jgb Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Icer said: Every Jets fan after the game: David Carr sucks, meanwhile he just threw for 200+ yds more than Darnold with more TD's and only 1 pick that bounced off his receivers hands Jets fans always grade Jets QBs on a curve. If Darnold was doing exactly what Baker was, we'd be screaming Super Bowl. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 The Jets are not winning a game. They dont do anything well. Coaching stinks. Offense stinks. Defense stinks. Special teams stink. This is a historically awful team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Sam might be the worst player on the offense. Three turnovers yesterday against a sleepy soft Raiders team. He is absolutely not a reason to be worried about the tank. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, genot said: Lenny Breau. Great fingerstyle jazz player. Not familiar with him. Will check him out on YouTube. Been listening to a lot of Pass, Peterson, and Henning lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 47 minutes ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: New England will be eliminated from the playoffs and Belidick will rest all his starters . OH THE PAIN !!!!! well there is no way an even angrier than usual (for missing the playoffs) bellichick is gong to let himself be the only coach an 1-15 team beats that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, Icer said: Every Jets fan after the game: David Carr sucks, meanwhile he just threw for 200+ yds more than Darnold with more TD's and only 1 pick that bounced off his receivers hands Wrong Carr brother lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Larz said: Bruh He didn’t crack 200 yards And, the Raiders didn’t have their safety Abrams and their CB Arnette left after the first play with a concussion. On the flipside, the Jets were rushing the ball so well there really wasn’t a huge need to pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonajetfan Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: People are still shocked or dont get that players play to win, try to win. Sam was nowhere as bad as he was two weeks ago, hes capable of playing s good game, it's football. Friggen Colt McCoy beat Seattle yesterday, his first win in 6 years Many people still fail to understand the dynamic that the players are loyal to an organization provided the organization is paying them. Their loyalty will immediately change once the paycheck comes from a different source. It is asinine for anyone to compare a fan perspective to that of the players. You are exactly correct that the players will always try to win because that paycheck depends on their performance, yet so many come up with the idea of the players tanking and could not be more incorrect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I was as big of a Sam Fan out there, bought the jersey and all. But he threw for 186 yards, 3 TTD, 1 INT, and 2 Fumbles. That should not be a good game for a Franchise QB. If Mahomes put up that performance the media would be all over how it was his first "bad" football game. I get it but considering how he played this season it was a good game for Sam. I can’t kill him for the fumbles. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DepressedJetsFan23 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, Jetmech said: I get it but considering how he played this season it was a good game for Sam. I can’t kill him for the fumbles. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah watching the fumbles it leans more towards blaming Mekhi so I do not want to blame him to much either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 hours ago, More Cowbell said: If Sam continues to play like this and we have seen him do it, we won't go 0-16. The pick was an amazing play by the DB. Yeah, Darnold could have placed it more outside but it was a catchable ball and the WR deserves some blame for not batting it down. The first strip sack was not Sams fault. Nobody hangs on to that ball. He has to get more protection. The second was all on Darnold. He needs to protect the ball in situations like that. His TD run was awesome. He looked like a RB bulling his way into the EZ. I saw Sam playing really well and making a lot of nice throws. If he gets into a groove now, we will win a game, possibly next week. The Seahawks D is not that good. Problem there is Wilson will most likely pick us apart but we should be able to score. Those hoping for a tank better hope Sam gets Covid and Flacco has to.play the rest of the way. If Sam plays like this the rest of the way, we will beat someone. You're delusional. Sam is part of the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Sam loves to play well when the pressure is off and the games don't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Ohhthepain said: We should have IRd sam while we had the chance and elevated Morgan This! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 hours ago, DepressedJetsFan23 said: I was as big of a Sam Fan out there, bought the jersey and all. But he threw for 186 yards, 3 TTD, 1 INT, and 2 Fumbles. That should not be a good game for a Franchise QB. If Mahomes put up that performance the media would be all over how it was his first "bad" football game. Mahomes lost to the Raiders in their first game and won 35-31 in the second and both games was 2 td's and a pick.