyf W plyf L plyf Notes
15 y 15 y   240 149 90 1 .623 21 12 9
1992 35 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 11 5 0 .688 1 0 1  
1993 36 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 9 7 0 .563 1 0 1  
1994 37 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 12 4 0 .750 2 1 1  
1995 38 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 11 5 0 .688 3 2 1 AFC Champions
1996 39 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 10 6 0 .625 2 1 1  
1997 40 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 11 5 0 .688 2 1 1  
1998 41 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 7 9 0 .438        
1999 42 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 6 10 0 .375        
2000 43 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 9 7 0 .563        
2001 44 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 13 3 0 .813 2 1 1  
2002 45 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 10 5 1 .656 2 1 1  
2003 46 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 6 10 0 .375        
2004 47 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 15 1 0 .938 2 1 1  
2005 48 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 11 5 0 .688 4 4 0 Super Bowl Champions
2006 49 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 8 8 0 .500        

 

If Cowher decides he really wants to come back, he'd be in a similar position as Vermeil with about 15 years away from coaching an NFL team while doing TV. I remember when Dick came back he surrounded himself with one of the most experience staffs ever. Soon as he hired Mike Martz to run his offense, they took off. Bill would need to hire a bright young offensive mind to coach Trevor, but go old school with offensive line, defense and special teams. 

The only way this would work.

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I never loved Cowher as a coach (too conservative) but he’s the type of personality the franchise would need in order to shake everything up. The Jets organization is desperate for any sort of leadership. I just don’t see the Johnsons paying or agreeing to hand over control to a guy who will command it. It definitely should be considered though. After this season literally everything should be on the table. 

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4 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

I never loved Cowher as a coach (too conservative) but he’s the type of personality the franchise would need in order to shake everything up. The Jets organization is desperate for any sort of leadership. I just don’t see the Johnsons paying or agreeing to hand over control to a guy who will command it. It definitely should be considered though. After this season literally everything should be on the table. 

Except one thing. And I know you know what I'm referring to.?

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Cowher?  He retired in 2007.  That's the year Revis was drafted. Mangini was our coach. 

Thats the year the first IPhone came out. 

How old is he?  

I don't know guys. This seems a far cry from young forward thinking offensive mind.  No? 

 

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Just now, GREENBEAN said:

Cowher?  He retired in 2007.  That's the year Revis was drafted. Mangini was our coach. 

Thats the year the first IPhone came out. 

How old is he?  

I don't know guys. This seems a far cry from young forward thinking offensive mind.  No? 

 

Fair points. But the Jets getting this bad (and bad even for them) is entirely cultural/structural. The building needs a shake up. Just playing musical chairs with first time GM’s and hiring coordinators isn’t going to fix the Jets real problems. Cowher would bring some professionalism and credibility to a franchise that desperately needs it. You don’t go 0-16 because the play calling is bad or the players are just bad. It’s a lot deeper than that.

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1 minute ago, Matt39 said:

Fair points. But the Jets getting this bad (and bad even for them) is entirely cultural/structural. The building needs a shake up. Just playing musical chairs with first time GM’s and hiring coordinators isn’t going to fix the Jets real problems. Cowher would bring some professionalism and credibility to a franchise that desperately needs it. You don’t go 0-16 because the play calling is bad or the players are just bad. It’s a lot deeper than that.

Outside of the initial splash, Cowher would bring dust into the building.  Thats about it. The culture can easily be rectified with a legit coach like matt Campbell.  We don't need a washed up 

Cowher won one superbowl in his 15 years as a HC. If he was the HC of the jets he never would have been given 15 years.  I loved Cowher back in the day, but he's not a savior. He an old man with old antiquated ideas most likely. 

He's just a name people know. That's about it. 

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1 minute ago, GREENBEAN said:

Outside of the initial splash, Cowher would bring dust into the building.  Thats about it. The culture can easily be rectified with a legit coach like matt Campbell.  We don't need a washed up 

Cowher won one superbowl in his 15 years as a HC. If he was the HC of the jets he never would have been given 15 years.  I loved Cowher back in the day, but he's not a savior. He an old man with old antiquated ideas most likely. 

He's just a name people know. That's about it. 

If Campbell wants the job then yes. The Jets just cant hire another coordinator is what I’m saying. The need someone in charge who’s done it before.

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2 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

He's old and I would be worried about how committed he is...

But it would bring some respect and passion to the organization.  

Have to be careful it isn't just a money grab - but otherwise I'm in.

 

Cowher is 63.  Belichick is 68.  Pete Carroll is 69.  He's on the older side, but I wouldn't call him 'old'.