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 35 minutes ago, Ken Schroy said: You're delusional. Sam is part of the tank. If he plays lim e he did yesterday the rest of the way, we will win at least 1 game. He was responsible for 3 TDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: If he plays lim e he did yesterday the rest of the way, we will win at least 1 game. He was responsible for 3 TDs. And 3 turnovers which led to 10 Raiders points, but whose counting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Adoni Beast said: I truly believe with a better coaching staff and upgraded roster that Sam will be a really good player, and I wouldn’t be upset keeping him with that expectation. However, in a year when we can possibly get Trevor Lawrence, there is no decision, and the inclusion of drafting this kid will only attract the best from coaching pool. You are right. That's why if we do not get the 1st pick it will be a toss up as to whether the Jets would take Fields at number 2 in place of Darnold. The asset aspect with Darnold is if he can net like a 2nd round pick and we then get to get a QB we draft on the rookie contract for the next 3-4 years(which is like half of what Darnold would cost in his 5th year, you may have to do it even if you take Fields or another one of the QBs that are touted to go high i.e Trask, Wilson, Lance, etc. that you can get even trading down a little. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, UnknownJetFan said: You are right. That's why if we do not get the 1st pick it will be a toss up as to whether the Jets would take Fields at number 2 in place of Darnold. The asset aspect with Darnold is if he can net like a 2nd round pick and we then get to get a QB we draft on the rookie contract for the next 3-4 years(which is like half of what Darnold would cost in his 5th year, you may have to do it even if you take Fields or another one of the QBs that are touted to go high i.e Trask, Wilson, Lance, etc. that you can get even trading down a little. Fields is damn good and can come in fresh and be built from the ground up. Darnold had bad tendencies that got exacerbated from poor coaching and roster. It’s a tough call. But what I saw from Darnold his rookie year was the ability to overcome his flaws. Bates fixed his mechanics up nicely, and stopped the fumbling problem. You also reset the rookie contact by selecting Fields. All in All, especially after seeing Tannehill perform...I’d trade the 2nd pick (Fields) which will most likely net you a future 1st rounder. The bigger question is, how will the next coach feel about Fields vs. Darnold. That’s sort of all that matters. NOT getting Trevor Lawrence after a season like 2020 is nothing short of agony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Larz said: Bruh He didn’t crack 200 yards And had 3 turnovers. Sam apologist are delusional at this point.. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 hours ago, More Cowbell said: If Sam continues to play like this and we have seen him do it, we won't go 0-16. The pick was an amazing play by the DB. Yeah, Darnold could have placed it more outside but it was a catchable ball and the WR deserves some blame for not batting it down. The first strip sack was not Sams fault. Nobody hangs on to that ball. He has to get more protection. The second was all on Darnold. He needs to protect the ball in situations like that. His TD run was awesome. He looked like a RB bulling his way into the EZ. I saw Sam playing really well and making a lot of nice throws. If he gets into a groove now, we will win a game, possibly next week. The Seahawks D is not that good. Problem there is Wilson will most likely pick us apart but we should be able to score. Those hoping for a tank better hope Sam gets Covid and Flacco has to.play the rest of the way. If Sam plays like this the rest of the way, we will beat someone. Lol Sam supporter. Wait, I should delete my post. After all you're not supposed to feed the trolls, right?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Every week its something new. This team is going 0-16. They are terrible. Terrible. lol. It's happening. Just sit back and relax. Maybe start looking for your Trevor Lawrence boner pants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 37 minutes ago, Icer said: And 3 turnovers which led to 10 Raiders points, but whose counting The team should have won. GW isn't around to call the worst defensive play I have ever seen in 50 years anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 hours ago, More Cowbell said: If Sam continues to play like this and we have seen him do it, we won't go 0-16. The pick was an amazing play by the DB. Yeah, Darnold could have placed it more outside but it was a catchable ball and the WR deserves some blame for not batting it down. The first strip sack was not Sams fault. Nobody hangs on to that ball. He has to get more protection. The second was all on Darnold. He needs to protect the ball in situations like that. His TD run was awesome. He looked like a RB bulling his way into the EZ. I saw Sam playing really well and making a lot of nice throws. If he gets into a groove now, we will win a game, possibly next week. The Seahawks D is not that good. Problem there is Wilson will most likely pick us apart but we should be able to score. Those hoping for a tank better hope Sam gets Covid and Flacco has to.play the rest of the way. If Sam plays like this the rest of the way, we will beat someone. Sam can’t even screw a hooker. He’s that damaged. Relax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DepressedJetsFan23 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Savage69 said: Mahomes lost to the Raiders in their first game and won 35-31 in the second and both games was 2 td's and a pick.. With a combined 688 passing yards... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jet2020 said: Sam can’t even screw a hooker. He’s that damaged. Relax. Yeah, let him keep scoring 3 TDs a game. I wouldn't count on Becton continuing to allow strip sacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Yeah, let him keep scoring 3 TDs a game. I wouldn't count on Becton continuing to allow strip sacks I wouldn’t count on this either. Sam has bad accuracy and no pocket presence. Not going to last long in this league unless he changes his last name to McCown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: Lol Sam supporter. Wait, I should delete my post. After all you're not supposed to feed the trolls, right?. You know Im not a troll. Sam has sucked for thebmost part bit things are different now. OL is giving him time, he has 3 legit WR's, and yesterday the team discovere d a running game. Can you name the last Jets RB to rush for 100? Im guessing Crowell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I still fear the Jets will find some way to screw this up, but Sam isn't a reason. The Jets are 0-8 with Sam this year and Flacco had a better game against the Pats than Sam has had all year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, More Cowbell said: You know Im not a troll. Sam has sucked for the most ppart but things are different now. OL is giving him time, he has 3 legit WR's, and yesterday the team discovere d a running game. Can you name the last Jets RB to rush for 100? Im guessing Crowell Sorry but Sam is a turnover machine with almost no awareness plus an inability to read a D pre-snap. I was a 2 year Sam supporter and now I'm not. Sad part is the actually played ok under Bowles but IMHO that ship has now sailed. And finally yes I know you're not a troll but I do enjoy a good turn of a phrase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: Sorry but Sam is a turnover machine with almost no awareness plus an inability to read a D pre-snap. I was a 2 year Sam supporter and now I'm not. Sad part is the actually played ok under Bowles but IMHO that ship has now sailed. And finally yes I know you're not a troll but I do enjoy a good turn of a phrase. I agree that Sams days on the Jets are numbered but the guy is just 23. He defintely needs off this team. I just don't think Lawrence will succeed here either . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinGreenNC Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jet2020 said: I wouldn’t count on this either. Sam has bad accuracy and no pocket presence. Not going to last long in this league unless he changes his last name to McCown. He is still seeing ghosts, he hasnt been the same since. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Augustiniak said: darnold can become a functional starter but he will likely always be a high turnover qb. that's ok, if you can offset it with enough tds. think of the farve model. you throw 3 tds and 3 picks, you can still win. throw 1 td and 3 picks, you lose. STFU Favre and Sam in same sentence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Icer said: He had as many turnovers as TD's and less than 200 yards passing while missing multiple open guys I'm not worried Berrios coming open right in front of him on 2nd strip sack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Larz said: Bruh He didn’t crack 200 yards The apologists are mentally ill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 It's more then Darnold. Over the last month or so the O has been playing much better. The OL has finally started to come together, after being strangers with no off season. The WR's are back, and playing well, plus yesterday the Jets had a good running game. Becton was the weak point in the OL, giving up 2 strip sacks. In all honesty I won't be stunned if the Jets go 2-2 in the last 4. I'm good with that. I'm not really seeing this huge gap between Lawrence, Fields, and Wilson the scribes are touting. This last Saturday was a good example. Lawrence was Meh, Fields played a very good, but conservative game. Wilson's game was one of the better games of the week, maybe season. He lost, but that 91 yard drive in 35 seconds was very impressive. Made a play with 7 seconds left in the game that was a super intelligent play. Problem for the team was they needed a 92 yard drive and only got 91. Great game 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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