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I’ve always been against Cowher when people would always inevitably bring him up in the past when we had a HC vacancy.

But if he’s willing to bring in a young, up and coming offensive mind to run things on that side of the ball...then sure. Go for it.

He fits the figurehead mold that would change the culture and command respect as soon as he walks through the front door.

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2 hours ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

He hasn't coached in going on 15 years now and started off in a much different era than what the game has evolved into today. 

 

Exactly, the NFL has passed him by. Enough with hiring people that flourished in the past. Bring in a young gun, someone that is familiar with the NFL now.

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11 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said:

Outside of the initial splash, Cowher would bring dust into the building.  Thats about it. The culture can easily be rectified with a legit coach like matt Campbell.  We don't need a washed up 

Cowher won one superbowl in his 15 years as a HC. If he was the HC of the jets he never would have been given 15 years.  I loved Cowher back in the day, but he's not a savior. He an old man with old antiquated ideas most likely. 

He's just a name people know. That's about it. 

We are normally thinking the same way. Not on this one though. He hasn’t been sitting on a ranch in Montana - he’s still around the game and has witnessed the evolution of it. I also think he’s smart enough to delegate the right people to right position. He was smart enough to adapt to Kordell Stewart when he had him and later to run an offense that was best for Ben.

He would bring instant credibility and I feel could still relate to young players and install discipline at the same time. Sign me up.

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2 hours ago, KRL said:

I would consider Cowher but my main question is who are his coordinators?

He's been gone for a long time, if he's bringing in Tony Elliott (Clemson) as his

OC and Jim Leonhard (Wisconsin) as his DC I would be all for it

I think Tony is going to get too many college HC offers to come to the NFL and take an OC gig, although, maybe he wants to continue to work with Lawrence? idk.  Seems like a long shot to me.

 

On the other hand Jim Leonhard would be a really nice addition as DC, there are some really interesting DC candidates available for whoever coaches here.  

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2 hours ago, jgb said:

Jets need a Parcellian moment with this hire. The next HC needs to be a heat-seeking culture missile directly into the rear of this franchise. I remain skeptical that Johnsons will pay the $10M+ annual to get this type of coach or that they will agree not to micro-manage him (e.g., with Assistant hires). I'd take Cowher or Harbaugh as 1A and 1B.

If I'm betting today, my money is still on Bieniemy. Just seems to have "Jets" written all over him.

Let Cowher buy the groceries .

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I definitely won't complain if we bring in Cowher but, if we're going for a short-term HC (which I would assume Cowher would be), then we need to try bringing Urban Meyer in here first. 

If we're looking for a longer-term solution, I think Matt Campbell is probably our best option. 

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2 minutes ago, Chrebetfan80 said:

I think Tony is going to get too many college HC offers to come to the NFL and take an OC gig, although, maybe he wants to continue to work with Lawrence? idk.  Seems like a long shot to me.

 

On the other hand Jim Leonhard would be a really nice addition as DC, there are some really interesting DC candidates available for whoever coaches here.  

Which is why I'd love to hire Joe Brady and pair him up with one of the experienced DC's and make them Asst HC.  Gives Brady a Vet to lean on like when he was with Ensminger running LSU's offense. 

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Portion of what Boomer said this morning:

https://www.radio.com/wfan/sports/jets/could-bill-cowher-be-the-next-jets-head-coach-ask-boomer

Boomer did note that Cowher is 63 years old, but “he is a really fit 63 years old.”
“He was saying to me yesterday, he’s the one that told me the Jets job is going to be
really attractive, and they could hire whomever they want,” Boomer said, “and he told
me he loves Joe Douglas.”

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If Cowher comes back in a Parcells type situation where he stays for
3 years but has his handpicked successor on the staff it wouldn't be
a bad thing.  Remember that's what Parcells did except Belichick screwed
us

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The challenge would be putting a decent coaching staff together. He's been out of the game for so long, his "guys" that he trusts are scattered across the league and in the college ranks. 

Still would take him in a heartbeat because he is competent. 

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3 hours ago, Joejet said:

If he is fully engaged he would be my top choice. I’m just not sure that he has that coaching fire anymore.

I think it is tough for guys who have gotten fat and happy as TV commentators to come back and be as hungry as they were when they were young.  But he does have the resume.

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if you want a studio tv coach who hasn't seen the field since 98% of the league was in grade school, i'd rather have jimmy johnson, given the hypothetical choice.
harbaugh over either. i dont know the rest of current college HC's well enough to opine, but ok with that direction. don't want a guy who still has a flip phone and aol email.

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